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The major difference between the teachings of Jesus and the writings of Paul is audience. Jesus was teaching OT Jews and Paul NT saints. While both are equally authoritative, one deals primarily with the old covenant and the other the new. So naturally the messages will harmonize, but differ in their application.
The reason that many do not understand the place of the law today is they are making NT application of OT understanding.
The reason that many do not understand the place of the law today is they are making NT application of OT understanding.
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I believe you echo what I have posted-
The difficulty in comprehending the place of the law in the New Testament today stems from applying Old Testament law to contemporary situations based on a misunderstanding of its relevance within the New Covenant. Many mistakenly attempt to apply Old Testament law as if it were still binding in the same manner for Christians, failing to recognize the differences in the two testaments and the shift in focus from ceremonial and civil law to spiritual truths
. Conflicting interpretations arise due to varying perspectives on the continuity versus discontinuity of Old Testament law in relation to the New Testament, resulting in disagreement over which laws remain relevant and which ones have been superseded
To avoid this confusion, it is essential to approach the Bible holistically, allowing the explicit teachings of Scripture to govern the interpretation of less explicit passages
. This hermeneutical principle ensures that the Bible interprets itself, preventing interpretations that contradict the overall message of Scripture
. When considering the applicability of Old Testament law to modern Christians, it is crucial to examine whether the moral principles are universal or culturally bound, and whether they are reiterated in the New Testament.
Correct?
J.
The difficulty in comprehending the place of the law in the New Testament today stems from applying Old Testament law to contemporary situations based on a misunderstanding of its relevance within the New Covenant. Many mistakenly attempt to apply Old Testament law as if it were still binding in the same manner for Christians, failing to recognize the differences in the two testaments and the shift in focus from ceremonial and civil law to spiritual truths
. Conflicting interpretations arise due to varying perspectives on the continuity versus discontinuity of Old Testament law in relation to the New Testament, resulting in disagreement over which laws remain relevant and which ones have been superseded
To avoid this confusion, it is essential to approach the Bible holistically, allowing the explicit teachings of Scripture to govern the interpretation of less explicit passages
. This hermeneutical principle ensures that the Bible interprets itself, preventing interpretations that contradict the overall message of Scripture
. When considering the applicability of Old Testament law to modern Christians, it is crucial to examine whether the moral principles are universal or culturally bound, and whether they are reiterated in the New Testament.
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J.
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Shalom to you and family @Cameron143
Johann.
Johann.
And that's what you would knowingly be doing.
I'm not against you. I'm just not sure you understand why Jesus spoke one way and Paul another. Jesus is reinforcing the old covenant because His hearers are under that covenant. Paul is largely tasked to help NT saints understand the cross and the changes that brought about under the new covenant.
Perhaps an example will help. Before chips were put into automobiles, being a mechanic was relatively simple. But when chips were introduced everything changed. More training was required, new tools were needed, and new manuals written.
The cross, likewise, changed everything. Jesus reacquires the glory He set aside, has 2 new keys on His keychain...death and hell, and has ushered in a whole new humanity. We aren't infused with a chip, but the Holy Spirit. We possess the mind of Christ and the same power that raised Him from the dead is now at work in us. It's far more incredible than I believe you have come to know. And that's what I'm trying to share with you.
I'm not against you. I'm just not sure you understand why Jesus spoke one way and Paul another. Jesus is reinforcing the old covenant because His hearers are under that covenant. Paul is largely tasked to help NT saints understand the cross and the changes that brought about under the new covenant.
Perhaps an example will help. Before chips were put into automobiles, being a mechanic was relatively simple. But when chips were introduced everything changed. More training was required, new tools were needed, and new manuals written.
The cross, likewise, changed everything. Jesus reacquires the glory He set aside, has 2 new keys on His keychain...death and hell, and has ushered in a whole new humanity. We aren't infused with a chip, but the Holy Spirit. We possess the mind of Christ and the same power that raised Him from the dead is now at work in us. It's far more incredible than I believe you have come to know. And that's what I'm trying to share with you.
