Would Jesus drink Alcohol?

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ThyKingdomComeSoon

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The rest of us?

Seriously?

There are one or two of you here using multiple screen names. let the owner of the site know, he can chech with the IP adresses in most cases, if it true these people are deceivers.

That makes you a very tiny majority. all who read the bible KNOW Jesus was Jewish!

Jesus had something against Jews as I have pointed out the Scriptures that make that very clear. afainst the pharisee who twisted GOD's words yes!, there are good and bad people these were for the most part bad people and sinned in the eyes of GOD, it does not mean that all jews are bad, remember your scripture the Jews are GOD's chosen people!

I preach and teach exactly what is in the Bible. not true, everyone here can prove that.

Are you sure that you, and your other screen names, even own a Bible?

Yes I am certain I would be a liar if i did so, it is a dishonest practice, I do not go to other forums also, one is enough for me thank you braweh, know I am not against you in any way but to me the truth is the most important, if I see yoy say wrong things do not be offfended if I answer back. and I do own a bible a huge reg and gols color one in french.

Blessings and Peace!
Seriously?

There are one or two of you here using multiple screen names. let the owner of the site know, he can chech with the IP adresses in most cases, if it true these people are deceivers.

That makes you a very tiny majority. all who read the bible KNOW Jesus was Jewish!

Jesus had something against Jews as I have pointed out the Scriptures that make that very clear. afainst the pharisee who twisted GOD's words yes!, there are good and bad people these were for the most part bad people and sinned in the eyes of GOD, it does not mean that all jews are bad, remember your scripture the Jews are GOD's chosen people!

I preach and teach exactly what is in the Bible. not true, everyone here can prove that.

Are you sure that you, and your other screen names, even own a Bible?

Yes I am certain I would be a liar if i did so, it is a dishonest practice, I do not go to other forums also, one is enough for me thank you braweh, know I am not against you in any way but to me the truth is the most important, if I see yoy say wrong things do not be offfended if I answer back. and I do own a bible a huge reg and gols color one in french.

Blessings and Peace!
 

Ted01

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Yes it is so clear.. But they will doggedly ignore all those verses and stand in the position that the Bible teaches total abstinence when it teaches no such thing.. Too many people follow the preaching of men and what they believe religion should be rather then the actual Word of God..
I'm not sure that they are ignoring anything. It's way too obvious that wine is wine, not grape juice... grape juice is called wine when it becomes fermented and contains alcohol, period.

They're trolling.
 

notmyown

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His genealogy is clearly Jewish as pertains to the flesh. That's in the Bible, right?
What race do you believe He is from? A Spanish Jesus could be nice. Is there a Bethlehem, Spain?
there's one in Pennsylvania. :sneaky:
 

Magenta

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There are one or two of you here using multiple screen names.

That makes you a very tiny majority.
We have seen these types of accusations before. They are largely false, and spread by gossip-mongers with an axe to grind.
 
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truth = they used wine in the days of the apostles, regularly. water quality was bad.
This "water quality was bad" myth is absolutely hilarious.

Everybody wants to assume the world was so much worse in the past. We were all fresh outta the trees and caves, the water wasn't very pure yet and we were so much dumber then so the Bible is just a collection of fireside stories passed down thru the cavemen which contains many mistakes and "phone game" inaccuracies, etc.

The entire world was more pure back then and where, pray tell, is the slightest Biblical evidence whatsoever that the water back then was so filthy that they had to drink alcohol?

PLEASE! Somebody!

Present the most stretched verse from anywhere in Scripture that even slightly suggests that the water in Jesus' day was so filthy that it couldn't be drank without health issues, etc., etc., etc.!!

Is the water MORE pure today?!!!

That is absolute donkey urine.

P.S. your screen name is a version of a demon god. Nice.
 
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all who read the bible KNOW Jesus was Jewish!
Nobody who reads the Gospels would come to that conclusion without being taught (brainwashed) that idea.
I preach and teach exactly what is in the Bible. not true, everyone here can prove that.

