TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

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Jimbone

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Can you take what your saying and add some scriptures it would help me understand what your saying there a lot . I think basically you agree with everything I’ve said in other posts

alike this rant here

Mat. 24 is very very clear that ALL the things He just told them about would happen before that generation pasted, that not 1 stone of THAT temple would be standing on another. That the blood of all the saints would be on "Their heads", and when you see these things happen in "Jerusalem", even to His walk to the cross telling the women not to weep for Him, but to weep for THEIR children. Everything He says is to THEM. What's more than that it happen EXACTLY as He said it would.

( I fully agree and can wuote why you think that from ot prophecy )


If you'd read the text again without superimposing what you've ben told everything "really means", and just read the words for what they say, there's no way you get "future to us", or even that Jesus or the disciples are even talking about the end of the world in Mat. 24, they only discussing the coming end of the age.

you do t understand my position this is way off base
That's how I've been perceiving your (and his) posts... that you two basically have the same viewpoint (on when the events occurred/were fully fulfilled--70ad).

I don't know why @Jimbone responded to you as he did (as though you DISAGREE with his perspective on that), but my guess is that he hasn't been following your points in other past posts, and perhaps only skimmed reading that latest post of yours which he quoted and responded to (and thus mis-perceived what you were saying there, lol).


It happens. lol

= )
Yeah, I was rereading everything and I obviously got something wrong. I either misunderstood something, or responded to the wrong comment too quickly. I'm going back over everything now, but sorry for the confusion. As soon as I find out where I made the mistake I will reply back to at least share how/why I found myself so far off the rails here.
 

SabbathBlessing

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“Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.”
‭‭John‬ ‭2:19, 21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬



What was the man made temple for ?
Thats right, the earthy temple means nothing anymore it was left desolate due to disobedience. The veil being torn meant it was the end of the earthy temple system. Jesus does not minister from an earthy temple but from a heavenly Temple not built by human hands. Heb 8:1-5. After the earthy temple ended- it points to the heavenly Temple and in the old temple all the furniture in the courtyard and holy place has a greater meaning.

For example the alter where animals were sacrifice pointed to Jesus who is the Lamb of God who take the away the sin of the world John 1:9
The laver Exo 30:18 where the priests wash their hands and feet before entering represent baptism John 3:5
The seventh branch candle stick symbolizes Christ as the true light John 1:9 and Christ’s people to be a light to the world Mat 5:14-16 so sharing our faith
The alter of incense symbolizes prayers of the saints Rev 8:3-4
The table of shewbread - represents the Word of God- we are to live by every Word Mat 4:4
And all of the temple is surrounded by white linen which represents being covered in God’s righteousness and all of this leads to our sanctification and holiness which leads us to the Most Holy compartment of God’s Temple beneath the mercy seat was the ark of the covenant God’s footstool which contained the Ten Commandments Exo 25:21 Rev 11:19 which represents our overcoming the bondage of sin and purification in Christ- overcoming sin through Christ and our reconciliation Rev 22:14

His way is in the sanctuary Psalm 77:13 and it truly is the plan of salvation. The earthy temple ending never meant anything because God’s Heavenly Temple is much more Glorious not made with human hands. Heb 8:1-5 always symbolizing a much deeper meaning and the showing us the plan of salvation.
 

Jimbone

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Can you take what your saying and add some scriptures it would help me understand what your saying there a lot . I think basically you agree with everything I’ve said in other posts

alike this rant here

Mat. 24 is very very clear that ALL the things He just told them about would happen before that generation pasted, that not 1 stone of THAT temple would be standing on another. That the blood of all the saints would be on "Their heads", and when you see these things happen in "Jerusalem", even to His walk to the cross telling the women not to weep for Him, but to weep for THEIR children. Everything He says is to THEM. What's more than that it happen EXACTLY as He said it would.

