TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

[Thunderrr-mental]

And I don't suppose this is happening now too either is it 🤔

No let me guess where all idiots for believing this is happening now right 👍



Daniel 8:23-25

New International Version



23 “In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise. 24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

 

[douggg]

You won't accept the great tribulation started after christ

In Matthew 24:14 the gospel of the kingdom will preached throughout the whole world and then the end will come - when the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet will be standing in the holy place.

The great tribulation does not be begin before then. Matthew 24:15-21.

Work on your timeline of end times events. To take place soon.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

In Matthew 24:14 the gospel of the kingdom will preached throughout the whole world and then the end will come - when the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet will be standing in the holy place.

The great tribulation does not be begin before then. Matthew 24:15-21.

Work on your timeline of end times events. To take place soon.

the great tribulation gets greater that's all

The cross is the great tribulation for all.

 

[douggg]

And I don't suppose this is happening now too either is it 🤔

No let me guess where all idiots for believing this is happening now right 👍



Daniel 8:23-25

New International Version



23 “In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise. 24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

Could you please leave off the sarcasm and communicate more clearly what your point is ?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Could you please leave off the sarcasm and communicate more clearly what your point is ?

is this happening right now

Daniel 8:23-25

New International Version



23 “In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise. 24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

 

[douggg]

the great tribulation gets greater that's all

The cross is the great tribulation for all.

It appears you use the NIV. I use the kjv. It does not say in the kjv - greater great tribulation. What does the NIV say for Matthew 24:21 ?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Could you please leave off the sarcasm and communicate more clearly what your point is ?

is the cross a great tribulation

 

[douggg]

is this happening right now

Daniel 8:23-25

New International Version



23 “In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise. 24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

Events are not quite at that point yet. But it is talking about near the end of the EU, the little horn person emerge.

To put a timeframe on it in terms of calendar years - that person will emerge some time between now and the end of 2030.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Events are not quite at that point yet. But it is talking about near the end of the EU, the little horn person emerge.

To put a timeframe on it in terms of calendar years - that person will emerge some time between now and the end of 2030.

well thanks for your view.


Jesus was not speaking to his disciples in Mathew either then or that generation, no you where there right and you witnessed the anti Christ you can't even identify now

And dont teach your granny to suck eggs about your own sarcasim in this thread before you teach mine

 

[douggg]

is the cross a great tribulation

Biblically speaking, Jesus's death on the cross made atonement for our sins. And with His resurrection, if we believe on Him, is the gospel of Salvation, by which we have eternal life. Which also, Jesus sent the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, to be present within our soul forever, even should be absent from the body.

If you imply by your question that the cross is a great tribulation - please reference biblical passage(s) to support your implication.

 

[douggg]

Jesus was not speaking to his disciples in Mathew either then or that generation, no you where there right and you witnessed the anti Christ you can't even identify now

And dont teach your granny to suck eggs about your own sarcasim in this thread before you teach mine

I don't understand what you wrote in your first sentence.

There is no reason for your last sentence, which also is not understandable to me. I have not addressed you with similar statements, have I ?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Here you go @cameron 😊 hope you enjoy

Billy Graham comfirms an end of an age is coming

 

[Cameron143]

Cameron, "spiritual Israel" is not a biblical term.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=spiritual+Israel&bsec=&order=0&s=1

Neither is Trinity or Rapture. Cartoons aren't real characters. Grape soda isn't made from grapes.
Do you understand what I mean when I use the term?

 

[Cameron143]

930 .

Technically you are correct and thanks. But I was merely pointing out the greater life expectancy when the effects of sin were not as great.

 

[Cameron143]

Here you go @cameron 😊 hope you enjoy

Billy Graham comfirms an end of an age is coming

Billy was used of God tremendously. That doesn't mean all his doctrine was correct.

 

[Cameron143]

By now it should be abundantly clear that Cameron's fantasies have nothing to do with Biblical reality.

And the vast compendium of the biblical writings extant pertaining to prophecy simply doesn't register either when you are living in your own fantasy world.

Somebody tell him "it's all good" and "and except those days should be shortened there should no flesh be saved" have nothing whatsoever in common.

Those days were shortened. History records it. There was a Roman seige of Jerusalem. Roman was left defenseless and the seige was halted midway through and continued again later.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Billy was used of God tremendously. That doesn't mean all his doctrine was correct.

when Jesus said there's words he said for everyone



Luke 9:62

New International Version



62 Jesus replied, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.”

He was reminding everyone of sodom not just one person but everyone

Sodom is happening all over the world
And the lords cross which is here judges all.

The great tribulation is for all people and all will face it in there life time.

The great tribulation is the cross.

 

[Cameron143]

No one. But this is being denied....The literal Kingdom. And the disciples will help with the judgement of Israel.
Luke 22:29–30
29 and just as My Father has granted Me a kingdom, I grant you
30 that you may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Were the Apostles able to bind and loose men's sins? Isn't that judgment? Isn't that literal?

 

[Cameron143]

In Matthew 24:14 the gospel of the kingdom will preached throughout the whole world and then the end will come - when the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet will be standing in the holy place.

The great tribulation does not be begin before then. Matthew 24:15-21.

Work on your timeline of end times events. To take place soon.

Luke 21:20...when Jerusalem is surrounded by armies, that's how you know the desolation is near. If only we knew of a time when Jerusalem was surrounded. Hmmm.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

^ "the desolation thereof" is part of the plural "desolationS are determined" that Dan9:26c speaks of (and which took place "BEFORE" the beginning of birth pangs, per v.12, i.e. in the events surrounding 70ad [vv.12-24a,b]); whereas "the abomination of desolation [singular, singular]" (Matt24:15 [/ Dan12:11]) takes place AFTER those "beginning of birth pangs."