Ball Earth conundrums

[Dino246]

I seriously doubt that - altimeters or sonar detection of the water surface would make sense, however.

How would a missile determine the 'curvature' in order to utilize it? Otherwise, your suggestion has a "math-only" frame of reference with no relation to the physical reality.

The missile itself doesn't need to "determine the curvature"; it only needs to follow the sea surface. The principles of its design incorporate the reality of the curved sea surface.

 

[Dino246]

Lesson Learned - make absolute sure that you "cover all the bases" and "leave nothing out" before you postulate something.

And, that being said, I would advise all FE folks everywhere to let the tennis ball thing die a harsh death in its tracks and never be mentioned again - at least not until you have had the opportunity for your personal research to cover every last possible imaginable related detail - resulting in a very solid unbreakable conclusion. (I personally do not believe that it is a sound-enough illustration for a Ball Earth conundrum.)

And here I thought your "lesson learned" was about the moon's orbit. The tennis ball thing is also invalid though.

 

[GaryA]

The problem is that FE is demonstrably wrong.

Funny - I have not seen it demonstrated to be wrong...

The absolute majority accept that the earth is a globe.

That is because they have been "brainwashed" into believing it.

 

[Gideon300]

Funny - I have not seen it demonstrated to be wrong...


That is because they have been "brainwashed" into believing it.

No. It helps to have your eyes open. I have nothing against you, Gary. I believe you are sincere. Some others who post on FE, well, enuff said.........

 

[GaryA]

He's got a point about the temperature differences of north and south.

It is a very good point indeed! And, I will suggest that the reality that we see (that he describes) is so extremely highly improbable in a Ball Earth model context that this point alone invalidates the Ball Earth model. The true reality simply does not match the Ball Earth model.

 

[GaryA]

No. It helps to have your eyes open.

My eyes are wide open - of that I have no doubt whatsoever.

I have nothing against you, Gary.

I have nothing against you, either - please don't ever think it.

I believe you are sincere.

I am sincere about speaking what I believe to be the truth - even if it is not the popular opinion.

I am sincere about trying to do it out of real-and-honest Christian love for my brothers and sisters in Christ.

We may disagree on some things - but, we also agree on other things.

I always try to look at the "big picture" - the whole forest - not just one or two trees.

For example, @Nehemiah6 and I disagree where the timing of the rapture is concerned; however, we agree on many other things. And, I very much appreciate anyone in the world today who is "awake and aware" and trying to raise awareness about things in our current reality like he is doing.

Inasmuch as he is a born-again brother in Christ - well - that is really the most important thing.

It is the same with you and others. There is much that we agree on - let us not allow disagreement between us to destroy anything - we are only discussing various topics in different threads. And, while the focus remains "narrow" (as it should) in any particular thread about any particular topic - I always try to never loose sight of the "big picture"...

 

[Gideon300]

I seriously doubt that - altimeters or sonar detection of the water surface would make sense, however.

How would a missile determine the 'curvature' in order to utilize it? Otherwise, your suggestion has a "math-only" frame of reference with no relation to the physical reality.

I was in the Australian Navy for 8-1/2 years. 3-1/2 years of that was on a destroyer. We did wargames except with real ships and weaponry. The Royal Navy sent an aircraft carrier as part of its fleet. We were "attacked" by an aircraft that had TFR (terrian following radar). It was on us before we had a chance to respond. The jet flew so low and fast that it was hidden below the horizon, you know, the one you do not believe exists. Fleet Air Arm 10, RAN nil.

If the earth was flat, we would have detected the aircraft before it was in firing range. This was 1970's so missiles were not as clever as they are now. Aircraft can launch from 100's of K's away. More dangerous are cruise missiles that drop down to sea level before attacking. The idea is to minimise the time the target has to respond. The Royal Navy found this out in the Falklands war.

 

[Gideon300]

It is a very good point indeed! And, I will suggest that the reality that we see (that he describes) is so extremely highly improbable in a Ball Earth model context that this point alone invalidates the Ball Earth model. The true reality simply does not match the Ball Earth model.

I live in Australia. The south of the country is cold in winter, the north much warmer. Winter is mid year for us. This is the opposite of the northen hemisphere. According to FE theory, there is no southern hemisphere. FE has no way of accounting for this. I've flown from Melbourne (Australia) to LA a couple of times. I arrived before I left. How is this possible? The earth is rotating.

 

[GaryA]

How is this possible? The earth is rotating.

The sun is moving in a circular path high above the earth.

 

[GaryA]

I live in Australia. The south of the country is cold in winter, the north much warmer. Winter is mid year for us. This is the opposite of the northen hemisphere. According to FE theory, there is no southern hemisphere. FE has no way of accounting for this. I've flown from Melbourne (Australia) to LA a couple of times. I arrived before I left. How is this possible? The earth is rotating.

I wish you would give this video a really good honest sincere watch and listen:

Carefully contemplate what he is saying about the 'north' versus the 'south'.

 

[GaryA]

FE has no way of accounting for this.

Sure it does, brother - you just refuse to listen!

Seriously - watch the video - only 10 minutes or so - listen very carefully and thoughfully.

 

[Moses_Young]

I seriously doubt that - altimeters or sonar detection of the water surface would make sense, however.

How would a missile determine the 'curvature' in order to utilize it? Otherwise, your suggestion has a "math-only" frame of reference with no relation to the physical reality.

I once knew a man who worked in/with the military - did all sorts with torpedos and ship weapons. He was a flat Earther. So at least with torpedos and such in the water, they travelled straight, not on some ball-Earth curve (or this guy wouldn't have been a flat-Earther).

 

[Romans34]

The absolute majority accept that the earth is a globe.

The absolute majority also accept that the person and ministry of Jesus Christ is something like a fairy tale . . . but they are wrong!

 

[Gideon300]

The absolute majority also accept that the person and ministry of Jesus Christ is something like a fairy tale . . . but they are wrong!

There is a difference between spiritual blindness and intellectual folly.

 

[ByTheGraceOfGod]

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[ByTheGraceOfGod]

 

[ByTheGraceOfGod]

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[Romans34]

There is a difference between spiritual blindness and intellectual folly.

And unfortunately, some possess both.

 

[NightTwister]

And unfortunately, some possess both.

And yet some possess neither.

 

[Romans34]

And yet some possess neither.

And it is so sad the number that think they are the one, but they are the other.