( I fully agree and can wuote why you think that from ot prophecy )


If you'd read the text again without superimposing what you've ben told everything "really means", and just read the words for what they say, there's no way you get "future to us", or even that Jesus or the disciples are even talking about the end of the world in Mat. 24, they only discussing the coming end of the age.

you do t understand my position this is way off base
I was very off-base yesterday. Even after rereading everything the best I can guess was I was doing the exact same thing I have called others out for, superimposing an argument that you weren't making on top of the scripture used. I did not read it well nd just made myself look foolish. Sorry about that, it was all my misunderstanding and I didn't even realize who I was responding to until this morning rereading everything. I think it may be time for me to comment a little less, I apologize for causing nothing but confusion with this silliness. Was not my intention at all and is pretty embarrassing honestly.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yeah, I was rereading everything and I obviously got something wrong. I either misunderstood something, or responded to the wrong comment too quickly. I'm going back over everything now, but sorry for the confusion. As soon as I find out where I made the mistake I will reply back to at least share how/why I found myself so far off the rails here.
Hey brother you aren’t the only one who makes mistakes I’ve made plenty here to in the same vein so absolutely no worries it happens

relatively impressive how you handled that and a good example kudos
 

Pilgrimshope

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I was very off-base yesterday. Even after rereading everything the best I can guess was I was doing the exact same thing I have called others out for, superimposing an argument that you weren't making on top of the scripture used. I did not read it well nd just made myself look foolish. Sorry about that, it was all my misunderstanding and I didn't even realize who I was responding to until this morning rereading everything. I think it may be time for me to comment a little less, I apologize for causing nothing but confusion with this silliness. Was not my intention at all and is pretty embarrassing honestly.
It happens here brother most everyone has had that happen we get passionate about our beliefs absolutely no harm and no foul I’ve done the same throng more than one time
 

Pilgrimshope

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Thats right, the earthy temple means nothing anymore it was left desolate due to disobedience. The veil being torn meant it was the end of the earthy temple system. Jesus does not minister from an earthy temple but from a heavenly Temple not built by human hands. Heb 8:1-5. After the earthy temple ended- it points to the heavenly Temple and in the old temple all the furniture in the courtyard and holy place has a greater meaning.

For example the alter where animals were sacrifice pointed to Jesus who is the Lamb of God who take the away the sin of the world John 1:9
The laver Exo 30:18 where the priests wash their hands and feet before entering represent baptism John 3:5
The seventh branch candle stick symbolizes Christ as the true light John 1:9 and Christ’s people to be a light to the world Mat 5:14-16 so sharing our faith
The alter of incense symbolizes prayers of the saints Rev 8:3-4
The table of shewbread - represents the Word of God- we are to live by every Word Mat 4:4
And all of the temple is surrounded by white linen which represents being covered in God’s righteousness and all of this leads to our sanctification and holiness which leads us to the Most Holy compartment of God’s Temple beneath the mercy seat was the ark of the covenant God’s footstool which contained the Ten Commandments Exo 25:21 Rev 11:19 which represents our overcoming the bondage of sin and purification in Christ- overcoming sin through Christ and our reconciliation Rev 22:14

His way is in the sanctuary Psalm 77:13 and it truly is the plan of salvation. The earthy temple ending never meant anything because God’s Heavenly Temple is much more Glorious not made with human hands. Heb 8:1-5 always symbolizing a much deeper meaning and the showing us the plan of salvation.
what a great and informative post thanks for taking the time I’ll take a look the references also much appreciated
 

SabbathBlessing

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what a great and informative post thanks for taking the time I’ll take a look the references also much appreciated
It’s just scratching the surface on His sanctuary. It is an incredible study.

If interested, here is a lesson on it that will go over every little detail- its long- but worth it.

 

TMS

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There is no Earthly sanctuary
The Earthy temple has served it's purpose.

We are the temple of God.

The sanctuary is in heaven. Jesus is in Heaven. No Bible verse states that it will be here when Jesus comes.
 

TMS

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It’s just scratching the surface on His sanctuary. It is an incredible study.

If interested, here is a lesson on it that will go over every little detail- its long- but worth it.

I haven't seen all of them, but the series are worth watching. If you want to know more about the sanctuary, highly recommended