THE "MARK" WHO WHAT WHEN....

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THE MARK OF THE BEAST......

1.CAN IT BE TAKEN ACCIDENTALLY?

[Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

gleaning from this very popular passage we can determine a couple of things.

1.SPECIFICALLY THE WHO is implementing the mark
2. THE WHY it is being implemented
3. A LESSER DEGREE WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS....

THE WHY...

Currently the world is heading in the direction of a implanted CHIP in order to conduct business (BUY OR SELL) in fact inside of the next few years (if not sooner) the USA will eliminate cash and go chip only....should we partake of this strange new system? could this be the mark? understandably caution is warranted, however that being said... at this moment in time IT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST.....does it bare watching and being prudent yes...but like many other recent GOVERNMENT programs... covid and other vaccines etc....they are merely a conditioning agent......we can see over the last several years A drive to dependence on GOVERNMENT.....

The why...is stated in the above passage.....SO THAT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL...but who is the NO ONE in question? WE SEE clearly every man woman and child on earth is the subject of the mark, but what is the REASON it is rolled out?
IT IS ROLLED OUT TO FERRET OUT TRUE BELIEVERS.......DUE TO THEIR CONTINUED REBELLION OF a/c's authority.

UNLESS something dramatic occurs prior to the mandate for CHIP ONLY COMMERCE... IT IS NOT THE MARK!! that being said it is once again a conditioning method.for complete government dependence.

It is by necessity, only a precursor to what the a/c will do...my guess, and that only, there will be a SECOND CHIP demanded for the purposes mentioned above.

THE WHEN...

It by scriptural evidence has to occur after the a/c has been revealed....and is in full power. we absolutely know that, that is not the case as of yet.....

[Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

An angelic messenger will be seen and heard through the entire world that the mark is about to be doled out and A STERN WARNING TO ALL MANKIND NOT TO TAKE IT....TRUE BELIEVERS WILL KNOW AND HEED THE ANGEL, unbelievers will scoff and accept it with gladness...thus sealing their eternal fate.....and we can see how GOD responds to their rebellion in

[2Th 2:11-12 NASB95] 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

in closing, be a good watchman but do not fear those of us who are here at the time...will NOT FALTER or be TRICKED GOD HAS OUR BACKS!!!!!

THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!!!!
Clarence
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#3
THE MARK OF THE BEAST......

1.CAN IT BE TAKEN ACCIDENTALLY?

[Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

gleaning from this very popular passage we can determine a couple of things.

1.SPECIFICALLY THE WHO is implementing the mark
2. THE WHY it is being implemented
3. A LESSER DEGREE WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS....

THE WHY...

Currently the world is heading in the direction of a implanted CHIP in order to conduct business (BUY OR SELL) in fact inside of the next few years (if not sooner) the USA will eliminate cash and go chip only....should we partake of this strange new system? could this be the mark? understandably caution is warranted, however that being said... at this moment in time IT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST.....does it bare watching and being prudent yes...but like many other recent GOVERNMENT programs... covid and other vaccines etc....they are merely a conditioning agent......we can see over the last several years A drive to dependence on GOVERNMENT.....

The why...is stated in the above passage.....SO THAT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL...but who is the NO ONE in question? WE SEE clearly every man woman and child on earth is the subject of the mark, but what is the REASON it is rolled out?
IT IS ROLLED OUT TO FERRET OUT TRUE BELIEVERS.......DUE TO THEIR CONTINUED REBELLION OF a/c's authority.

UNLESS something dramatic occurs prior to the mandate for CHIP ONLY COMMERCE... IT IS NOT THE MARK!! that being said it is once again a conditioning method.for complete government dependence.

It is by necessity, only a precursor to what the a/c will do...my guess, and that only, there will be a SECOND CHIP demanded for the purposes mentioned above.

THE WHEN...

It by scriptural evidence has to occur after the a/c has been revealed....and is in full power. we absolutely know that, that is not the case as of yet.....

[Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

An angelic messenger will be seen and heard through the entire world that the mark is about to be doled out and A STERN WARNING TO ALL MANKIND NOT TO TAKE IT....TRUE BELIEVERS WILL KNOW AND HEED THE ANGEL, unbelievers will scoff and accept it with gladness...thus sealing their eternal fate.....and we can see how GOD responds to their rebellion in

[2Th 2:11-12 NASB95] 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

in closing, be a good watchman but do not fear those of us who are here at the time...will NOT FALTER or be TRICKED GOD HAS OUR BACKS!!!!!

THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!!!!
Clarence

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Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.

H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw’, to-raw’
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

Deuteronomy 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Deuteronomy 11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

If you have the LORD's sign on your hand and on your forehead, is there any room to be misled and to take the anti-christ's marks?

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

G3862
παράδοσις
paradosis = 666 in Greek gematria
par-ad’-os-is
From G3860; transmission, that is, (concretely) a precept; specifically the Jewish traditionary law: - ordinance, tradition.++
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Paradosis/traditions that make void the word of the LORD.

1) believing that the Sabbath is done away with

2) not keeping the Feasts of the LOIRD, but instead keep man-made traditions like Easter and Christmas

3) also keeping Purim and Chanukah are man-made traditions

4) following the wrong calendar to know when the LORD's Feast Days are

The LORD's Feasts are for REHEARSALS to know and understand His prophetic events, because no prophetic event will happen that is not on His Days. (See Leviticus 23)
 

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Praise God, I am going home in His Great GRACE Departure! ♫ 😇 ↑

Won't be here. Amen.
Do you believe the last days are for later? If you are young maybe you will see him, our lord coming with glory. I just hope you are not ill. For certain we are in the last days i am certain, when? I have no clue but perhaps this generation. I was warned it is coming, prepare.

blessings
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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1.SPECIFICALLY THE WHO is implementing the mark

THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS....
This is incorrect. The Antichrist is not the one who will implement the mark of the beast, even though it will be his mark.

Revelation 13:11-18

"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

The mark of the beast will be implemented by "another beast" or another kingdom at that time, and not by "the first beast before him" or the Antichrist.
 

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Do you believe the last days are for later? If you are young maybe you will see him, our lord coming with glory. I just hope you are not ill. For certain we are in the last days i am certain, when? I have no clue but perhaps this generation. I was warned it is coming, prepare.

blessings
Precious friend, thanks, great question - I agree with "be prepared,"
but for what?:

I believe we are in the 'last days ( now )' of The Dispensation Of Grace,
Which Ends at our ( if we are 'still alive and remain' ) Great GRACE Departure!
Which is ( are we prepared? for ) our Judgment, In Heaven. This is according
to The Revelation Of The Mystery, for the Body Of Christ, which must be:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That Differ" (online)

Then, the 'last days ( later )' of the prophesied 70th Week of Daniel, for Israel
and the Unbelieving nations ( on the earth ), will resume with the "man of sin,
the son of Perdition, and the mark of the beast."

Please be Encouraged and Edified In The Lord Jesus Christ,
And In His Word of Truth, Rightly Divided.

Amen.
 
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A person cannot accidently take the mark of the beast for worship of the beast is prior to the mark being given, which the world will know what the beast's agenda is before they take the mark.

And his agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind but mankind can achieve peace on earth by their own technology, and devices, and they will evolve to be spiritual, and advance.

When the world takes the mark of the beast then salvation is no longer available to the world, and God will end sin on earth.

They will have the nature of a devil so they cannot be saved, and it cannot be reversed.

The mark of the beast will be the microchip for the mark has to do with technology which they will depend on to stop crime, and achieve peace in the beast system.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The image of the beast could be a huge television monitor located in the cities which the people have to bow down and worship that image.

No person can buy or sell anything without the mark for it is the one world economic system.

666 is the number of a man, a certain man who is the New Age Christ/antichrist.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

God said here is wisdom let he that has understanding count the number of the beast, and when it is broke down to 600, 60, and 6, it is 3 words.

So it cannot be the number 666 on a person for it does not take wisdom to understand that so it has to be more.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark is placed under something for it is to stick, prick, incised or punched, for recognition of ownership which is identification of the person, and is a mark of service to the beast.

Since the mark is being given to a person it will be placed under the skin, and not on top of the skin, which will be a microchip linked to satellite like the GPS tracking system for people.

The new age movement is paving the way for the New Age Christ who is of the occult, and will exalt himself above all that is called God, or is worshipped, and does not regard any god.

The new age movement follows Lucifer which they believe he gave mankind intelligence, and he is a god, and an alien, that wants to help mankind to evolve along with the New Age Christ who will be Lucifer inhabiting a human body, and advance as a species, which they talk about the return of the gods.

