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The beast will represent every MAN-MADE tradition and customs of every religion that make void the word of God. You say people who worship (the image of) the beast will be forced to take the mark of the beast. The number of the beast is 666, that is the number of man. Those who love their traditions more than they love obeying God are the end-time targets of God's wrath.

Do you love the image or physical cross? The sign of death. Many Christian identifies with the cross as the instrument that killed Christ. Isn't it interesting that during Hitler's rampage that the Jews were made to wear the star of David? The Christ killers? They were "marked" by that symbol. Could it be the tatoo/MARK of the beast is a cross? Meanwhile, God says His MARK is the Sabbath(s).

Love Christmas trees? 1/3 of the trees are burnt. What happens when the trees are burning, it spreads like wild fire and engulfs homes, and destroys all material possessions and infrastructures. I've heard it said that if you pay taxes on your property, that you don't really own it. These fires cause more famines and livestock to die and crops of foods to burn up. Self efficiency goes out the window, even if you live in rural areas, God's wrath will touch everyone and everything that does not FEAR GOD.

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. "chi xi stigma"
What is the chi symbol? Chi (uppercase/lowercase Χ χ) is the 22nd letter of the Greek alphabet. It is used to represent the “ch” sound (as in Scottish “loch” or German “Bauch”) in Ancient and Modern Greek. In the system of Greek numerals, it has a value of 600. Letters that came from it include the Roman X and Cyrillic Х.
What is the Xi symbol?
Xi
is the fourteenth letter of the Greek alphabet (uppercase Ξ, lowercase ξ; Greek: ξι), representing the voiceless consonant cluster IPA: [ks]. Its name is pronounced [ksi] in Modern Greek, and generally /zaɪ/ or /ksaɪ/ in English.[1] In the system of Greek numerals, it has a value of 60. Xi was derived from the Phoenician letter samekh
. Xi is distinct from the letter chi, which gave its form to the Latin letter X.

So chi represents the "X" and xi looks like the "X".

stigma (n.)
1590s (earlier stigme, c. 1400), "mark made on skin by burning with a hot iron," from Latin stigma (plural stigmata), from Greek stigma (genitive stigmatos) "mark of a pointed instrument, puncture, tattoo-mark, brand," which is related to stizein "to mark, tattoo" (from PIE root *steig- "to stick; pointed" (see stick (v.)).

I have a friend for the longest time celebrated the cross in many decorative forms and hung in a large grouping on one of the walls in her living room. I think alot of people love the symbol or idolize the symbol. Worn as a necklace or charm bracelets or even tattooed somewhere on their own skin. Constantine used the "cross" to put on his miliary force chests. So, yea, the love of the cross as a charm or as a symbol of Christianity has been around for a very long time. 1691690099410.jpeg 1691690118702.jpeg

I can picture something like this Brazilian statue being set up in Jerusalem on Mount Golgotha and have a mouth that speaks and being called the Abomination of Desolation. And many will travel to see this and love it, and perhaps the tattoo booths are nearby. "Get your favorite cross tattoo today, and you will be part of the club, buying and selling whatever you desire."

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The word "tradition" in the New Testament is the Greek word "paradosis". The word "tradition" does not appear in the Old Testament.

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Beware of traditions that make void the word of God.
 

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#42
A generation sure is a long time in this dispensational theology. :unsure:

Now Margaret MacDonald who had those feverish visions in 1830 of the endtimes was so fortunate to have John Nelson Darby around so he could carry on the fever for almost two hundred years, I would say that is a very good run indeed and we are still connecting all the dots,

And aren't we so thankful to have Scofield popularize these dispensational views.

So now rather than ....."The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ."

We have "The Book of Speculation."

