Sharing Christ in the workplace

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HealthAndHappiness

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Looking for some guidance and godly counsel. I have this really odd situation at my workplace that’s been going on for years. I work around several individuals who will randomly take jabs at Christianity and Jesus while I’m in earshot. They habitually swear in Jesus name then will turn around and in passing conversations with others they will say things like “ Jim , saw ya last night, did ya get saved?” “Did ya find Jesus? “ I’m assuming they both attended the same church service but its about as condescending towards the other as possible. Zero visible fruit in these way either of these guys carry themselves. When I try to talk about Jesus things literally they have zero interest and put up the walls about not mixing religion and work and run away . I don’t get it. It’s like they have their own religiousness and I’m outside that evidently. Am I to assume these are indeed words spoken from the church attending but yet unbelieving and mockers? The foul things that come fourth from their mouths while claiming Jesus is just astonishing from these guys. Anyone experience anything like this? It’s at a level I don’t even know how to enter conversation without getting sucked into their ungodly conversations. Do I begin assuming they are unbelievers or do I begin by rebukes? Keep in mind, very tough skinned , blue collar workers. Not well educated and clearly not taking in what they are hearing in their church services.
Yup, I've experienced the insults of reprobate rejects many times. Even in this forum you'll find those who tell you that you can't share the gospel with others because "Boss Wo-man says so.". ..or whatever....makes no difference to me. They can go back to their United Cathoholic Blue Haired Lezbyterian church and soak their own heads in the baptistry and see how long they can hold their breath.
It makes no difference to me. I've got work to do and people to get saved when not on the clock.

So, I'm guessing that the two guys you mentioned are the only ones on the job?
I can give a few tips, but need more details.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Looking for some guidance and godly counsel. I have this really odd situation at my workplace that’s been going on for years. I work around several individuals who will randomly take jabs at Christianity and Jesus while I’m in earshot. They habitually swear in Jesus name then will turn around and in passing conversations with others they will say things like “ Jim , saw ya last night, did ya get saved?” “Did ya find Jesus? “ I’m assuming they both attended the same church service but its about as condescending towards the other as possible. Zero visible fruit in these way either of these guys carry themselves. When I try to talk about Jesus things literally they have zero interest and put up the walls about not mixing religion and work and run away . I don’t get it. It’s like they have their own religiousness and I’m outside that evidently. Am I to assume these are indeed words spoken from the church attending but yet unbelieving and mockers? The foul things that come fourth from their mouths while claiming Jesus is just astonishing from these guys. Anyone experience anything like this? It’s at a level I don’t even know how to enter conversation without getting sucked into their ungodly conversations. Do I begin assuming they are unbelievers or do I begin by rebukes? Keep in mind, very tough skinned , blue collar workers. Not well educated and clearly not taking in what they are hearing in their church services.

1. Address their behavior on a professional level

2. If 1 doesn't work. Report it as harassment.

3. Find a new job

4. Pray and treat their harassment with kindness. Sometimes being kind may stop their harassment.

5. Keep a journal with date, time, and witnesses. Document every incident. Try not to give them any ammunition. This gives you something to use for option two.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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What are your goals?
Like, are you trying to get these two guys saved?
Are you just venting about an irritating job environment? That's ok too, but got to know or I'm just wasting time guessing.
 
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FollowingtheWay

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1. Address their behavior on a professional level

2. If 1 doesn't work. Report it as harassment.

3. Find a new job

4. Pray and treat their harassment with kindness. Sometimes being kind may stop their harassment.

5. Keep a journal with date, time, and witnesses. Document every incident. Try not to give them any ammunition. This gives you something to use for option two.
I wish it were that easy. A new job it would be because Management partakes in such behavior and is right there watching being just as verbally abusive and crude at times as those under them. Most have quit because of this company culture. But it’s also a career culture. Hard to report behavior they learn from their boss. They only see complaints of harassment as having thin skin and then you get the “hurt feelers” report laid on you.
 
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FollowingtheWay

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What are your goals?
Like, are you trying to get these two guys saved?
Are you just venting about an irritating job environment? That's ok too, but got to know or I'm just wasting time guessing.
I’d like to see them saved primarily the other issues are secondary and can come later as a byproduct of walking with the Lord.
 