Yet not one person here has yet - in any thread I've posted in - because all that I contribute is 100% Biblical.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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so the people were well drunken and then they tasted grape juice and were like "wow this is great!".
thats so unhistorical and inaccurate its just a sad attempt by the tee totalers to be holier than Jesus.

truth = they used wine in the days of the apostles, regularly. water quality was bad.
Then the entire population were raging alcoholics including the babies weaned from the the teat. Fetal alcohol syndrome from dehydrated drunken moms must've been rampant. Why children had to be dying from cirrhosis of the liver and from alcohol poisoning on those hot summer days .

How on earth does your pastor think that population survived?
 
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Then the entire population were raging alcoholics including the babies weaned from the the teat. Fetal alcohol syndrome from dehydrated drunken moms must've been rampant. Why children had to be dying from cirrhosis of the liver and from alcohol poisoning on those hot summer days .

How on earth does your pastor think that population survived?
Thank you so much for reminding me, HAH.

I'd completely forgotten about this verse.

"... the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city. They say to their mothers Where is corn and wine? when they swooned as the wounded in the streets of the city, when their soul was poured out unto their mother's bosom."
Lam. 2:11-12

These people raging against the idea that Christians should be pure are absolutely clueless about what the Bible teaches. Those who are not clueless know that they are lying to support their own addictions and to support the multi-billion dollar a year alcohol industry.

It's plain as day.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Thank you so much for reminding me, HAH.

I'd completely forgotten about this verse.

"... the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city. They say to their mothers Where is corn and wine? when they swooned as the wounded in the streets of the city, when their soul was poured out unto their mother's bosom."
Lam. 2:11-12

These people raging against the idea that Christians should be pure are absolutely clueless about what the Bible teaches. Those who are not clueless know that they are lying to support their own addictions and to support the multi-billion dollar a year alcohol industry.

It's plain as day.
What the pastor's and teachers fail to recognize is that the Bible uses the word wine for any form of fruit juice regardless of whether it's fermented or not.
Most passages are clear from the context which they're talking about. The ones that aren't obvious have to take the rest of the Bible into consideration. There aren't any contradictions in the Bible, just a lack of understanding by the readers.
 

Magenta

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What the pastor's and teachers fail to recognize is that the Bible uses the word wine for any form of fruit juice regardless of whether it's fermented or not.
Most passages are clear from the context which they're talking about. The ones that aren't obvious have to take the rest of the Bible into consideration. There aren't any contradictions in the Bible, just a lack of understanding by the readers.
Do you think unfermented grape juice impairs people's sensibilities?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Do you think unfermented grape juice impairs people's sensibilities?
A lot of things impair people's sensibilities.

My point is that the term wine is not used in the Bible exactly as it is at our modern grocery stores. Context is required for interpretation. When the context is not clear, we should look at the other uses throughout the Bible.
 

Dino246

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in any thread I've posted in - because all that I contribute is 100% Biblical.
Mormon ‘biblical’ perhaps, but certainly not Christian biblical. Your self-righteousness and borderline heresy certainly indicate your understanding od Scripture is limited.
 

Magenta

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A lot of things impair people's sensibilities.

My point is that the term wine is not used in the Bible exactly as it is at our modern grocery stores. Context is
required for interpretation. When the context is not clear, we should look at the other uses throughout the Bible.
We are not talking about "a lot of things." The subject is grape juice versus wine. Does grape juice impair people's sensibilities?
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Nobody who reads the Gospels would come to that conclusion without being taught (brainwashed) that idea.
Yet not one person here has yet - in any thread I've posted in - because all that I contribute is 100% Biblical.
Braweh , one of the particularity of the pharisee is that there were very strict, too strict and would not change their minds even when proven wrong. You are acting now in the same way, as the pharisees that JESUS detested. You say Jesus will not or would not drink wine or does not approve of wine you are wrong. Jesus words are true. I have written here on this thread the proof of what I say yet you will not listen. here they are again;

Jhn 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.
Jhn 2:7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
Jhn 2:8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
Jhn 2:9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;)
here is another one that you missed in your bible;

Isa 25:6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.

The proof you requested for the 10th time.

Peace
 

Cameron143

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lol, a tenant against yeast farts.
No more cattle, no more yeast.
Let nothing rise, kill every beast.

This is the new motto for the green revolution.