The Security Of The Believer
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Paul said the seal can;t be removed..
You can not break the seal my friend. You are not more powerful than God
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only by the Spirit.
and that happens when God says, feed this person, and you do it so it is GOD feeding that person, not you.
but to say No, to that, is Grieving the Holy Spirit.
God cannot use you.
so, you will never be bearing fruit.
why keep you then, when God says He cuts those kinds of branches off?
He cuts the dead parts off and burns them so the living can bear fruit.
Why do you make this so hard..
i did not say you could.
i said you can separate yourself from God to the point he cuts you off.
how about go for next few months doing nothing but Grieving the Spirit and see what happens.
Jesus is the VINE, you are the branch.
He is only cutting dead Branches.
how do you not get that?
Then God would have to break the seal. He did not say he would break the seal. or that it could be broken.
John said I can not do this, nor would I want to.
Maybe that is where you have a hard time understanding?
Yep.
He cuts dead parts off me and has been doing it for 40 years.
I know exactly what it means
A branch however, that has never produced fruit.. Well I would ask you why. did God fail?
Paul also said this.
2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
How many believe they are sealed but may not be.
Who translated that for you? The Hebrew is not English.
22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.
Have you ever seen the strength of a rhinoceros?
you don't want to is the key.
if you did, you would.
but why aren't you obeying God and fulfilling Matthew 28?
i can speak yiddish some farsi, aramaic, and short hand Hebrew.
the strength of a rhino compared to God who created the Universe.
don't see the connection.
Paul said this....Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith
Why would he tell people to examine themselves if they are in the faith, unless it is possible they are not in the faith (not saved)
No difference
If you have to work to get it or keep it. it is still works based salvation
if you don't obey and allow God to do His Works you Grieve the Holy Spirit.
so no, obedience, is not working, it's letting God WORK!
no one can get past this fact.
Jesus is the VINE
we are only the Branches.
what does Jesus do to DEAD Branches that are connected to Him?
Exactly. Not everyone that believes they are saved and sealed(Holy Spirit) will have the Holy Spirit. Perhaps they will be sealed in the future. Or maybe they will never be sealed.