Did giants really exist?

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Did giants really exist?

Do you believe the children born to ancient giants, were human, or were they part demon and part human?

There are many opinions out there on that question, some claim the giants were the ancestors of Seth, the son of Noah. Others teach they were demons who took on the form of men and had inter-course with the daughters of men.

My question would be, have archeologist ever discovered or uncovered evidence that giants existed in our past?”

If so, who was the tallest male and female ever recorded in modern history.’ The tallest woman, Anna Haining Swan, a Canadian, was born on 8/6/1846. She reached the height of 7 feet, 11 inches. Robert Wadlow is said to be the tallest man ever recorded. Born in the United States, he was measured to be 8 feet, 11 inches. There have been reports of other taller people, but these were unverified.

Let’s talk about the finger of a man found in Egypt several years ago. The photo was taken in 1988 by Gregor Spoerri, a student of Egyptian history. Only now was the picture of the finger being made public. Gregor reported he had met a man who owned an oblong-shaped bag containing a man’s finger, so he asked the owner if he could take a few photos and also have the finger X-rays. The man agreed. The finger itself measured slightly under fifteen inches. They estimated the person it belonged to would have been at least sixteen feet, six inches tall. Spoerri tried to purchase the relic, but the man refused, saying, ‘It’s a family treasure.’ The x-ray proved beyond a doubt that it was a human finger.

A giant footprint was found in South Africa. The print was impressed in granite, one of the hardest rocks on earth, and measured slightly under four feet. No chisel marks were in or around the print, so it could only mean the footprint formed when someone walked there before the mud or dirt hardened. Whoever made this print would have had to be over twenty-seven feet tall.

Is it no wonder the men with Caleb said to Moses, “All the people that we saw in (the land) are men of great stature. We saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.” The whole thing seems impossible, doesn’t it?

In the Paiute Indian territory, there is a cave called Lovelock. Inside the caves were the remains of an eleven-foot-tall giant discovered in 1904 but only made known recently. In the caves and tunnels found in Death Valley, an explorer discovered the remains of a nine-foot-tall human skeleton.

In 2013, a heavy storm hit Ecuador. After the storm ended, in Aloah province, a female skeleton was unearthed. It measured seven feet four inches in height. Five others were buried in deep, elaborate graves in the same area, measuring between seven and eight feet. After closely examining a sixth skeleton, Austrian artifact researcher Klaus Dona and others concluded the man that belonged to that particular skeleton had to be twenty-five feet tall’.

So, it does appear the Bible is right when it speaks of giants on the earth? Numbers 13:33, ‘And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers.” Only the books of Genesis and Numbers speak of these giants called Nephilim. Genesis mentioned them before the flood and Numbers long after the flood.

Does this suggest a supernatural influence? Except for Noah and his family, every living creature and every human on earth died in the waters of the flood. We know natural causes or disasters cannot kill demons. These Nephilim may have shed their human flesh when the waters came and returned to the spirit world. But there is a second possibility; giantism may be in man’s D.N.A. Some outside influence may have triggered the giantism in one of Noah’s sons. If that so, it most likely was Noah’s son Ham.

1 Samuel 17:4, “And there went out a champion (among the Philistines) named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.”

There are 21.4 inches in a cubit and 9 inches in a span; this would have made Goliath almost 11 feet tall.”

Numbers 13:32, “All the people that we saw in (Canaan) are men of a great stature (size).”

Deuteronomy 3:11-12, “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bed was a bed of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? Nine cubits (15 ½ ft.) was the length thereof, and four cubits (6.4 ft.) the breath of it after the cubit of a man.”

2 Samuel 21:20. “There was a battle in Gath, where a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, --- and he was born to the giant.”

The Bible mentions people with six fingers and toes. Has there ever been any six-fingered or six-toed people found alive?’ There is a tribe in Ecuador today called the Waorani, where many in their tribe have six fingers and six toes. They are normal in size but exhibit these strange characteristics and are also violent to the extreme. In their preceding five generations, fifty percent of their deaths resulted from homicides; they also engaged in this continual but deadly internal vendetta. But medically, they have no trace of cancer, no cardiovascular disease, no high blood pressure, no allergies, and no known disease familiar to us.
 

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Did giants really exist?

Do you believe the children born to ancient giants, were human, or were they part demon and part human?

There are many opinions out there on that question, some claim the giants were the ancestors of Seth, the son of Noah. Others teach they were demons who took on the form of men and had inter-course with the daughters of men.

My question would be, have archeologist ever discovered or uncovered evidence that giants existed in our past?”

