The evil rapture and the evil evangelists. 👍

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CS1

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Thunderrr-mental said:
in asking can you you have perfect evangelism 24/7 from a single person.

So I'm asking you this question on the bases of evangelism beging something, when a child of God expresses his views about the Gospel.

Does it make him evil if he slips up
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I am not sure what you mean. sorry.

you asked, "Can you you have perfect evangelism 24/7 from a single person. " The Gospel message of Jesus Christ is the power of God.
Therefore it is perfect at any time day or night 24/7 When a Christian proclaims it.

This may become a shock to you and others, but Proclaiming the gospel doesn't save you. It is possible for one to evangelize, hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and get saved from a person whom they themselves may not be saved. The word of God is not without effect.
This is why Jesus will say to many, "I never knew you ."
 
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CS1 said:
I am not sure what you mean. sorry.

you asked, "Can you you have perfect evangelism 24/7 from a single person. " The Gospel message of Jesus Christ is the power of God.
Therefore it is perfect at any time day or night 24/7 When a Christian proclaims it.

This may become a shock to you and others, but Proclaiming the gospel doesn't save you. It is possible for one to evangelize, hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and get saved from a person whom they themselves may not be saved. The word of God is not without effect.
This is why Jesus will say to many, "I never knew you ."
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what im talking about is believers in God who believe they are Evangelizing for God.

But what they believe is based on a doctrine that may not be be true.

Who is evil the person or the doctrine.

And where may that doctrine have come from
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
what im talking about is believers in God who believe they are Evangelizing for God.

But what they believe is based on a doctrine that may not be be true.

Who is evil the person or the doctrine.

And where may that doctrine have come from
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Ok,

First off, we must ask ourselves some questions pertaining to the doctrine of teaching and what is a Foundatuional truth essential to the faith. What I mean by essential is if any of it is found to not be true, our faith is vain.

Such as :

  1. The death, burial, and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ
  2. Virgin birth
  3. the Word of God
  4. The Deity of Christ
  5. Salvation by Grace


Non-essential: meaning if one doesn't hold to them are not an issue of salvation:

  1. Rapture
  2. pretrib or post or mid
  3. speaking in tongues
  4. gifts of the Holy Spirit are or not for today 1cor chapter 12-14.
Anyone who denies Jesus Christ as God can not be saved. Therefore their message is without power.
Anyone can preach in a Jesus they don't believe in and quote the word of God correctly and still not be saved.

You would have to provide me with a specific evil doctrine that one is preaching that would make them evil.
 
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CS1 said:
Ok,

First off, we must ask ourselves some questions pertaining to the doctrine of teaching and what is a Foundatuional truth essential to the faith. What I mean by essential is if any of it is found to not be true, our faith is vain.

Such as :

  1. The death, burial, and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ
  2. Virgin birth
  3. the Word of God
  4. The Deity of Christ
  5. Salvation by Grace


Non-essential: meaning if one doesn't hold to them are not an issue of salvation:

  1. Rapture
  2. pretrib or post or mid
  3. speaking in tongues
  4. gifts of the Holy Spirit are or not for today 1cor chapter 12-14.
Anyone who denies Jesus Christ as God can not be saved. Therefore their message is without power.
Anyone can preach in a Jesus they don't believe in and quote the word of God correctly and still not be saved.

You would have to provide me with a specific evil doctrine that one is preaching that would make them evil.
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Correct 😊

Good ok, The evil doctrine, so John Hague preaches this.

John Hague preaches God will bless those who bless Isreal.

And God will curse those who curse Isreal.

So all Christian then feal the need to support the Jews no matter what.

This is based on a verse of the begining of genesis, and this is just when Isreal was only a time of Jews.

John Hague then preaches Jerusalem belongs to Jews only, he then preaches God sent Hitler to bring the Jews home.

He has also gained Isreal billions of pounds in donations, who have used there money to shrink the Christian population in Bethlehem and Jerusalem by building houses on occupied land of Christians.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Correct 😊

Good ok, The evil doctrine, so John Hague preaches this.

John Hague preaches God will bless those who bless Isreal.

And God will curse those who curse Isreal.

So all Christian then feal the need to support the Jews no matter what.

This is based on a verse of the begining of genesis, and this is just when Isreal was only a time of Jews.

