Would Jesus drink Alcohol?

[Gideon300]

You are absolutely ... cracked.

Prohibition saved thousands of lives and families.

The alcohol industry kills so many people every single day we probably can't put an accurate number on it. People are killed, in the most horrific ways, families are destroyed, children lose parents, homes, etc.

The least of the damage is the slow wasting away that hundreds of millions of people are suffering right now as we speak and all in the name of fitting in with the cool crowds and doing what our heroes are doing on TV. So many get hooked on alcohol by seeing people they look up to in the church, or friends in college, drinking daily like it's nothing.

10 years later, they can't keep a job, can't keep friends, can't get along with family members, neighbors or anybody for that matter. It is one of the most horrible downward spirals into physical and then spiritual destruction ever perpetuated on mankind.

You are nuts if you believe what you posted.

What do you know about the prohibition period? Not much, that's obvious. Don't tell me about alcohol abuse. Both my parents were alcoholics. For me, it was as natural as breathing to become a drinker. However, the problem is not the alcohol, it is the vanity of life without Jesus. Addictions generally are a result of the emptiness of life without Jesus.

Prohibition simply pushed the problem underground. It gave rise to some of the most violent criminal gangs, corruption on an industrial scale and, in the end, failed. Illegally produced alcohol can be dangerous to health. That also became a problem during prohibition.

 

[Gideon300]

Actually, God does prefer we eat unleavened bread, but leavened bread doesn't cause the absolute devastation that alcohol does.

When a passage, or chapter, etc., is misunderstood, it is corrected by considering the rest of Scripture as a whole. That's a little fail-safe God masterminded into His book.

The Bible is clear over and over that alcohol is bad and nobody attends a wedding party taking one sip of alcohol every hour or two. The party was not wasted and Jesus did not make, or ingest, any alcoholic beverage.

Ever.

Deuteronomy 14:26
Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household.

You were saying?

 

[Blade]

Never.

Jesus would not, and did not, ingest alcohol.

Jesus is all about purity of body and soul. There is nothing at all pure about alcohol. It is toxic to the human body. It is poison. It is great as an antiseptic, sure. It kills microorganisms and bacteria that it comes into contact with.

Good for human ingestion? Not so much. Take a good look at the fermentation process and think again if it makes any sense at all that Jesus would make, or serve, alcohol to anyone.

Alcohol is literally the feces of the yeast microorganism. The yeast consumes the sugar of fruits/vegetables and excretes alcohol. It also flatulates carbon dioxide so the carbonation, all the little bubbles in wine, is the gas that exits the yeast's rectum.

Does this sound like a holy and pure substance that Christ would enjoy or give to many people to ingest after they had all "well drunken"?

The fact is that wine in the Bible is referred to by a single English word when the original language used multiple words to refer to what we call wine and also what we call grape juice (unfermented).

Jesus never drank alcohol and what He actually made was pure, fresh grape juice from water - as much of a miracle as creating alcohol, if not more so.

Contrary to popular belief, the Bible speaks negatively of ingesting alcohol in many places.

George Cruikshank's painting "The Worship of Bacchus" was a very well known and sought after work in its day. It depicts how society uses alcohol and is destroyed by it. Bacchus is the ancient Greek god of wine and intoxication.

Here is a great link about the painting and what it was all about:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1120541/

Some posts are not worth the time no offense. Its just silly to say things like "Jesus never touched it in His life" when we all know everything every word He spoke is NOT written. Then your lack of understanding "wine" over 2 thousand years ago. You do know the people He hung around with most believers never would. Its why He IS and were not.

 

[Cameron143]

there's one in Pennsylvania.

Jesus is American! Now we have proof.

 

[Poinsetta]

Alcohol heals wounds it is a natural cleanser it’s like bleach only drinkable

 

[Poinsetta]

the first miracle was a premature miracle for it was not Jesus’s time but he had to show obedience to fulfill the law so was Mary right or Jesus right. Mary thought it necessary to complete a wedding Jesus’s didn’t mind now we do this in rememberance of him so we take communion also it was consumed but a family wedding is always fun so we cannot deny what Jesus did including all his miracles 🌟

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Do you think unfermented grape juice impairs people's sensibilities?

"29Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? 30They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. 31Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. 32At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. 34Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast. 35They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again."

Proverbs 23

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Do you think unfermented grape juice impairs people's sensibilities?

I've worked with people for years who have had their sensibilities impaired by excessive "juice."

Fruit juice used to be a luxury for special occasions like Jesus ' first public miracle.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I've worked with people for years who have had their sensibilities impaired by excessive "juice."

Fruit juice used to be a luxury for special occasions like Jesus ' first public miracle.
It's still a tradition to serve fruit punch or various juices at wedding receptions, etc.

I posted the intoxication of fermentation from the Proverb first. There are also many who are making very poor decisions from addiction to excessive sugars. For instance the nurse who rather a cancer patient be fed Insure rather than healthy nutrient dense anti-inflammatory whole food.
She lacks sensibility as do the physicians who say, calories in/ calories out... it's all the same. Take them to McDonald's.

 

[JimmyTheLock]

Deuteronomy 14:26
Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household.

You were saying?

Sounds like we should all go get drunk!

 

[Braweh]

"Over the years many have written to me or confronted me directly over this "Jesus drank wine" lie teaching. They have pointed out to me that Leviticus 10:9 says, "Do not drink wine nor strong drink ... when you go into the tabernacle of the congregation." They argue that even the Priests were allowed to drink fermented wine and strong drink as long as they were outside and not inside the Tabernacle.

My answer is always the same. "First, verse ten states that fermented wine and strong drink is unholy and unclean whether inside or outside of the Tabernacle. Therefore, they were not allowed to drink unholy and unclean substances whether inside the Tabernacle or outside of the Tabernacle.