If so, who was the tallest male and female ever recorded in modern history.’ The tallest woman, Anna Haining Swan, a Canadian, was born on 8/6/1846. She reached the height of 7 feet, 11 inches. Robert Wadlow is said to be the tallest man ever recorded. Born in the United States, he was measured to be 8 feet, 11 inches. There have been reports of other taller people, but these were unverified.

Let’s talk about the finger of a man found in Egypt several years ago. The photo was taken in 1988 by Gregor Spoerri, a student of Egyptian history. Only now was the picture of the finger being made public. Gregor reported he had met a man who owned an oblong-shaped bag containing a man’s finger, so he asked the owner if he could take a few photos and also have the finger X-rays. The man agreed. The finger itself measured slightly under fifteen inches. They estimated the person it belonged to would have been at least sixteen feet, six inches tall. Spoerri tried to purchase the relic, but the man refused, saying, ‘It’s a family treasure.’ The x-ray proved beyond a doubt that it was a human finger.

A giant footprint was found in South Africa. The print was impressed in granite, one of the hardest rocks on earth, and measured slightly under four feet. No chisel marks were in or around the print, so it could only mean the footprint formed when someone walked there before the mud or dirt hardened. Whoever made this print would have had to be over twenty-seven feet tall.

Is it no wonder the men with Caleb said to Moses, “All the people that we saw in (the land) are men of great stature. We saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.” The whole thing seems impossible, doesn’t it?

In the Paiute Indian territory, there is a cave called Lovelock. Inside the caves were the remains of an eleven-foot-tall giant discovered in 1904 but only made known recently. In the caves and tunnels found in Death Valley, an explorer discovered the remains of a nine-foot-tall human skeleton.

In 2013, a heavy storm hit Ecuador. After the storm ended, in Aloah province, a female skeleton was unearthed. It measured seven feet four inches in height. Five others were buried in deep, elaborate graves in the same area, measuring between seven and eight feet. After closely examining a sixth skeleton, Austrian artifact researcher Klaus Dona and others concluded the man that belonged to that particular skeleton had to be twenty-five feet tall’.

So, it does appear the Bible is right when it speaks of giants on the earth? Numbers 13:33, ‘And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers.” Only the books of Genesis and Numbers speak of these giants called Nephilim. Genesis mentioned them before the flood and Numbers long after the flood.

Does this suggest a supernatural influence? Except for Noah and his family, every living creature and every human on earth died in the waters of the flood. We know natural causes or disasters cannot kill demons. These Nephilim may have shed their human flesh when the waters came and returned to the spirit world. But there is a second possibility; giantism may be in man’s D.N.A. Some outside influence may have triggered the giantism in one of Noah’s sons. If that so, it most likely was Noah’s son Ham.

1 Samuel 17:4, “And there went out a champion (among the Philistines) named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.”

There are 21.4 inches in a cubit and 9 inches in a span; this would have made Goliath almost 11 feet tall.”

Numbers 13:32, “All the people that we saw in (Canaan) are men of a great stature (size).”

Deuteronomy 3:11-12, “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bed was a bed of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? Nine cubits (15 ½ ft.) was the length thereof, and four cubits (6.4 ft.) the breath of it after the cubit of a man.”

2 Samuel 21:20. “There was a battle in Gath, where a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, --- and he was born to the giant.”

The Bible mentions people with six fingers and toes. Has there ever been any six-fingered or six-toed people found alive?’ There is a tribe in Ecuador today called the Waorani, where many in their tribe have six fingers and six toes. They are normal in size but exhibit these strange characteristics and are also violent to the extreme. In their preceding five generations, fifty percent of their deaths resulted from homicides; they also engaged in this continual but deadly internal vendetta. But medically, they have no trace of cancer, no cardiovascular disease, no high blood pressure, no allergies, and no known disease familiar to us.
Well, aside from the sensational.. you have descendants of Adam and Eve who were close to being perfect. The affects of sin through the generations wasn't as drastic for those who were in close lineage to Adam and Eve. Consider the things Adam was capable of doing. And later even Noah.. who could shepherd large amounts of large and small animals into an ark. Noah didn't have much help to do what he was doing as others thought he was crazy to be building the ark.

The cubit length in the bible.. was most likely bigger than the average cubit length now. With the elbow to hand measurement.

But I think you gotta be sober-minded with this. There are issues with alot of archeological finds in how they are reported.

Lucy, the skeleton found that was supposed be a 'missing link' and reported so in science magazines.. turned out to have been modified to look like a human skeleton.. and was mostly likely a regular chimpanzee.

Skeletons found of humans walking on the hands like chimpanzees.. turned out to be people living in an area where the population got affected by a disease that led to them walking on their hands, with deformed spines.

This is obviously about macro evolution and debunking it.. and not giants in the bible. What does the bible say about giants?

