No, the earth is not flat.

[Gideon300]

So what? More "proof" of ball-Earth by seeing it on a television? NASA have been lying this way since the 60s. If Earth were a ball, we'd be able to measure the curvature. That we can't is telling.

Exactly. The Lamestream has been forced to admit in recent times that we have been right about pretty much everything (and/or where they still haven't, their lies conflict with direct, publicly-available evidence of the opposite). The Earth being flat is just another string to our bow.

Right about everything? You should get some help. You are wrong about everything to do with the earth. You are deluded. Have you seen Jesus walking on the water? Were you there when He raised Lazarus? No. You rely on eye witness accounts. So do I. I have seen the curvature of the earth and my knowledge of radar confirms the evidence of my eyes. Countless others can testify to the same thing. You reject the testimony of those who have seen the earth from space. And so on............ So how do you know that the Bible is true? If you apply the same logic, then the Bible cannot be proved. This is the same Bible that you falsely claim says that the earth is flat.

One day, you will see the absurdity of your FE beliefs. You will wonder how you could be so self-deceived. In the meantime, you are a source of both entertainment and exasperation for people like me.

By the way, measuring the curvature has been done already. It's about 8" per mile. Ah, but never let mere facts get in the way of your delusion.

 

[Gideon300]

One of the smartest people I know and can debate anyone with memorized scripture on the difference between law and grace believes the world Is flat. S M H

So what? Have you ever seen the movie "A beautiful mind"? It's about a genius who lives in a fantasy world. It's based on a real person, John Nash, who won the Nobel prize in Economics. He was also diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. Being intelligent does not make you right about everything. Being not so clever does not make you wrong about everything.

 

[Underwhosewings]

Isaiah 40:22 KJV
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

 

[Underwhosewings]

Revelation 9:1 KJV
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

It’s bottomless because it’s round.

 

[gb9]

Revelation 9:1 KJV
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

It’s bottomless because it’s round.

interesting point!

 

[Moses_Young]

Right about everything? You should get some help. You are wrong about everything to do with the earth. You are deluded. Have you seen Jesus walking on the water? Were you there when He raised Lazarus? No. You rely on eye witness accounts. So do I. I have seen the curvature of the earth and my knowledge of radar confirms the evidence of my eyes. Countless others can testify to the same thing. You reject the testimony of those who have seen the earth from space. And so on............ So how do you know that the Bible is true? If you apply the same logic, then the Bible cannot be proved. This is the same Bible that you falsely claim says that the earth is flat.

When you say you have seen the curvature of the Earth, you invalidate your own testimony. Many of the more astute Heliocentrists will admit that even if Earth were a ball as they claim, the curvature would not be visible from here on Earth (or a plane). Discernment is what is used to separate fact from fiction.

I've already demonstrated to you in other threads on multiple occasions that if radar proves anything, it proves Earth is flat.

One day, you will see the absurdity of your FE beliefs. You will wonder how you could be so self-deceived. In the meantime, you are a source of both entertainment and exasperation for people like me.

On the contrary, you are the one who is deceived. I draw your attention to the simple mathematical error you made below, and also your confusion of theory with observation.

By the way, measuring the curvature has been done already. It's about 8" per mile. Ah, but never let mere facts get in the way of your delusion.

If you really believed the curvature of the Earth is 8" per mile, you would be a Flat Earther like me. In order to obtain curvature, the measured perpendicular deviation of the Earth from a horizontal tangent must vary with distance to an exponent other than 1 (or 0).

I think you meant to say you believe the Earth's curvature has been measured about 8" per mile squared. Which is ironic, as the curvature has never been measured, although 8" per mile squared is an approximation of what should be measurable, were Earth a giant ball as Heliocentrists claim. It is because of the fact that the Earth's curvature has never been measured, and that other scientific observations do not match up with Heliocentric theory, that Flat Earthers like me exist.

Unfortunately, you will need to have a slightly improved understanding of mathematics and science if you ever hope to use these to overcome your Heliocentric brainwashing. Or you could just believe the eyes God gave you.

 

[Moses_Young]

Revelation 9:1 KJV
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

It’s bottomless because it’s round.

I presume you mean round like a plate, rather than round like a ball, because of your previous post. But how does being bottomless have anything to do with being round (or even spherical)?

 

[Underwhosewings]

Ephesians 4:9-10 KJV
(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

[10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

 

[Underwhosewings]

I presume you mean round like a plate, rather than round like a ball, because of your previous post. But how does being bottomless have anything to do with being round (or even spherical)?

It reads “bottomless pit”
And a pit is a large hole.
So I would be inclined to think of earth being a spherical shape rather than a cube.

 

[Underwhosewings]

I presume you mean round like a plate, rather than round like a ball, because of your previous post. But how does being bottomless have anything to do with being round (or even spherical)?

This one seems to be spherical also

Amos 9:2 KJV
Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:

 

[Underwhosewings]

Ephesians 4:9-10 KJV
(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

[10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

“Lower parts of the earth”
Sounds very spherical

 

[ZNP]

It reads “bottomless pit”
And a pit is a large hole.
So I would be inclined to think of earth being a spherical shape rather than a cube.

That makes no sense, if the earth were a sphere and there is a pit in the earth it couldn't be "bottomless". If it were bottomless then the Earth is a donut, not a sphere.

The term bottomless suggests (to me) a portal to another dimension.

 

[GaryA]

Revelation 9:1 KJV
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

It’s bottomless because it’s round.

It is bottomless because it does not have a bottom.

It reads “bottomless pit”
And a pit is a large hole.
So I would be inclined to think of earth being a spherical shape rather than a cube.