I have been very plain in my speech. I'm on break so I'm sorry if I don't have time to go off on the dispensational rabbit trail today.
I'm no longer a dispensationalist.
My response to your reference about Mondex is that I do not recall the name of that company, device or whatever it is. Likewise it sounds like you might not be familiar with the latest rollout of 2 billionaire's latest. Elon Musk has promoted something that is not a microchip. It is however an implantable device consisting of fine strands of wires that are surgically inserted throughout the brain.
The one that Bill Gates has patented is an electronic tattoo that goes into the back of the hand. If you want more details and want to get up to speed, please refer to the first pages of my thread, link above. I have links to all of this.
Have a good day
 

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A generation sure is a long time in this dispensational theology. :unsure:

Now Margaret MacDonald who had those feverish visions in 1830 of the endtimes was so fortunate to have John Nelson Darby around so he could carry on the fever for almost two hundred years, I would say that is a very good run indeed and we are still connecting all the dots,

And aren't we so thankful to have Scofield popularize these dispensational views.

So now rather than ....."The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ."

We have "The Book of Speculation."
I went back and reread our part of the thread and maybe see what you mean by the reference now about Darby/ Scofield. Their theories certainly do cast shade on Revelation don't they? I've been told a few different ones and bought into it a while until I saw the agenda and spent a long time studying out dispensational theology in light of the clear Scriptures.

Anyhow, I don't know it all when it comes to end times Bible prophecy. It's just that we live in a time when the tech is available. I understand that many used to think the Socialist Security number and later the bar code was possibly the mark of the beast. There's been much speculation, however, when so many world powers embrace the Number as well as promote one world monetary system, it seems to be coming together.

For future reference, the 666 Mark of the Beast Tech is Ready to be Rolled Out thread
can be found in the Conspiracy Forum.
 

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It was/is not at 'miraculous' as you might think - and, was brought about by the same 'elite' you mention here.

It was/is just another 'milestone'/'step' in the 'illuminati' agenda - to help bring about the NWO - believe-it-or-not...

While it has some historical significance, it is not a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. (At least, not the 'dry bones' prophecy.)
Sorry I was being facetious about "miraculous" ... we need a facetious emoji I guess.

Isn't it ironic how Christians go on about the Illuminati and they have fallen in the biggest Illuminati trap of all time...that being the "end times."

Yes, it was significant because it was the center upon which all all modern day "signs" could be built.
 

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I'm no longer a dispensationalist.
Excellent! :)

All the rest is true, I do agree we have a concerted effort to bring about the ultimate monetary control.
Its just not the mark of the beast.
 

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I went back and reread our part of the thread and maybe see what you mean by the reference now about Darby/ Scofield. Their theories certainly do cast shade on Revelation don't they? I've been told a few different ones and bought into it a while until I saw the agenda and spent a long time studying out dispensational theology in light of the clear Scriptures.

Anyhow, I don't know it all when it comes to end times Bible prophecy. It's just that we live in a time when the tech is available. I understand that many used to think the Socialist Security number and later the bar code was possibly the mark of the beast. There's been much speculation, however, when so many world powers embrace the Number as well as promote one world monetary system, it seems to be coming together.

For future reference, the 666 Mark of the Beast Tech is Ready to be Rolled Out thread
can be found in the Conspiracy Forum.
I so appreciate that at least you are open to the corruption that began this whole debacle.

I know things look really bad right now but everything runs in cycles, societies have come to ruin many times and there has always been a shift in global powers.

Things could get very bad for us in the west, or maybe not, time will tell... but I am pretty sure it is not prophetic.
 

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I have been very plain in my speech. I'm on break so I'm sorry if I don't have time to go off on the dispensational rabbit trail today.
I'm no longer a dispensationalist.
My response to your reference about Mondex is that I do not recall the name of that company, device or whatever it is. Likewise it sounds like you might not be familiar with the latest rollout of 2 billionaire's latest. Elon Musk has promoted something that is not a microchip. It is however an implantable device consisting of fine strands of wires that are surgically inserted throughout the brain.
The one that Bill Gates has patented is an electronic tattoo that goes into the back of the hand. If you want more details and want to get up to speed, please refer to the first pages of my thread, link above. I have links to all of this.
Have a good day
That is a neural link, a must have.

You become very powerful with a neural link.
 

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Excellent! :)

All the rest is true, I do agree we have a concerted effort to bring about the ultimate monetary control.
Its just not the mark of the beast.
The control of the financial world is critical for all governments.

Taxation will be one of the driving forces behind digital currency.

