These two losers?

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SomeDisciple

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gb9 said:
manipulated is a better word than rigged.

the refs can " help" get a certain outcome..
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That's true. So can players when they're bought and paid for.
 
JTB

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gb9 said:
so, do you give any money to anything???

if you want it done, you go first.
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Uh, yeah.

I give to my church which has ongoing food support programs.

I give to our local food shelf, not just monetarily, but I also volunteer there every week.

I won't give beggars in the street money, but I will buy them a meal.

I also support homeless programs. And health care programs for the poor.

See, not all of us Christians are hypocritical.

How 'bout you???
 
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JTB said:
Uh, yeah.

I give to my church which has ongoing food support programs.

I give to our local food shelf, not just monetarily, but I also volunteer there every week.

I won't give beggars in the street money, but I will buy them a meal.

I also support homeless programs. And health care programs for the poor.

See, not all of us Christians are hypocritical.

How 'bout you???
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yes, i give to pretty much the same type things, my church, local and some national charities as well.
 
HeIsHere

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JTB said:
The Bible clearly says if you are able to work but choose not to, you don't get to eat. Or by extrapolation, have a roof over your head or get medical care. That's fair enough.

The Bible also clearly says that if someone is not able to work, it is up to us to take care of them.

Not everyone on gov't assistance is a lazy bum. Surprise surprise some of them are actually in need.

But you want to throw the babies out with the bathwater and starve them all.

Your heartless Christianity is in full view.
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I was referring to the secular world.

Where does the Bible or Jesus state it is up to the "state" "government" to care for those in need?
 
JTB

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HeIsHere said:
I was referring to the secular world.

Where does the Bible or Jesus state it is up to the "state" "government" to care for those in need?
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It doesn't explicitly state that.

The Bible DOES support the idea of "state" and "gov't" in the verses where it says God appoints rulers over us, and to render unto Caesar what is Caesars.

So then it falls to the purpose of gov't.

The intent of gov't is to provide communal services in cases where individual provisions are inefficient (not that gov't itself hasn't become horribly inefficient). It is also intended to fill the gap where individuals fail their charge to provide for the common welfare (again, not that gov't currently succeeds at it's intended purposes).
 
SomeDisciple

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JTB said:
The intent of gov't is to provide communal services in cases where individual provisions are inefficient (not that gov't itself hasn't become horribly inefficient). It is also intended to fill the gap where individuals fail their charge to provide for the common welfare (again, not that gov't currently succeeds at it's intended purposes).
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Biblically, the purpose of government is to fulfill man's requirements spoken by God to Noah after the flood in Genesis.

Handing off the work of the church to the state is why our country is such a catastrophe.
 
JTB

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SomeDisciple said:
Biblically, the purpose of government is to fulfill man's requirements spoken by God to Noah after the flood in Genesis.

Handing off the work of the church to the state is why our country is such a catastrophe.
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Very true ... but I would also say a lot of churches abandoned their work for the state to take care of.

Church work suffers the same fatal flaw as unfettered capitalism and the state ... human greed.
 
true_believer

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The evidence for Trump's deception and incompetency has been revealed for the whole world to see.
 
SomeDisciple

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true_believer said:
The evidence for Trump's deception and incompetency has been revealed for the whole world to
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This guy pulls one of DeSantis' US Navy Evals to "expose" DeSantis "secret Navy career" as an assistant urinalysis coordinator to mock DeSantis for doing a TOP GUN parody....

Liberals have no sense of humor.

On top of that, I'm pretty sure that it's required to have done something in the Urinalysis program at some point in your career to get promoted past LT...

It would be one thing if this guy was Joking around- but he's not... he's cherry picking facts to make up scandals; and using professionals to paint a picture of something that isn't there. He's lying.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
This guy pulls one of DeSantis' US Navy Evals to "expose" DeSantis "secret Navy career" as an assistant urinalysis coordinator to mock DeSantis for doing a TOP GUN parody....

Liberals have no sense of humor.

On top of that, I'm pretty sure that it's required to have done something in the Urinalysis program at some point in your career to get promoted past LT...

It would be one thing if this guy was Joking around- but he's not... he's cherry picking facts to make up scandals; and using professionals to paint a picture of something that isn't there. He's lying.
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He has a mental health professional to establish his claims.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
^^^Mainstream media can post all the fake polls they want- nobody's voting for Neocon Nikki.
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They are STILL sending me stuff for her campaign. I think I have two or... is it three mailers sitting on my desk? I'm going to have a little obnoxious fun.
 
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Of all the political forums out there, the OP goes out if his way to put this on a Christian based forum? Thumbs down
 
Stan_the_Man

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Well, all Christians can do really is either vote for the lesser of 2 evils which would be Trump... or, not vote
at all which is what I'm doing since I cannot vote for either of these scumbags with a clean conscience.
 
JTB

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Burn1986 said:
Of all the political forums out there, the OP goes out if his way to put this on a Christian based forum? Thumbs down
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Oh like this forum isn't FULL of political ideology?

SMH
 
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It’s inevitable I guess. Some people aren’t interested in spiritual things, but get on these forums anyway.
 
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