John Hague then preaches Jerusalem belongs to Jews only, he then preaches God sent Hitler to bring the Jews home.

He has also gained Isreal billions of pounds in donations, who have used there money to shrink the Christian population in Bethlehem and Jerusalem by building houses on occupied land of Christians.
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First off what is the word of God and what is opinionated?


The word of God says God speaking to AbraM

Genesis 12:2-3

I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

There is a blessing when you bless the People of God who are the Jews in the location of Israel.

Jesus is coming back to Israel. God is going to pour out HIS wrath on those people in judgement and on everyone else too.

We are to pray for the peace of Jerusalem in scripture. John Hagee will answer to God for what he does with any money as will you and I. I support Israel. Yet I do not condone homosexuality, raves, and paganism to which many are very seculars and atheist.

FYI they sound like the Jews in the Bible in the old Testaments " these stiffed necked people. "


Yet God loves them then did he not? as he loves them today. John Hagee is a conservative pastor and supporter of Israel.
I do not agree with all he teaches nor am I a follower of him. If you take away all the youtube photo opted videos and read and speak to those in San Antonio they don't have much bad let alone evil to say of him. I leave him in the hand of the Lord and I look in the mirror.

Just me.

as far as the Christian population shrinking LOL Hello we are in the last days Jesus said they would hate you as they hated HIM.

look up our Redemption draws near
 
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CS1 said:
First off what is the word of God and what is opinionated?


The word of God says God speaking to AbraM

Genesis 12:2-3

I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

There is a blessing when you bless the People of God who are the Jews in the location of Israel.

Jesus is coming back to Israel. God is going to pour out HIS wrath on those people in judgement and on everyone else too.

We are to pray for the peace of Jerusalem in scripture. John Hagee will answer to God for what he does with any money as will you and I. I support Israel. Yet I do not condone homosexuality, raves, and paganism to which many are very seculars and atheist.

FYI they sound like the Jews in the Bible in the old Testaments " these stiffed necked people. "


Yet God loves them then did he not? as he loves them today. John Hagee is a conservative pastor and supporter of Israel.
I do not agree with all he teaches nor am I a follower of him. If you take away all the youtube photo opted videos and read and speak to those in San Antonio they don't have much bad let alone evil to say of him. I leave him in the hand of the Lord and I look in the mirror.

Just me.

as far as the Christian population shrinking LOL Hello we are in the last days Jesus said they would hate you as they hated HIM.

look up our Redemption draws near
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Some good points, 😊

The way in which the video is reported, is suggesting that we should be blessing Isreal the holy people, and we should not curse those holy people.

Also it speaks of Isreal being a holy nation that is for the saved people Of God.

But what the video is suggesting is, that is not what's happening today.

What the video claims is Isreal the Jews is using that scripture for political gain, and using it for the Jews only, when it should be used for Isreal the lambs of Christ.

Whilst blessing Isreal the holy Christian and not cursing Isreal the holy nation is a good thing and not evil.

Blessing the Jews to kill people is.

This is what John Hague has promoted and why he known as an Zionist evangelist, doing the devils work.

He has promoted Christians to bless the Jews to kill innocent people.
 
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GRACE_ambassador said:
op: evil rapture?

Precious friend, not found in my Bible, God's Word Of Truth!
It Is A Wonderful And Comforting Great GRACE Departure!

What is evil is all "the vile communication" surrounding what
should be kind, respectful, and fruitful discussions about it.

May God Help us.

Amen.
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evil rapture means Muslims leaving everyone behind 😊 easy peasy
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
what gift are you talking about.

Are you talking about the gift that is given

Or The gift that is taken 🤔
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You want us to believe that you have not called evangelists evil, yet the Title of your OP proves you speak with a forked tongue. Have no idea what church group you associate with, but you clearly have a carnal understanding of Scripture. I say this based on the comments you have posted here.

Of course there are people who use the Ministry for their own purposes, but these are few. The vast majority of people who have dedicated their lives to the Ministry are good, God fearing servants of Christ. As are the Evangelist who you call "evil".

IF you are only speaking of one particular person, you should have said so in the Title, rather than the general condemnation of Evangelists.

IMO, you are a troubling spirit here on CC,
 
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Thank you for the "thumb down". I consider each you give me to be another jewel in the crown I will receive one day soon.
 
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