Goliath was very big.. but I can't imagine a mythical sized giant like in fairy stories.
 

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Well, aside from the sensational.. you have descendants of Adam and Eve who were close to being perfect. The affects of sin through the generations wasn't as drastic for those who were in close lineage to Adam and Eve. Consider the things Adam was capable of doing. And later even Noah.. who could shepherd large amounts of large and small animals into an ark. Noah didn't have much help to do what he was doing as others thought he was crazy to be building the ark.

The cubit length in the bible.. was most likely bigger than the average cubit length now. With the elbow to hand measurement.

But I think you gotta be sober-minded with this. There are issues with alot of archeological finds in how they are reported.

Lucy, the skeleton found that was supposed be a 'missing link' and reported so in science magazines.. turned out to have been modified to look like a human skeleton.. and was mostly likely a regular chimpanzee.

Skeletons found of humans walking on the hands like chimpanzees.. turned out to be people living in an area where the population got affected by a disease that led to them walking on their hands, with deformed spines.

This is obviously about macro evolution and debunking it.. and not giants in the bible. What does the bible say about giants?

Goliath was very big.. but I can't imagine a mythical sized giant like in fairy stories.
Agreed, Lucy was an absolute fraud as was the Piltdown man and others. When I was racing horses, I had the pleasure of meeting Wilt Chamberlin who was 7'1" I'm 5'10" and was impressed with the size of that man. The college basketball player for Purdue (I think) is 7'8". and has a seven-foot wingspan. If nothing else, it was fun researching the subject. Happy New Year.
 

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Did giants really exist?
Well, the bible says yes. Not only in the days of Noah, but also after that.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
 

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Gen 6~~
1Now it came about, when mankind began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were [a]beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not remain with man forever, [c]because he is also flesh; [d]nevertheless his days shall be 120 years.” 4The [e]Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of mankind, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Satan was trying to corrupt the seed. Jesus was destined to be true humanity, Satan was trying to "breed" true humanity out of the human race IMO.
 

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I think this subject touches on a doctrine that satan tries his best to blind us from. The angelic conflict/kingdom conflict and why God created the human race......our purpose on this planet.
 

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depends a bit on what you consider a giant.
 
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What does the Bible say? Seems to indicate there were giants. Should settle it...yes? no? (not really asking)
 
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Agreed, Lucy was an absolute fraud as was the Piltdown man and others. When I was racing horses, I had the pleasure of meeting Wilt Chamberlin who was 7'1" I'm 5'10" and was impressed with the size of that man. The college basketball player for Purdue (I think) is 7'8". and has a seven-foot wingspan. If nothing else, it was fun researching the subject. Happy New Year.
Just curious here...what kind of horses were you racing at 5'10?
 

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IMO the Nephilim were half breeds brought forth from angels and women and some were giants
 

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depends a bit on what you consider a giant.
Really? It is not a matter of opinion. And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. (1 Sam 17:4)

A cubit is estimated to be between 18 and 20 inches. Using 20 inches for a cubit here is how it works out: 20 x 6/12 = 120/12 = 10 feet. Assuming that a span is about 6 inches, Goliath was 10 feet and 6 inches tall.

If a man is about 6 1/2 feet he is considered to be very tall. And Goliath would have stood 4 feet above him!
 

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BUT the book of ENOCH says they were as big as gozilla! So, it MUST BE INSPIRED. 😜
There's a Catholic conspiracy by the Vatican Jesuits to not let anyone know. Otherwise the world would be too scared and couldn't handle it and EVERY housewife would be on Vallum and Prozac
 

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Really? It is not a matter of opinion. And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. (1 Sam 17:4)

A cubit is estimated to be between 18 and 20 inches. Using 20 inches for a cubit here is how it works out: 20 x 6/12 = 120/12 = 10 feet. Assuming that a span is about 6 inches, Goliath was 10 feet and 6 inches tall.

If a man is about 6 1/2 feet he is considered to be very tall. And Goliath would have stood 4 feet above him!
not to mention the Anakim , that was spoken about in Exodus...
 

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Really? It is not a matter of opinion. And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. (1 Sam 17:4)

A cubit is estimated to be between 18 and 20 inches. Using 20 inches for a cubit here is how it works out: 20 x 6/12 = 120/12 = 10 feet. Assuming that a span is about 6 inches, Goliath was 10 feet and 6 inches tall.

If a man is about 6 1/2 feet he is considered to be very tall. And Goliath would have stood 4 feet above him!
you know what I mean, a giant is someone significantly taller than normal, also of interest regarding goliath the dead sea scrolls actually give him a different height, I heard 4 cubits and span if I remember, of course the exact length of a cubit varied from region to region, royal cubits, standard cubits, so there's a range. Plus we don't konw whether that was a visual estimate of his height or if they actually measured him, none of which really affect the story.
 

timemeddler

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even using the dead sea scrolls 4 cubits and span going of egyptian cubuts it comes out to around 7' 6", a foot taller than the average NBA basket ball player, definitely what I'd call a giant.
 

