I am a Christian who does not accept or follow Christianity.

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I have no idea. But I would say rather that Jesus is the Son of God.
And that creates quite the quagmire, regarding your position.

Jesus was God before He was called the son of God. But you seem to believe that because He was called the son of God, He is no longer God.
 
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Wait a second friend… It does just say Jesus was with God. It says Jesus was God.


John 1:1-12
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
That is not what I said.

the Word was with God.

God was the word.

Then John 17:5. For, God has revealed this to me.
 
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Wait a second friend… It does just say Jesus was with God. It says Jesus was God.


John 1:1-12
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 TR - Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

In the beginning was the word. And the word was with God. And God was the word.
 
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That is not what I said.

the Word was with God.

God was the word.

Then John 17:5. For, God has revealed this to me.
You said:
God was the word.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

So you admit God is the word, and the word “God” became flesh. So the flesh that God became is God. Simple
 
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You said:

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

So you admit God is the word, and the word “God” became flesh. So the flesh that God became is God. Simple
I don't believe what you are telling me.
 
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John 1:1 TR - Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

In the beginning was the word. And the word was with God. And God was the word.
Yes….. God was the word… And the word became flesh and dwelt amongst us.
 

Mem

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Anywhoo, no one can knock God down even one peg.
 
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I don't believe what you are telling me.
Just read what is written…

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

God is the Word. The Word is God. And God (word) became flesh (Jesus)

But it doesn’t get much easier than this.

God=Word — Word=Flesh — Flesh= Jesus — Jesus=God God=Word Word=Flesh Flesh=Jesus Jesus=God
 
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I don't know where you get that.

John 1:14 NASB20 - And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only [Son] from the Father, full of grace and truth.
I wasn’t going to address this, but we are going to obviously have different opinions on scriptures, that just comes with us all being individuals.
However; I say this as a fellow believer, your Bible sucks!
My man, your manuscripts are suspect at least.
Why are you utilizing a Bible that openly replaces words of the original text?
 
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Sorry I mised your answers, so you belive that God exist as tree persons?
 

GRACE_ambassador

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Sorry I mised your answers, so you belive that God exist as tree persons?
Yes, we believe The Scriptures:

"For there are Three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The​
Word, and The Holy Ghost: and These Three are One." (1 John 5:7)​
ONE Triune GodHead.png
Amen.
 

Magenta

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Just read what is written…

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

God is the Word. The Word is God. And God (word) became flesh (Jesus)

But it doesn’t get much easier than this.

God=Word — Word=Flesh — Flesh= Jesus — Jesus=God God=Word Word=Flesh Flesh=Jesus Jesus=God
Plainly, Jacob does not believe what is written. Though he will tell you that he does.