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FollowingtheWay

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So, I'm guessing that the two guys you mentioned are the only ones on the job?
They are two of the noisiest. Make most of the trouble. I like a challenge. I’m of a mind that if I Take the hardest most boisterous ones on the rest may follow. It’s like a herd mentality thing, these two start in and the rest join in from the sidelines. They all really range from unbelieving, anti God, one very anti evangelism so much so as a Forman immediate boss came up to me when I began wearing my faith on my sleeve and made the statement

“you’re not going to be one of those annoying Christians that goes around telling everyone about God are you? If so we’re going to have a problem” then points to a car and says “this is my god” I was speechless. Clear intimidation tactic immediately from this boss of mine
 

Underwhosewings

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They are two of the noisiest. Make most of the trouble. I like a challenge. I’m of a mind that if I Take the hardest most boisterous ones on the rest may follow. It’s like a herd mentality thing, these two start in and the rest join in from the sidelines. They all really range from unbelieving, anti God, one very anti evangelism so much so as a Forman immediate boss came up to me when I began wearing my faith on my sleeve and made the statement

“you’re not going to be one of those annoying Christians that goes around telling everyone about God are you? If so we’re going to have a problem” then points to a car and says “this is my god” I was speechless. Clear intimidation tactic immediately from this boss of mine
So true.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I’d like to see them saved primarily the other issues are secondary and can come later as a byproduct of walking with the Lord.

Ok, thank you.
I appreciate your compassion for the lost coworkers. Everyone needs the gospel. It's rare when anyone is willing and courageous enough to share Christ though.

Everyone is different.
I don't know if these guys actually hate God or if they are simply wicked. I've worked with guys who threatened to rape my family and were full blown reprobates. I have no patience for them. If your coworkers make those type of statements about violence towards you, yours, or others, I'd report it to the owner right away and also follow up by making a formal written dated statement. If they are trying to get under your skin, that is often the attitude of nominal religionists who gang up, thinking they are asserting themselves like a dog marking a tree. Again, I wouldn't lose sleep over them, but take it to the Lord as a serious matter and you still might want to take it to the owner.

I have seen really wicked people get saved, like outlaw bikers, but it's not common. Usually God has to hurt them real bad so the only place to look for help is up. The typical worldly person usually doesn't want to hear about anything that might point to their sins, so they mock the messenger. You could pray for God to show them their mortality and give you an opportunity to share the gospel at a time when their heart is tender. That sometimes happens, but you will likely be most effective and good at it if you are already witnessing with friends from church. If you are not attending a soul winning church, then I encourage you to find one within driving distance. Make sure they have the right gospel on their website and pastor explains it clearly of course. Ask what time of the week they go soul winning and if they have someone else you can go with. The following should ideally be done in pairs, one being the silent partner and the other leading. Once you feel comfortable, then normally you take turns. It's the best way to get the gospel to many in my opinion. Don't worry about the fake "Christians", JWs and Mormons giving it a bad name. Jesus addressed those who did, yet still told His disciples to go. . The New Testament Believers were soul winners and the fundamental Baptists go soul winning. I haven't seen other evangelicals do it lately although there's the push to get the lost to church. That's not enough. My last was an evangelical non-denominational church, but the pastor's weren't open to soulwinning or starting an outreach ministry even though it was following an Andy Stanley mega church format.. When the pastor preached against using the word Saved, because it might make someone feel uncomfortable or lost, I took that as a reason to go.

There Are all kinds of places of outreach, but it helps to find a like minded pastor. Let me know if I can be of help . I have lots of very good material on the subject. Perhaps a list of churches in your area that you can look into if you like.
Soul Winning demonstration.

Example #1

Example #2

The guys at work might not want to hear the Word. Then again, they might be open to an interesting Bible story on occasion. . It might not lead them to the Lord, but at least plant seed . They probably won't be very familiar, but everyone likes a good story. If they don't like that, no big deal, just memorize verses and look forward to weekly soul winning times where you meet and go out from
church.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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They are two of the noisiest. Make most of the trouble. I like a challenge. I’m of a mind that if I Take the hardest most boisterous ones on the rest may follow. It’s like a herd mentality thing, these two start in and the rest join in from the sidelines. They all really range from unbelieving, anti God, one very anti evangelism so much so as a Forman immediate boss came up to me when I began wearing my faith on my sleeve and made the statement

“you’re not going to be one of those annoying Christians that goes around telling everyone about God are you? If so we’re going to have a problem” then points to a car and says “this is my god” I was speechless. Clear intimidation tactic immediately from this boss of mine