"Second, you say you believe that the prohibition on fermented wine and strong drink existed only within the tabernacle. Following that line of reasoning, doesn't the Bible say that YOU are now the Tabernacle of God? Wouldn't that mean that you should never partake of what God refers to as unholy and unclean?"

http://www.johnhamelministries.org/wine_lie_Jesus.htm

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Do you think unfermented grape juice impairs people's sensibilities?

Did you read my follow up? I probably should have stated the obvious that alcohol impairs according to the proverb posted.

I also believe that too much unfermented can impair too, but in different ways.
It won't be called drunkenness, but there are many impairments from long term high use of refined sugars/ low nutrient diets. My first formal class on nutrition at WVU required us to learn that the wealthy usually developed diseases not found in the poor.

 

[Braweh]

Some posts are not worth the time no offense. Its just silly to say things like "Jesus never touched it in His life" when we all know everything every word He spoke is NOT written. Then your lack of understanding "wine" over 2 thousand years ago. You do know the people He hung around with most believers never would. Its why He IS and were not.

We don't need to know all of that. All we need to know is His character and His character, just like His Father's, was all about purity.

It was of paramount importance to Jesus that He be pure and He expects all Christians to purify themselves.

We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that He never once touched anything fermented. Never.

He would not have been Holy Christ if He had.

The problem is with modern Christians' perspective of God and Jesus. It is far too small, too weak, too human to be anything close to the True Nature of God Almighty...

... The most pure and holy and powerful being in all of existence.

Everyone who has the hope of being anything like Jesus Christ, purifies themselves, even as Jesus Christ is pure.
1 Jn. 3:3

And the Levites purified themselves and purified the people and the gates and the wall.
Neh. 12:30

 

[Braweh]

What do you know about the prohibition period? Not much, that's obvious. Don't tell me about alcohol abuse. Both my parents were alcoholics. For me, it was as natural as breathing to become a drinker. However, the problem is not the alcohol, it is the vanity of life without Jesus. Addictions generally are a result of the emptiness of life without Jesus.

Prohibition simply pushed the problem underground. It gave rise to some of the most violent criminal gangs, corruption on an industrial scale and, in the end, failed. Illegally produced alcohol can be dangerous to health. That also became a problem during prohibition.

You might be really, really old, but you were no more alive during prohibition than anybody else here.

You don't know anymore about it than I do. I promise you.

Alcohol destroys people and families every single day.

If you know so much about that first-hand, then you are a work of God that He cannot use. If you are speaking FOR the consumption of alcohol, ESPECIALLY among Christians, then you have failed to produce good fruit for the Lord from your own life experiences.

 

[Magenta]

Did you read my follow up? I probably should have stated the obvious that alcohol impairs according to the proverb posted.

Yeah... nobody has said alcohol in excess is good or recommended. while it has been shown (and multiple times at that)
that Scripture promotes the prudent use of alcohol under certain circumstances for certain people, making it not sin.

There is zero reason to assume Jesus never drank fermented wine. Or to make blanket statements such as "drinking is a sin."

Giving the fact that people abuse alcohol makes any consumption of it a sin would then make eating a sin.

 

[Braweh]

Deuteronomy 14:26
Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household.

You were saying?

Yet another mistranslation to support the alcohol industry.

Here is the ancient Wycliffe Bible version for all to look up and see for themselves.

"26and thou shalt buy of the same money whatever thing pleaseth to thee, either of droves, either of sheep; also thou shalt buy wine, and cider, and all things that thy soul desireth;"
Deut. 14:26 Wycliffe Bible
https://biblehub.com/wycliffe/deuteronomy/14.htm

Grape juice and cider.

Not strong drink at all.

Praise the Lord.

 

[Braweh]

Deuteronomy 14:26
Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household.

You were saying?

And before anyone tries to claim cider means a fermented drink, the 1953 Webster's Dictionary, 2nd Collegiate Edition defines cider as such:

Cider = the juice pressed from apples or other fruits; used as a beverage or for making vinegar: sweet cider is unfermented, hard cider is fermented.

In Deut. 14:26,

wine = grape juice
cider = apple/other fruit juice

 

[Cameron143]

You might be really, really old, but you were no more alive during prohibition than anybody else here.

You don't know anymore about it than I do. I promise you.

Alcohol destroys people and families every single day.

If you know so much about that first-hand, then you are a work of God that He cannot use. If you are speaking FOR the consumption of alcohol, ESPECIALLY among Christians, then you have failed to produce good fruit for the Lord from your own life experiences.

You mentioned earlier that Jesus's yoke was easy and His burden light. The burden the Pharisees put on the people was not light and they never lifted a finger to help. They taught the commandments of men as though they were the commandments of God. They didn't recognize this concerning themselves. Neither do you.

 

[Magenta]

Cider = the juice pressed from apples or other fruits; used as a beverage or
for making vinegar: sweet cider is unfermented, hard cider is fermented.

The Bible does not specify what type of cider when mentioned (sweet vs hard). But to assume
it only means a sweet cider as per your human traditions' definition above is silly specifically
in light of the fact that it is recommended for forgetting "they neediness and their sorrow."

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Jesus, drank, what is known as the fruit of the vine.
we call it wine.
but it's pressed grapes into juice held in wine skins.
and to ferment is basically a 2 to 3 week process.
the question is, did Jesus drink the fermented or before it was fermented?
they're both called Wine:

we know his first Miracle was Wine.
and the Wine Master tested it.
so, either the juice was really really good, or it was fermented.

but, after turning the water into Wine, it does not say Jesus drank any of it.

this is a toss up.