“Why did he say let the reader understand. if it was the people he spoke to? “
because he was speaking to people who had the prophets and read them daily the prophets and law is Israel’s national history and culture he was talking about daniels prophecy ….
“I take God at his word. When he says something would happen it will.”
Yeah we agree on that part it’s just that some won’t listen to what he’s said.
“So when you take literal prophecy and proclaim they will nto literally come true. Then no. You have noting for me..”
lol what part are you talking about ? The destruction of Jerusalem and its temple that happened 2000 years ago ? Is that what hasn’t happened yet or ? Maybe this part didn’t happen yet ?
“And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
Daniel 12:1-2
“and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
Matthew 27:52-53 KJV
“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
then let them which be in Judæa flee into the mountains: let him which is on the house top not come down to take any thing out of his house: neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
Matthew 24:15-21
that happened in 67-70 ad Jerusalem was besieged and destroyed by rome it’s temple eas destroyed and hasn’t been rebuilt in 2000 years
Im not even sure what you are claiming hasn’t happened yet lol
The temple being rebuilt by God ? Is that the one ?
“Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.”
John 2:19, 21 KJV
It seems like your waiting for isralites to build God a temple song is spirit can come and appear in the center of it maybe they could sacrifice bulls and goats again so they could be reminded of thier sins If they rebuilt a temple I suppose maybe they could annoy t some new levite preists that can’t atone for sin
He’s already in his temple
“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things,
as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
Hebrews 8:1-2, 4-6
your still looking at this world
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
John 18:36 KJV
But indeed this isnt for you your waiting for man to beyond a building but drastically missing the word of God
“Now therefore ye ( gentiles ) are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: in whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”
Ephesians 2:19-22 KJV
there’s no use for a temple God lives in us there’s no need for a temple on the new world we’re promised God himself will walk among us
again to be clear yes Gods word is true I think you don’t understand it is my position not that Gods word is wrong but your interpretation of it is wrong
God already raised up his temple he’s never going to return to earth and dwell in a building made of rock and layered with gold that was only ever a pattern til Jesus came forth with reality
Your looking at the world and Old Testament not the kingdom of God
“Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
… For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:”
Hebrews 9:1, 24 KJV
The temple tbey made was only a figure and pattern of the true temple in heaven it isn’t about the Old Testament anymore that’s all fulfilled
because he was speaking to people who had the prophets and read them daily the prophets and law is Israel’s national history and culture he was talking about daniels prophecy ….
“I take God at his word. When he says something would happen it will.”
Yeah we agree on that part it’s just that some won’t listen to what he’s said.
“So when you take literal prophecy and proclaim they will nto literally come true. Then no. You have noting for me..”
lol what part are you talking about ? The destruction of Jerusalem and its temple that happened 2000 years ago ? Is that what hasn’t happened yet or ? Maybe this part didn’t happen yet ?
“And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
Daniel 12:1-2
“and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
Matthew 27:52-53 KJV
“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
then let them which be in Judæa flee into the mountains: let him which is on the house top not come down to take any thing out of his house: neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”Matthew 24:15-21
that happened in 67-70 ad Jerusalem was besieged and destroyed by rome it’s temple eas destroyed and hasn’t been rebuilt in 2000 years
Im not even sure what you are claiming hasn’t happened yet lol
The temple being rebuilt by God ? Is that the one ?
“Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.”
John 2:19, 21 KJV
It seems like your waiting for isralites to build God a temple song is spirit can come and appear in the center of it maybe they could sacrifice bulls and goats again so they could be reminded of thier sins If they rebuilt a temple I suppose maybe they could annoy t some new levite preists that can’t atone for sin
He’s already in his temple
“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things,
as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
Hebrews 8:1-2, 4-6
your still looking at this world
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
John 18:36 KJV
But indeed this isnt for you your waiting for man to beyond a building but drastically missing the word of God
“Now therefore ye ( gentiles ) are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: in whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”
Ephesians 2:19-22 KJV
there’s no use for a temple God lives in us there’s no need for a temple on the new world we’re promised God himself will walk among us
again to be clear yes Gods word is true I think you don’t understand it is my position not that Gods word is wrong but your interpretation of it is wrong
God already raised up his temple he’s never going to return to earth and dwell in a building made of rock and layered with gold that was only ever a pattern til Jesus came forth with reality
Your looking at the world and Old Testament not the kingdom of God
“Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
… For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:”
Hebrews 9:1, 24 KJV
The temple tbey made was only a figure and pattern of the true temple in heaven it isn’t about the Old Testament anymore that’s all fulfilled
Can you answer a few of my questions here, as I cannot DM people.
1. Do you believe in a future earthly millenium followed by the new heaven and new earth and new Jerusalem?
2. Do you believe the millennium will feature animal sacrifices?
3. Do you believe the great tribulation is past or future?
4. Where do you believe we are on God's calendar? What are the signs to look for towards the end?
5. How do you see 2 Thessalonians 2:4? " He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."