Kroogz

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Did giants really exist?

Do you believe the children born to ancient giants, were human, or were they part demon and part human?

There are many opinions out there on that question, some claim the giants were the ancestors of Seth, the son of Noah. Others teach they were demons who took on the form of men and had inter-course with the daughters of men.

My question would be, have archeologist ever discovered or uncovered evidence that giants existed in our past?”

If so, who was the tallest male and female ever recorded in modern history.’ The tallest woman, Anna Haining Swan, a Canadian, was born on 8/6/1846. She reached the height of 7 feet, 11 inches. Robert Wadlow is said to be the tallest man ever recorded. Born in the United States, he was measured to be 8 feet, 11 inches. There have been reports of other taller people, but these were unverified.

Let’s talk about the finger of a man found in Egypt several years ago. The photo was taken in 1988 by Gregor Spoerri, a student of Egyptian history. Only now was the picture of the finger being made public. Gregor reported he had met a man who owned an oblong-shaped bag containing a man’s finger, so he asked the owner if he could take a few photos and also have the finger X-rays. The man agreed. The finger itself measured slightly under fifteen inches. They estimated the person it belonged to would have been at least sixteen feet, six inches tall. Spoerri tried to purchase the relic, but the man refused, saying, ‘It’s a family treasure.’ The x-ray proved beyond a doubt that it was a human finger.

A giant footprint was found in South Africa. The print was impressed in granite, one of the hardest rocks on earth, and measured slightly under four feet. No chisel marks were in or around the print, so it could only mean the footprint formed when someone walked there before the mud or dirt hardened. Whoever made this print would have had to be over twenty-seven feet tall.

Is it no wonder the men with Caleb said to Moses, “All the people that we saw in (the land) are men of great stature. We saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.” The whole thing seems impossible, doesn’t it?

In the Paiute Indian territory, there is a cave called Lovelock. Inside the caves were the remains of an eleven-foot-tall giant discovered in 1904 but only made known recently. In the caves and tunnels found in Death Valley, an explorer discovered the remains of a nine-foot-tall human skeleton.

In 2013, a heavy storm hit Ecuador. After the storm ended, in Aloah province, a female skeleton was unearthed. It measured seven feet four inches in height. Five others were buried in deep, elaborate graves in the same area, measuring between seven and eight feet. After closely examining a sixth skeleton, Austrian artifact researcher Klaus Dona and others concluded the man that belonged to that particular skeleton had to be twenty-five feet tall’.

So, it does appear the Bible is right when it speaks of giants on the earth? Numbers 13:33, ‘And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers.” Only the books of Genesis and Numbers speak of these giants called Nephilim. Genesis mentioned them before the flood and Numbers long after the flood.

Does this suggest a supernatural influence? Except for Noah and his family, every living creature and every human on earth died in the waters of the flood. We know natural causes or disasters cannot kill demons. These Nephilim may have shed their human flesh when the waters came and returned to the spirit world. But there is a second possibility; giantism may be in man’s D.N.A. Some outside influence may have triggered the giantism in one of Noah’s sons. If that so, it most likely was Noah’s son Ham.

1 Samuel 17:4, “And there went out a champion (among the Philistines) named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.”

There are 21.4 inches in a cubit and 9 inches in a span; this would have made Goliath almost 11 feet tall.”

Numbers 13:32, “All the people that we saw in (Canaan) are men of a great stature (size).”

Deuteronomy 3:11-12, “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bed was a bed of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? Nine cubits (15 ½ ft.) was the length thereof, and four cubits (6.4 ft.) the breath of it after the cubit of a man.”

2 Samuel 21:20. “There was a battle in Gath, where a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, --- and he was born to the giant.”

The Bible mentions people with six fingers and toes. Has there ever been any six-fingered or six-toed people found alive?’ There is a tribe in Ecuador today called the Waorani, where many in their tribe have six fingers and six toes. They are normal in size but exhibit these strange characteristics and are also violent to the extreme. In their preceding five generations, fifty percent of their deaths resulted from homicides; they also engaged in this continual but deadly internal vendetta. But medically, they have no trace of cancer, no cardiovascular disease, no high blood pressure, no allergies, and no known disease familiar to us.
I lived near a reservation and the local tribe had handed down stories of 6 fingered people. I have heard it in other places also. Their greeting was the "HOW" holding their hand up. Supposedly to identify 5 fingers or 6 fingers. That was the legend anyway.

Giants? Yep.