A [bottomless] pit may be any shape - including 'round' - but, not 'spherical'.

This one seems to be spherical also

Amos 9:2 KJV
Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:

“Lower parts of the earth”
Sounds very spherical

Sounds very 'lower' - no shape indicated.

 

[Gideon300]

When you say you have seen the curvature of the Earth, you invalidate your own testimony. Many of the more astute Heliocentrists will admit that even if Earth were a ball as they claim, the curvature would not be visible from here on Earth (or a plane). Discernment is what is used to separate fact from fiction.

I've already demonstrated to you in other threads on multiple occasions that if radar proves anything, it proves Earth is flat.

On the contrary, you are the one who is deceived. I draw your attention to the simple mathematical error you made below, and also your confusion of theory with observation.

If you really believed the curvature of the Earth is 8" per mile, you would be a Flat Earther like me. In order to obtain curvature, the measured perpendicular deviation of the Earth from a horizontal tangent must vary with distance to an exponent other than 1 (or 0).

I think you meant to say you believe the Earth's curvature has been measured about 8" per mile squared. Which is ironic, as the curvature has never been measured, although 8" per mile squared is an approximation of what should be measurable, were Earth a giant ball as Heliocentrists claim. It is because of the fact that the Earth's curvature has never been measured, and that other scientific observations do not match up with Heliocentric theory, that Flat Earthers like me exist.

Unfortunately, you will need to have a slightly improved understanding of mathematics and science if you ever hope to use these to overcome your Heliocentric brainwashing. Or you could just believe the eyes God gave you.

1. The earth has been shown to be a globe of about 40,000 km circumference since about 300 BC
2. Curvature is clearly visible from heights that military aircraft fly at. Concord flew at about 60,000 feet. Passengers could clearly see the curvature of the earth. I've seen eye witness testimony
3. Yes, the rate of curve is a factor of the actual size of the earth.
4. I wish I knew why anyone with a modicum of intelligence can believe that the earth is flat.
5. You reject eye witness testimony. Concord flew 50,000 times with 2.5 million passengers. I don't know how many people flew more than once. There were about 100 passengers per flight. The flight crews also saw the curvature of the earth. And you call everyone of those people liars. God no more approves of slander than He does stealing or adultery. Yet you are content to slander born again believers who have witnessed personally the globe earth. And you do it without conscience. That I find shocking.
6. Ask yourself why this issue is so important to you. It's an obsession and not a healthy one.

 

[Gojira]

1. The earth has been shown to be a globe of about 40,000 km circumference since about 300 BC
2. Curvature is clearly visible from heights that military aircraft fly at. Concord flew at about 60,000 feet. Passengers could clearly see the curvature of the earth. I've seen eye witness testimony
3. Yes, the rate of curve is a factor of the actual size of the earth.
4. I wish I knew why anyone with a modicum of intelligence can believe that the earth is flat.
5. You reject eye witness testimony. Concord flew 50,000 times with 2.5 million passengers. I don't know how many people flew more than once. There were about 100 passengers per flight. The flight crews also saw the curvature of the earth. And you call everyone of those people liars. God no more approves of slander than He does stealing or adultery. Yet you are content to slander born again believers who have witnessed personally the globe earth. And you do it without conscience. That I find shocking.
6. Ask yourself why this issue is so important to you. It's an obsession and not a healthy one.

Dude, don't trouble yourself. I've been there and done that with these same guys here, and all it does is wind up wasting a tremendous amount of my personal time. If these FEers saw the planet from space, as a sphere, hanging on nothing but a gravitational string from the sun, they'd say it was a trick, a hologram, something put onto their portholes to perpetuate the "lie". If reality's not going to convince them, neither are you.

As Michael Harris on "Newhart" once said, "Let it go... forget about it... keep smiling!"

 

[Gideon300]

Dude, don't trouble yourself. I've been there and done that with these same guys here, and all it does is wind up wasting a tremendous amount of my personal time. If these FEers saw the planet from space, as a sphere, hanging on nothing but a gravitational string from the sun, they'd say it was a trick, a hologram, something put onto their portholes to perpetuate the "lie". If reality's not going to convince them, neither are you.

As Michael Harris on "Newhart" once said, "Let it go... forget about it... keep smiling!"

I only respond because from time to time someone who is easily misled comes to the forum. I reply to those who think that Saturday is the sabbath for the same reason. I don't expect to change the minds of sabbath keepers. I do hope to help those who may be uncertain in their own minds. I'm retired so i have a little more spare time than when I was working.

 

[Gojira]

I only respond because from time to time someone who is easily misled comes to the forum. I reply to those who think that Saturday is the sabbath for the same reason. I don't expect to change the minds of sabbath keepers. I do hope to help those who may be uncertain in their own minds. I'm retired so i have a little more spare time than when I was working.

Makes sense... sometimes I will try to keep the same thing in mind—someone on the fence may be persuaded.

 

[ZNP]

Makes sense... sometimes I will try to keep the same thing in mind—someone on the fence may be persuaded.

On the fence? Do you mean on the line, because in Flat Stanley's world there are no fences, only lines.

 

[Underwhosewings]

On the fence? Do you mean on the line, because in Flat Stanley's world there are no fences, only lines.

Haven’t you heard the latest!
There is a fence and it belongs to the Devil.

 

[tourist]

That makes no sense, if the earth were a sphere and there is a pit in the earth it couldn't be "bottomless". If it were bottomless then the Earth is a donut, not a sphere.

The term bottomless suggests (to me) a portal to another dimension.

Sort of like the Twilight Zone.