Maybe a prayer for God to destroy that idol and help him to see his need for Christ would be in order. I would keep the prayer to yourself though. Lol
 

Underwhosewings

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#34
Looking for some guidance and godly counsel. I have this really odd situation at my workplace that’s been going on for years. I work around several individuals who will randomly take jabs at Christianity and Jesus while I’m in earshot. They habitually swear in Jesus name then will turn around and in passing conversations with others they will say things like “ Jim , saw ya last night, did ya get saved?” “Did ya find Jesus? “ I’m assuming they both attended the same church service but its about as condescending towards the other as possible. Zero visible fruit in these way either of these guys carry themselves. When I try to talk about Jesus things literally they have zero interest and put up the walls about not mixing religion and work and run away . I don’t get it. It’s like they have their own religiousness and I’m outside that evidently. Am I to assume these are indeed words spoken from the church attending but yet unbelieving and mockers? The foul things that come fourth from their mouths while claiming Jesus is just astonishing from these guys. Anyone experience anything like this? It’s at a level I don’t even know how to enter conversation without getting sucked into their ungodly conversations. Do I begin assuming they are unbelievers or do I begin by rebukes? Keep in mind, very tough skinned , blue collar workers. Not well educated and clearly not taking in what they are hearing in their church services.
I first read about that kind of thing when I saw an article on Kayne West. At his church apparently there is no preaching.
They seem to think that they can name the name of Jesus (which is really another Jesus) and carry on their worldly life. Obviously they believe in once saved always saved. But clearly there is no fruit meet for repentance.
Matthew 3:8 KJV
Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I first read about that kind of thing when I saw an article on Kayne West. At his church apparently there is no preaching.
They seem to think that they can name the name of Jesus (which is really another Jesus) and carry on their worldly life. Obviously they believe in once saved always saved. But clearly there is no fruit meet for repentance.
Matthew 3:8 KJV
Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

Fruit?
Who's saying that Kanye, oops, Ye ever was saved?
Kanye is THE most Humble Man in Recent History!
 

Underwhosewings

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At my job, the issue is not one of people openly mocking Christ or Christianity. In fact, I pretty much never hear anybody say a word about such things except for maybe one or two people.

In my current situation, I am dealing with a lot of just outright nasty people, and they normally operate in cliques or groups. What I have been trying to do, and I have had a certain level of success, is to try to isolate people from their groups and befriend them, usually through a common interest, so I might gain some sort of inroad into their lives.

For example, there is one guy who, for no reason whatsoever, was the most obnoxious jerk imaginable to me for several months. I mean, it got so bad that I literally caught myself daydreaming about getting into a fistfight with him on several different occasions, and, of course, that is never the route to go. I had overheard him talking about his favorite NFL team several times, so I got him a lanyard (one of those things that you wear around your neck that you can put your keys or ID on) of his favorite team, and I gave it to him. When I did, you should have seen the look on his face. He was totally dumbfounded, and I was actually left wondering if he thought I was gay or something. Anyhow, that simple gesture really broke down a massive wall between us. Now, he says "Good morning" to me every day, and he regularly initiates conversations with me on different topics. We have not spoken about the Lord yet, but at least we are talking.

The same thing with another guy at work. He absolutely detested me for some unknown reason. In his case, I actually asked a woman in his department who I am friendly with to sort of go "undercover" to see why he hated me so much. She did ask him about it, and he told her that he could not stand me, but he admitted to her that he did not even know why. Anyhow, I knew that he was a Yankees fan (I could not care less about sports), so I engaged him in a brief conversation about the Yankees. Fast forward to now. He goes out of his way, every day, to initiate conversations with me on different topics. I am not sure exactly what the common denominator is with these types of people, but maybe it would help if you just took some sort of initiative to find some sort of commonality between you and your co-workers, and start from there.

Of course, the goal is to share Christ, but we do not necessarily have to lead the conversation with that.

I am thinking of a woman I work with as I type this. She absolutely detests Christianity, from what another worker told me, and when she found out that I was a Christian, I could immediately sense disdain for me in her. Well, I have been very kind to her, day after day, for months, and she is definitely warming up to me, and some walls are seemingly coming down.

