I have a question

[oyster67]

Paul does point out his apostolic authority several times

Yes, Paul does a fine job of bearing witness of himself.

Paul would not have dared to simply present his own ideas within those epistles

Paul as much as says he is doing this.

Paul, Barnabus, and Apollos were men. Jesus was God. The Gospellarians quoted the sayings of Jesus. Paul made some mistakes that needed correcting. Scripture is clear on this.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Oh my! I feel so dumb and foolish now.

I wasn't aware that you supported such a silly idea. The only reason people wish to do a word count is to make sure Paul does not come out as the leading writer of the NT books. They have an axe to grind, since nobody would sit down and start counting the words in the NT (other than a moron).

 

[Magenta]

Here are the epistles of Paul. Not "approximately 13" but exactly 14:

1. Romans
2. 1 Corinthians
3. 2 Corinthians
4. Galatians
5. Ephesians
6. Philippians
7. Colossians
8. 1 Thessalonians
9. 2 Thessalonians
10. 1 Timothy
11. 2 Timothy
12. Titus
13. Philemon
14. Hebrews

14/27 = 52%

Here are the other books:

1. Matthew
2. Mark
3. Luke
4. John
5. Acts
6. James
7. 1 Peter
8. 2 Peter
9. 1 John
10. 2 John
11. Jude
12. Revelation

12/27 = 48%

So which is greater? 52% or 48%? Paul wrote OVER HALF the NT by book count.

Book count is not volume. And Hebrews is generally considered of unknown authorship.

Do an experiment. Even a moron could figure this out:

Stack the books of Paul wrote beside all others.

Which pile is higher?

Not Paul's!

And that is volume, not book count.

 

[oyster67]

an axe to grind

A sword to sharpen!

a moron

A fool for Christ.

 

[oyster67]

Nehigh is just angry about the chicken dinner thing.

 

[Magenta]

Here's another experiment to determine volume.

Take 12 shots glasses. Fill with water.

Now take 6 tumblers. Fill with water.

Which has the greater volume?

The shot glasses, or the tumblers?

Nehemiah would say the shot glasses. LOL

 

[Cameron143]

I disagree somewhat.... there are several instances where Paul himself says basically... "this is my opinion, it is not law from God... it's strictly my opinion" It's all still scripture, but Paul himself makes a distinction....

He makes the distinction guided by the Spirit of God. He didn't know it was inspired, but it is recorded exactly as God wanted it recorded. It is God breathed. Paul was moved as God the Holy Spirit moved Him just as surely as every other writer of scripture.

 

[Cameron143]

Here's another experiment to determine volume.

Take 12 shots glasses. Fill with water.

Now take 6 tumblers. Fill with water.

Which has the greater volume?

The shot glasses, or the tumblers?

Nehemiah would say the shot glasses. LOL

I'm not sure which is fuller but I'm pretty sure which will empty quicker.

 

[Magenta]

I'm not sure which is fuller but I'm pretty sure which will empty quicker.

They are all full, but only those full of .. will say 12 ounces is greater in volume than 96 ounces.

(Based on a shot glass being 1 ounce, and a tumbler being 16 ounces in volume.)

 

[PaulThomson]

Paul wrote less than 30% of the NT.

It depends on whether you count pages or entire books. 14 books , or 15 books, 52% if one attributes Hebrews to Paul, out of 27 books. Did you ask what measure was being used?

 

[vassal]

I wasn't aware that you supported such a silly idea. The only reason people wish to do a word count is to make sure Paul does not come out as the leading writer of the NT books. They have an axe to grind, since nobody would sit down and start counting the words in the NT (other than a moron).

Nehemiah, I did not know there was a contest in the N.T. for who wrote the most volumes. I think only the truth matters, to use volumes is wrong as it is a lie to say Paul wrote about 50% of the N.T., this is simply not true, What I say is not an accusation at all but must people perpetuate this lie forever?

 

[YWPMI]

You want an answer? What you asked is not stated in the Bible. There is your answer.
...
There are many scriptures that deal with giving, give cheerfully, give to anyone that asks, give to the needy, etc.... but none of them state "do not ask what this money will be used for"....

Thank you! yes, THIS is closest to what I was looking for. THANK YOU! I thought I had seen something pertaining to it somewhere... I guess not.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Hi @YWPMI ,

Something just occurred to me when reading your exchange in the post above.

Depending on which version one reads, one could possibly come to different conclusions as to what that Luke 6:30 verse is saying.

Consider:

“Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back." - Lk6:30nasb


"Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again." - Lk6:30kjv


In the kjv, when zipping through a reading, one could conceivably and readily assume the second clause is like a restatement (with elaboration) of the first clause, and easily come to the conclusion that the giver (in the first clause) shouldn't "ask them again" ['ask them not again'] about what was "given" (to the one who'd "asked") in / from the first clause. The nasb I think reflects the distinction between these two clauses. The second clause not simply being a "restatement" (with further elaboration).

Hope that makes sense.