It will get rid of the black market, people taking cash for work done and not paying tax.

If all these folk don't pay tax, where does the govt get the tax it needs?
 

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That is a neural link, a must have.

You become very powerful with a neural link.
Old Scifi used to call the people who used it in their stories," wire heads."
The Matrix made it look "cool" just download for five minutes and Neo is a Kung Fu master.
Elon used the devils idea to design Neurolink.
I think that he's having trouble selling the idea now
 

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THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS....
Understanding WHO IS the beast (THE ANTICHRIST) is important and you said we have not been given knowledge but without speculating there are many identifying things.
Let's go to Daniel chapter 7.
A vision of time and nations.

Beasts represent kingdoms and powers.
Dan 7:23.
Sea or waters represent people, multitudes, nations and tougnes. Rev 17:15.

Without going into detail Dan 7 and Dan 8 expand on each other and give extra detail.

The first beast is Babylon. The second is the Medes and Persions, the Third is Greese the fourth is Rome, the 10 horns are the 10 kingdoms of western europe and the little horn is papal Rome. History backs this up. And all the symbols fit perfectly to these kingdoms.
Dan 2 is a good place to start.

“I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words” (Daniel 7:8).
Who is the little horn? The biblical characteristics identify it as the antichrist of prophecy and history. There must be no mistake in making this identification.

1.The little horn would come “up among them”—that is, from among the 10 horns that were the kingdoms of Western Europe (Daniel 7:8). So it would be a little kingdom somewhere in Western Europe.

2.It would have a man at its head who could speak for it (Daniel 7:8).

3.It would pluck out or uproot three kingdoms (Daniel 7:8).

4.It would be different from the other 10 kingdoms (Daniel 7:24).

5.It would make war with and persecute the saints (Daniel 7:21, 25).

6.It would emerge from the pagan Roman Empire—the fourth kingdom (Daniel 7:7, 8).

7.God’s people (the saints) would “be given into his hand” for “a time and times and half a time” (Daniel 7:25).

8.It would “speak great words against” or blaspheme God (Daniel 7:25 KJV). In Revelation 13:5, the Bible says the same power speaks “great things and blasphemies.”

9.It would “intend to change times and law” (Daniel 7:25).

Don’t forget—all these identification points come directly from the Bible. They are not some human opinion or speculation. Historians could tell you quickly what power is being described, because these points fit only one power—the papacy.

Just to expand on some points.....

The Catholic emperor Zeno (474–491) arranged a treaty with the Ostrogoths in 487, which resulted in the eradication of the kingdom of the Arian Heruls in 493. And the Catholic emperor Justinian (527–565) exterminated the Arian Vandals in 534 and significantly broke the power of the Arian Ostrogoths in 538. Thus were Daniel’s three horns—the Heruls, the Vandals, and the Ostrogoths—‘plucked up by the roots.’ ”

“That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than any other institution that has ever existed among mankind, will be questioned by no Protestant who has a competent knowledge of history.”
W. E. H. Lecky, History of...... Volume 2, 40.

The saints would “be given into his hand” for “a time and times and half a time.”

A time = a year,
times = two years,
half a time = half of a year.
The Amplified Bible translates it: “Three and one-half years."

This same time period is mentioned seven times in the books of Daniel and Revelation (Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14; 13:5): three times as a “time, times, and half a time”; twice as 42 months; and twice as 1,260 days. Based on the 30-day calendar used by the Jews, these time periods are all the same amount of time: 3½ years = 42 months = 1,260 days.

One prophetic day equals one literal year (Ezekiel 4:6; Numbers 14:34).

Thus, the little horn (antichrist) was to have power over the saints for 1,260 prophetic days; that is, 1,260 literal years.
Who ruled for 1260 years?
The rule of the papacy began in ad 538, when the last of the three opposing Arian kingdoms was uprooted. Its rule continued until 1798 when Napoleon’s general, Berthier, took the pope captive with hopes of destroying both Pope Pius VI and the political power of the papacy. This period of time is an exact fulfillment of the 1,260-year prophecy. The blow was a deadly wound for the papacy, but that wound began to heal and continues healing today.