Sometimes we just need some kindness mixed with a little patience. It has been said that we are the only Bible which some people will ever read, so let us concentrate on being living epistles of Christ or preaching through our lives. Believe me, I am not writing these things as someone who has always done things the right way, but I am learning.
Yes, been there, done that.
Also I was the only female in my workplace that wore a skirt,
(at the job interview I was told to wear trousers, and said that I didn’t have any and preferred not to wear trousers)

After about 5 years, the Boss/store manager asked me if I could convince the other female staff to wear skirts.
The end of the story is, I became the female manager of the store.
God actually took away all of the mockers.
Just be the Christian.
When we all had to wear the football badge for the grand final season, I was still very new to the store and not given an option, so I pinned it to my shoulder. Immediately the next customer said what’s that, I said I didn’t follow the football, customer said then why are you wearing it.
(God can use strangers)
Immediately I strangely began to feel nauseous.
My tea break came, and I straight away asked to be excused from wearing the football badge.
End of that story was, a few days later I caught two thief/customers who actually got the till/register open and almost got away with hundreds but then they saw me watching.
The boss congratulated me in front of the other staff.
🤭
 

Underwhosewings

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Let me give you one more example from my workplace.

One guy that I work with, and he is probably one of only two or three friends that I have in the whole building, has a really bad temper. I mean a REALLY BAD TEMPER. In fact, he has gotten in the face of other co-workers as if he wanted to fistfight them. Just yesterday, I semi-jokingly said to him, "Hey, I must be a pretty good guy because you have never come at me to fight me", and he chuckled.

Anyhow, about a week ago, he starts telling me how he told off a female co-worker the day before (on my day off), and I was stunned. Not because he told somebody off, but because he and that female co-worker are normally very close. When I inquired about it, he said, "...plus that was the anniversary of what happened with my mother, so I was in a bad mood already". Well, he and I are friendly enough so I could ask him personal questions (I have shared a lot of personal information about my own life situations with him in the past), and when I inquired about his mother, I could not believe what he told me. Sixteen years ago, when he and his mother were living in Brooklyn, NY, his mother's ex-boyfriend (I have no idea what happened to his father) showed up at his aunt's house, and shot her while trying to kill her. His gunshot hit her in her arm, and she ran behind a car while making her way back towards the house. When he heard the gunshot, he ran outside to protect his mother, and her boyfriend shot him twice. Once in his arm, and once in his side. When his mother heard and saw what was happening, she ran back toward her son to protect him, and her boyfriend gunned her down in cold blood and killed her right in front of her son/my co-worker. Her ex-boyfriend fled the scene, and committed suicide later that day.

If that is not horrific enough, he went on to tell me that he has to appear in court this coming Monday because one of his cousins, who he and his wife allowed to live with them for years, had been sexually molesting his daughter between the ages of 7 through 14. This coming Monday, sentencing for his cousin will take place in court.

Having heard these types of things, I can certainly understand where his anger issues are coming from.

Anyhow, my point is that we never really know what people are going through until we really get to know the people themselves. With such being the case, again, I would encourage you to try to make some sort of inroads into your co-workers lives, and then proceed from there.
Very true.
Always consider what that soul could be going through.
 

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Just bite your tongue and don't say anything. I assume you're there to do a job, so do it and don't make waves. Making waves isn't for the workplace.

"Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom." James 3:13
 
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FollowingtheWay

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Just bite your tongue and don't say anything. I assume you're there to do a job, so do it and don't make waves. Making waves isn't for the workplace.

"Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom." James 3:13
Yea I been doing that whole silent thing for years. It’s not working. They would even call me “Christian” and joke prior to my conversion because of my vague sense of morality by not engaging conversation with them. If I ignore they lay it on heavier. I simply wind up being temped, after so much of it my mind begins to be polluted by their perverse thoughts. There is nowhere to run I’ve went through 4 sets of ear speakers simply wearing them 9hour days. I’ve had them invade my workspace. Literally seek me out to to tell me these filthy things or tell filthy jokes in front of me while I’m working, loud enough for a whole building to hear. I even had Satan use one individual to tempt me. It was entirely too coincidental to be anything else. Some 22 year old kid shows up with a coffee mug with women models on it. Vintage cup. Had to be something from the 1980s. Something that should have been long gone, thrown away in a landfill somewhere. It wasn’t enough he was drinking from it . Ow no, he wanted to come to me and make it a point to show me what a cool cup he got, literally waving it in the face of a guy who struggles with lust. I mean, are you kidding me? This kid also convinced he was saved, was Pentecostal and claims at the same time his wife uses Chakras and crystals. Satan was using that young man to harass me and had him deceived.