How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

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Do you believe they are not contradictory? Why?
Do you rely on faith to believe they are consistent with each other? Is that an excuse or a reason?

Inquiring minds want to know! Leave your answers below, eh.
The problem you have is that you fail to understand the triune God Almighty. The best way to do that is just take scripture for what it clearly says.

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. - 1 John 5:7
 
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And Yeshua answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
 
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Yet Jesus is saying he's not God but is the Son.
So who shall we believe, Paul or Jesus..;)
Peter, in Book of Acts, says Jesus has to be God because [[only God]] could do the Miracles that Jesus did.
No one in the history of the Bible has done anywhere near the Miracles Jesus did, and John, in his Gospel says, if they wrote everything down Jesus did, it would fill the entire world libraries.

How do you miss this stuff, beside purposefully denying it, whenever you read it?
 
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You're just ignorant.
If that's the case, please cure my ignorance as the Bible instructs you to do..:)-
"Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will" (2 Tim 2:23-26)
A good start would be for you to kindly give me your interpretation of this verse in which Jesus clearly seems to be saying he's not God, or am I missing something?
"I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28)
 
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"I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28)
the Spirit is always GREATER than the Flesh.

Jesus, is the Physical Image to the Invisible [Spirit] Image.

When you see the Father you see Jesus, when you see Jesus, you see the Father.
 

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If that's the case, please cure my ignorance as the Bible instructs you to do..:)-
"Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will" (2 Tim 2:23-26)
A good start would be for you to kindly give me your interpretation of this verse in which Jesus clearly seems to be saying he's not God, or am I missing something?
"I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28)
Ok,

Here is a verse for you found in 1cor chapter 14:38


38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

There you go, enjoy.
 
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Peter, in Book of Acts, says Jesus has to be God because [[only God]] could do the Miracles that Jesus did..
Sure, Jesus had the holy spirit in abundance-
..believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father" (John 10:38)
Likewise, Christians have "mindmelded" with Jesus and have the holy spirit in them too but that doesn't mean they're God..:)

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According to you, Scripture is not inspired. So what do you base your knowledge of God upon?..

Some scriptures are more inspired than others, for example Paul said-
"..women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." (1 Cor 14:34/35)
But I don't agree with that verse, do you?..;)
 

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Some scriptures are more inspired than others, for example Paul said-
"..women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." (1 Cor 14:34/35)
But I don't agree with that verse, do you?..;)
That is applicable to married women if anyone, so does not apply to me...

Do you think this site is "church"?
 

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Exactly what a pie queen would ask.
It is probable that many remember the Dutch band Golden Earring mostly for Twilight Zone and Radar Love, but the LP Moontan, which hosted Radar Love, had other great tunes on it, including one called The Vanilla Queen... and of course, vanilla gets used a lot in baking...

 
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Sure, Jesus had the holy spirit in abundance-
..believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father" (John 10:38)
Likewise, Christians have "mindmelded" with Jesus and have the holy spirit in them too but that doesn't mean they're God..:)

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Who do you think the flesh looking person called LORD, MOST HIGH GOD, YHWH, Yahweh, to both Moses and Abraham was? the same Person as Jesus was flesh and John said Jesus was the WORD, Who is GOD made flesh.
 

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It is probable that many remember the Dutch band Golden Earring mostly for Twilight Zone and Radar Love, but the LP Moontan, which hosted Radar Love, had other great tunes on it, including one called The Vanilla Queen... and of course, vanilla gets used a lot in baking...

My sincerest apologies. Exactly what a Vanille Queen would ask. I didn't realize you were the Countess of all things confectionery.
 

Magenta

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John 1:18 and 1 Timothy 4:1-2
Thank you for the inspiration @Dropship, who is no longer with us... .
 

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I may be new to CC but I'm 75 years old and have been doing the rounds of religious and other forums for 20 years and have quite a big 11 million following, so at least i must be saying something they like..:)
it is not surprising that there are many people on the broad way.
 

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The Hebrew word translated "the Lord" in that passage is Yehovah-- a.k.a.
Jehovah, a.k.a. Yahweh --which is a phonetic way of pronouncing the four
letter tetragrammaton YHVH.




According to 2Pet 1:16-18, the voice was audible, i.e. heard by Peter and his
friends with their own ears. That being the case, then I have to assume it
was Jehovah doing what he has always done since the very beginning, to
wit: speaking as the Father and speaking for the Father. (cf. Matt 3:16)


NOTE: I strongly suspect that new arrivals in Heaven are whisked away to a
sort of Bible camp where their mistakes are corrected, and all the blanks
filled in, so that when they're released into general population there will be
no quarrelling and no debating.
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Yahweh as Israel's one God speaks the ten commandments. As the Scriptures progress in revelation of God, we discover that that ONE God is also composed of three Persons: the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. He is a Mystery that human thought cannot figure out with our puny minds. The voice coming from heaven is the Father's in commissioning the Second Person of God, Jesus, to his mission of salvation.