I could give many more details to confirm the identifying marks of the antichrist but history confirms them.

There is no doubt that the little horn power (the antichrist) of Daniel 7 is the papacy. No other organization fits all nine points. And, incidentally, this is not a new teaching. Every Protestant Reformer, without exception, spoke of the papacy as antichrist.
 

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Understanding WHO IS the beast (THE ANTICHRIST) is important and you said we have not been given knowledge but without speculating there are many identifying things.
Let's go to Daniel chapter 7.
A vision of time and nations.

Beasts represent kingdoms and powers.
Dan 7:23.
Sea or waters represent people, multitudes, nations and tougnes. Rev 17:15.

Without going into detail Dan 7 and Dan 8 expand on each other and give extra detail.

The first beast is Babylon. The second is the Medes and Persions, the Third is Greese the fourth is Rome, the 10 horns are the 10 kingdoms of western europe and the little horn is papal Rome. History backs this up. And all the symbols fit perfectly to these kingdoms.
Dan 2 is a good place to start.

“I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words” (Daniel 7:8).
Who is the little horn? The biblical characteristics identify it as the antichrist of prophecy and history. There must be no mistake in making this identification.

1.The little horn would come “up among them”—that is, from among the 10 horns that were the kingdoms of Western Europe (Daniel 7:8). So it would be a little kingdom somewhere in Western Europe.

2.It would have a man at its head who could speak for it (Daniel 7:8).

3.It would pluck out or uproot three kingdoms (Daniel 7:8).

4.It would be different from the other 10 kingdoms (Daniel 7:24).

5.It would make war with and persecute the saints (Daniel 7:21, 25).

6.It would emerge from the pagan Roman Empire—the fourth kingdom (Daniel 7:7, 8).

7.God’s people (the saints) would “be given into his hand” for “a time and times and half a time” (Daniel 7:25).

8.It would “speak great words against” or blaspheme God (Daniel 7:25 KJV). In Revelation 13:5, the Bible says the same power speaks “great things and blasphemies.”

9.It would “intend to change times and law” (Daniel 7:25).

Don’t forget—all these identification points come directly from the Bible. They are not some human opinion or speculation. Historians could tell you quickly what power is being described, because these points fit only one power—the papacy.

Just to expand on some points.....

The Catholic emperor Zeno (474–491) arranged a treaty with the Ostrogoths in 487, which resulted in the eradication of the kingdom of the Arian Heruls in 493. And the Catholic emperor Justinian (527–565) exterminated the Arian Vandals in 534 and significantly broke the power of the Arian Ostrogoths in 538. Thus were Daniel’s three horns—the Heruls, the Vandals, and the Ostrogoths—‘plucked up by the roots.’ ”

“That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than any other institution that has ever existed among mankind, will be questioned by no Protestant who has a competent knowledge of history.”
W. E. H. Lecky, History of...... Volume 2, 40.

The saints would “be given into his hand” for “a time and times and half a time.”

A time = a year,
times = two years,
half a time = half of a year.
The Amplified Bible translates it: “Three and one-half years."

This same time period is mentioned seven times in the books of Daniel and Revelation (Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14; 13:5): three times as a “time, times, and half a time”; twice as 42 months; and twice as 1,260 days. Based on the 30-day calendar used by the Jews, these time periods are all the same amount of time: 3½ years = 42 months = 1,260 days.

One prophetic day equals one literal year (Ezekiel 4:6; Numbers 14:34).

Thus, the little horn (antichrist) was to have power over the saints for 1,260 prophetic days; that is, 1,260 literal years.
Who ruled for 1260 years?
The rule of the papacy began in ad 538, when the last of the three opposing Arian kingdoms was uprooted. Its rule continued until 1798 when Napoleon’s general, Berthier, took the pope captive with hopes of destroying both Pope Pius VI and the political power of the papacy. This period of time is an exact fulfillment of the 1,260-year prophecy. The blow was a deadly wound for the papacy, but that wound began to heal and continues healing today.

I could give many more details to confirm the identifying marks of the antichrist but history confirms them.

