I think it's admirable to make every effort to persuade the lost. I merely suggesting to you that absent a work of God in the heart of an individual, all will be for naught.
Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?
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Very true indeed. And to be converted, we need to be drawn by Jesus through the Gospel.
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
- Ephesians 1:10,12-13 (KJV)
I understand that. How do you answer when somebody says the Bible is corrupt, Christians are divided into countless denominations, and if it were true, then God would not have allowed it to happen?
Perhaps naught as in = it takes the work of God moving in a person's life to bring them to belief.
For myself, I learned an awful lot speaking with non-believers. Some of it was shocking, like finding
out how much they hated Christians, and largely blamed the woes of humanity squarely on Christians.
And finding out that there was no length they would not go, in order to try to destroy the faith of a believer.
Sadly, I did witness such tragedies. But that did not cause me to falter, even as I witnessed others crashing.
If anything, it helped to shape and strengthen what I was already doing.
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Those chosen before the foundation of the world are.
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
- Romans 8:29-30 (KJV)
I was not born a believer. I was raised in a fairly strict religious environment but rebelled against it.Those chosen before the foundation of the world are.
Does that mean we should just ignore anyone's questions about validity of the Bible?. . .
Those chosen before the foundation of the world are.
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
- Romans 8:29-30 (KJV)
Well, let me say a little bit more. None of us know who the elect are, and we all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Savior. However, the elect will always accept Jesus upon hearing the Gospel. There’s no question.
I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
- John 10:14,26-28 (KJV)
Wow. Well, I was brought up in a religious home. I cannot say how many times I heard it.
Maybe I never heard it in all those years. Don't we need ears to hear? Who gives us those?
Many agricultural terms are used in the descriptions of how one comes to belief. My mind
certainly needed a lot of plowing and turning over to soften it to the point of acceptance.
Exactly so. Which means as @Cameron143 indicated earlier, until one is given those, all our "preaching" falls on deaf ears.the LORD does.
These and many others are good questions. Asking questions can be just an attempt to put forth one's beliefs or it could be a work of God and the beginning of faith. As to answering the questions, it would depend on the audience and my familiarity with them. If I know them and regularly speak with them I would probably give longer and more detailed answers. If I didn't know the audience well, I would probably be the one asking questions. All that to say, the circumstances generally dictate the answer. But in either case, I would expect God to give me what to say...whether through study or in the moment.
If you want me to answer the questions individually, I have no problem doing that. But I would need a defined audience.
Maybe you can teach younger believers to better answer objections to Scripture or God. I have engaged unbelievers over the years and without God stepping in, it don’t matter how good or detailed your answers are.
"Thrown the Bible under the bus"? Whatever!
I have demonstrated that the KJV is not without error, and thereby refuted your position. That you can't accept the presence of error in the KJV is your delusional problem. Don't worry, you have plenty of company on this board.
I wonder…
Despite the fact that I am certainly a TR advocate, the wider question is the admissibility and authority of the CT to modify the Greek text that most translations take as their source. I certainly hold that God had a hand in the production of the KJV but I understand that others are more sceptical.
“KJV only” aside, is there not room for a reasoned position based on a re-assessment of the core text toward TR based translations?