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Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14:6. Jesus didn't teach Old Covenant- He taught how to enter the narrow path back to Him- He died for our sins and lived as our example to follow 1 John 2:6 He is the Way- there is no other door.
Paul was a servant of Christ and never taught another gospel than what Christ taught. Jesus commissioned the apostles to observe everything He commanded. Mat 28:18-20 Paul never taught anything different, which is why we have a warning on Paul’s teachings 2 Peter 3:16
Paul was a servant of Christ and never taught another gospel than what Christ taught. Jesus commissioned the apostles to observe everything He commanded. Mat 28:18-20 Paul never taught anything different, which is why we have a warning on Paul’s teachings 2 Peter 3:16
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Amen--
Before Jesus' coming, the people of Israel were under the Old Covenant, which was based on the Law of Moses. Jesus' teachings, therefore, were primarily focused on reinforcing the Old Covenant and preparing the people for the coming of the Messiah. However, with the coming of Jesus and His death and resurrection, a new era was ushered in, and the Old Covenant was replaced by the New Covenant.
Paul's teachings were primarily focused on helping the early Christians understand the significance of the cross and the changes that came about under the New Covenant. The Holy Spirit was given to believers, and they were infused with the mind of Christ and the same power that raised Him from the dead. This new reality was far more incredible than what had been experienced under the Old Covenant.
In summary, the analogy of the introduction of chips in automobiles helps to illustrate the significant shift that occurred with the coming of Jesus and the establishment of the New Covenant. Jesus' teachings reinforced the Old Covenant, while Paul's teachings helped early Christians understand the significance of the cross and the changes that came about under the New Covenant. The Holy Spirit was given to believers, and they were infused with the mind of Christ and the same power that raised Him from the dead, ushering in a new era of spiritual reality.
Before Jesus' coming, the people of Israel were under the Old Covenant, which was based on the Law of Moses. Jesus' teachings, therefore, were primarily focused on reinforcing the Old Covenant and preparing the people for the coming of the Messiah. However, with the coming of Jesus and His death and resurrection, a new era was ushered in, and the Old Covenant was replaced by the New Covenant.
Paul's teachings were primarily focused on helping the early Christians understand the significance of the cross and the changes that came about under the New Covenant. The Holy Spirit was given to believers, and they were infused with the mind of Christ and the same power that raised Him from the dead. This new reality was far more incredible than what had been experienced under the Old Covenant.
In summary, the analogy of the introduction of chips in automobiles helps to illustrate the significant shift that occurred with the coming of Jesus and the establishment of the New Covenant. Jesus' teachings reinforced the Old Covenant, while Paul's teachings helped early Christians understand the significance of the cross and the changes that came about under the New Covenant. The Holy Spirit was given to believers, and they were infused with the mind of Christ and the same power that raised Him from the dead, ushering in a new era of spiritual reality.
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Can you spell obfuscation? You asked "Are Pauls' words not the words of Christ?" You answered your own question above: "... of course He didn't write them" You answered your own question ... correctly.
It has nothing to do with ignoring Paul and obeying Christ, which is something entirely different.
It has nothing to do with ignoring Paul and obeying Christ, which is something entirely different.
So many people misunderstand the New Covenant. It was established on better promises Heb 8:6, nothing that says new or better laws, it still has God’s law written in the hearts Heb 8:10 and still a sin to break Rom 7:7 breaking one we break them all James 2:10-12. Jesus is that better promise. His law is perfect for converting the soul Psa 19:7 as He is perfect and could not make an imperfect law that He personally wrote and spoke Exo 32:16 Exo 31:18 and is in His heavenly Temple Rev 11:19 as we will be judged by His perfect law James 2:10-12. We are the ones who are imperfect.
Sad when people teach we shouldn’t follow the teachings of Jesus after everything He has done for us. No wonder why so many people are confused.
Sad when people teach we shouldn’t follow the teachings of Jesus after everything He has done for us. No wonder why so many people are confused.
This is also changing the subject...
2 Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." So even though Paul originally wrote this about the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament), most people consider it to apply to the entire Bible.
2 Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." So even though Paul originally wrote this about the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament), most people consider it to apply to the entire Bible.
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