There is no doubt that the little horn power (the antichrist) of Daniel 7 is the papacy. No other organization fits all nine points. And, incidentally, this is not a new teaching. Every Protestant Reformer, without exception, spoke of the papacy as antichrist.
How do you explain the following verse.

Revelation 17:16
And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the prostitute and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire.

The beast (antichrist) hates the harlot (Catholic church), yet you say, the beast is the pope?

How can the pope hate the Catholic church, when the beast is the Catholic church?

By the way, who is the false prophet?
 
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Understanding WHO IS the beast (THE ANTICHRIST) is important and you said we have not been given knowledge but without speculating there are many identifying things.
Let's go to Daniel chapter 7.
A vision of time and nations.

Beasts represent kingdoms and powers.
Dan 7:23.
Sea or waters represent people, multitudes, nations and tougnes. Rev 17:15.

Without going into detail Dan 7 and Dan 8 expand on each other and give extra detail.

The first beast is Babylon. The second is the Medes and Persions, the Third is Greese the fourth is Rome, the 10 horns are the 10 kingdoms of western europe and the little horn is papal Rome. History backs this up. And all the symbols fit perfectly to these kingdoms.
Dan 2 is a good place to start.

“I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words” (Daniel 7:8).
Who is the little horn? The biblical characteristics identify it as the antichrist of prophecy and history. There must be no mistake in making this identification.

1.The little horn would come “up among them”—that is, from among the 10 horns that were the kingdoms of Western Europe (Daniel 7:8). So it would be a little kingdom somewhere in Western Europe.

2.It would have a man at its head who could speak for it (Daniel 7:8).

3.It would pluck out or uproot three kingdoms (Daniel 7:8).

4.It would be different from the other 10 kingdoms (Daniel 7:24).

5.It would make war with and persecute the saints (Daniel 7:21, 25).

6.It would emerge from the pagan Roman Empire—the fourth kingdom (Daniel 7:7, 8).

7.God’s people (the saints) would “be given into his hand” for “a time and times and half a time” (Daniel 7:25).

8.It would “speak great words against” or blaspheme God (Daniel 7:25 KJV). In Revelation 13:5, the Bible says the same power speaks “great things and blasphemies.”

9.It would “intend to change times and law” (Daniel 7:25).

Don’t forget—all these identification points come directly from the Bible. They are not some human opinion or speculation. Historians could tell you quickly what power is being described, because these points fit only one power—the papacy.

Just to expand on some points.....

The Catholic emperor Zeno (474–491) arranged a treaty with the Ostrogoths in 487, which resulted in the eradication of the kingdom of the Arian Heruls in 493. And the Catholic emperor Justinian (527–565) exterminated the Arian Vandals in 534 and significantly broke the power of the Arian Ostrogoths in 538. Thus were Daniel’s three horns—the Heruls, the Vandals, and the Ostrogoths—‘plucked up by the roots.’ ”

“That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than any other institution that has ever existed among mankind, will be questioned by no Protestant who has a competent knowledge of history.”
W. E. H. Lecky, History of...... Volume 2, 40.

The saints would “be given into his hand” for “a time and times and half a time.”

A time = a year,
times = two years,
half a time = half of a year.
The Amplified Bible translates it: “Three and one-half years."

This same time period is mentioned seven times in the books of Daniel and Revelation (Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14; 13:5): three times as a “time, times, and half a time”; twice as 42 months; and twice as 1,260 days. Based on the 30-day calendar used by the Jews, these time periods are all the same amount of time: 3½ years = 42 months = 1,260 days.

One prophetic day equals one literal year (Ezekiel 4:6; Numbers 14:34).

Thus, the little horn (antichrist) was to have power over the saints for 1,260 prophetic days; that is, 1,260 literal years.
Who ruled for 1260 years?
The rule of the papacy began in ad 538, when the last of the three opposing Arian kingdoms was uprooted. Its rule continued until 1798 when Napoleon’s general, Berthier, took the pope captive with hopes of destroying both Pope Pius VI and the political power of the papacy. This period of time is an exact fulfillment of the 1,260-year prophecy. The blow was a deadly wound for the papacy, but that wound began to heal and continues healing today.

I could give many more details to confirm the identifying marks of the antichrist but history confirms them.

There is no doubt that the little horn power (the antichrist) of Daniel 7 is the papacy. No other organization fits all nine points. And, incidentally, this is not a new teaching. Every Protestant Reformer, without exception, spoke of the papacy as antichrist.

Hello,

for clarity...I meant by post that THE SPECIFIC NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL AT THE TIME OF HIS RISE
 

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#53
Not every beast = the papacy.
A beast is prophetic for a power or kingdom.
There will come a time when the papacy will be seen for it's lies and deceptions, it will stand naked and those that have been deceived will hate her.

The Catholic church already recieved a deadly wound from France when the protestant reformation revealed the truth. But she (the papacy) has been healing.

Rev 13:1-4 is the papacy
Verse 11 another beast come from the earth.

They all follow the papacy until it's too late.
 

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Blessings and love always. I have a thought, more a question. Is it not written that great Whore has names all over her. I believe these are her daughters. Are her daughters not the legion of apostate assemblies comprising the abounding apostasy which began, even at the time of the Twelve and of Paul?
 

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Blessings and love always. I have a thought, more a question. Is it not written that great Whore has names all over her. I believe these are her daughters. Are her daughters not the legion of apostate assemblies comprising the abounding apostasy which began, even at the time of the Twelve and of Paul?
The apostasy goes right back.
Every sin is an apostasy, but Babylon has passed on lots of evil traditions to each power and pagan Rome passed them on to papal Rome which is still practicing them today. The traditions of the Catholic church are often founded in apostate idol worship and lots of those teaching are practiced by protestant churches today.

Rev 17:4-5 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
 

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#56
Not every beast = the papacy.
A beast is prophetic for a power or kingdom.
There will come a time when the papacy will be seen for it's lies and deceptions, it will stand naked and those that have been deceived will hate her.

The Catholic church already recieved a deadly wound from France when the protestant reformation revealed the truth. But she (the papacy) has been healing.

Rev 13:1-4 is the papacy
Verse 11 another beast come from the earth.

They all follow the papacy until it's too late.
So who is the second beast with the two horns?

Revelation 13:11-12
Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.

Who is the harlot that rides the beast?
 

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So who is the second beast with the two horns?

Revelation 13:11-12
Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.

Who is the harlot that rides the beast?
Okay. The second beast mentioned, the one with two horns like a lamb that speaks like a dragon is Satan, the Antichrist. The first beast is the one-world system—Babylon (also referred to as the whore or harlot).
 

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And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

- Revelation 9:4 (KJV)

In the scripture above, take note of who is protected —only those who have the Seal of God in their foreheads and are knowledgeable of the Scriptures.

It's really quite simple: if you don't have the Seal of God in your forehead, this must mean you have the Seal of Satan in your forehead, which is the mark of the beast. You either belong to Christ, the Son of God and have His Word, His seal in your mind, or you belong to Satan and have his word, his seal (mark) in your mind.
 

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Okay. The second beast mentioned, the one with two horns like a lamb that speaks like a dragon is Satan, the Antichrist. The first beast is the one-world system—Babylon (also referred to as the whore or harlot).
Nice try.

The Red Dragon is Satan.

Revelation 13:3-4
I saw one of his heads as if it had been fatally wounded, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast; they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?”

So the false prophet cannot be Satan (Red Dragon).

The Beast and the False Prophet hate the Harlot and destroy the Harlot.

Therefore, the Harlot cannot be the world system.

The Harlot represents a geographical location, a country, a city.
 

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And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

- Revelation 9:4 (KJV)

In the scripture above, take note of who is protected —only those who have the Seal of God in their foreheads and are knowledgeable of the Scriptures.

It's really quite simple: if you don't have the Seal of God in your forehead, this must mean you have the Seal of Satan in your forehead, which is the mark of the beast. You either belong to Christ, the Son of God and have His Word, His seal in your mind, or you belong to Satan and have his word, his seal (mark) in your mind.
You omitted that the mark can be be on the forearm or hand.

You cannot buy or sell without the mark. So the mark may be a form of identification.