They have to convince the world that Lucifer and these aliens are good, and want to help mankind, which I believe they will convince people that there are hostile aliens that are against humans, and among us, and Lucifer and the aliens defeated them, and saved mankind to get the trust of the world so they will follow Lucifer.

Which you hear talk of hostile aliens being here, and America shot down 4 alien spaceships.

Also I read an article of aliens that stopped a nuclear war from happening which means they are good aliens.

United Nations Agenda 21, also known as Agenda 30 for the year 2030 which is when they want it implemented, is a sustainability act which 179 nations agreed to it in 1992.

One of the agendas is to move all people in to cities, and no development can happen outside of city limits.

They are working on population reduction to make it more easier to move them all in the cities by way of the LGBTQ community, transgender.

And influencing the children in school, and confusing them about their gender hoping they can get them to be a transgender.

Which American Girl Doll company has a book about becoming a transgender, and taking puberty blockers which would render them unable to have children when they are older.

Also they influence the children so they can cause them to be accepting of the Woke movement as they will pave the way to the new age movement.

Also to pervert the children so they care nothing about good morals, and Christianity, and the concept of a God.

When they place the people in the cities the people will be the police force of the cities, and if they commit a crime they will be an outcast of the city which they would not want that for the city to shun them so that will help to fight crime.

Also they will give the people a microchip placed under the skin linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene, and can track the actions of the people, which will cut out judges, lawyers, and the now known police force.

They want to get rid of the police force which is why they make them out to be bad, and like that BLM says defund the police, and Antifa that is a police force of the citizens that say they do not depend on cops.

That is why Democrats want the cities to be run down, and crime ridden, and want BLM to riot, and loot, and ransack stores, and burn buildings, and wreck cars, and go against the police to show that the police is not the best solution to stop crime.

When the people are placed in the cities on a world wide scale for Agenda 21 has been implemented the one world government will be a balance between democracy, and communism, and since it has communism traits people will only go by their needs, and no more wants.

The stimulus checks is probably a pattern for basic income which they have been talking about that happening on a world wide scale.

Everybody will be paid the same to meet their needs.

Anything that pollutes the air like factories, and gas powered vehicles will be no more.

Many jobs will be gone and the community will take care to beautify their city.

They will probably not allow junk food, and cigarettes, and alcohol, and anything that damages a persons health where they have to have tended to by medical professionals because they are not going to deal with that.

All guns will be gone which will make it easier to stop crime in the cities, and no more eating meat.

They will probably have many huge television monitors in the cities with the beast on it which would be an image of him, and the people have to bow down and worship the beast, which would be like years ago the people built statues of a god which would be a image of the god, and people bowed down to it, but this is by way a huge monitor instead of stone.

They will stop the coming together of a man and a woman for population reduction, and do not believe they have to keep the human race going by birth for they will evolve to be spiritual in which they will live forever.

Of course this is all the imagination of their mind.

The new age movement believes mind creates reality more real than the world of sense so they go by their imaginations, and they say it is all about people with no God above them.

At the flood the imaginations of their heart was evil continually doing what they wanted to do, and corrupted God's ways on earth, and violence filled the earth.

At the tower of Babel they said let us make a name for ourselves which they were saying it is all about people, and God said behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

They were going by their imaginations.

They are going to do it again with the new age movement going by their imaginations, and saying it is all about people and no God, which they are like the people of the flood, and the people of the tower of Babel combined.

That is why it is over because when they go only by the imaginations of their mind they do not acknowledge a God and only do what they want to do, but this time is over for God is going to end sin on earth.

The microchip is the mark of the beast, and part of his system to fight crime to achieve peace, and they will go against all people who oppose that system which is the great tribulation that will last for three and one half years, and then God will end sin on earth.

The new age movement, and New Age Christ, is of the occult, which the occult tries to tap in to nature to gain power which they believe they are evolving to be spiritual, and a god.

They talk about angel numbers, and the number 666 which they say is a good number according to the Cosmos which they want to convince the world to embrace that number which then they will have the power to transform the world to having peace, and evolving to be spiritual, and a god.

The occult believes in the power of numbers, and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers, which they believe will give them more power through nature.

6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature to evolve, and to establish his kingdom, and prosper.

That is where 666 comes in at.
 

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It is a one world govt/religion.
 

Magenta

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I was told we were in the last days when I was a teenager. Fifty years and many false predictions later, here we are still... in the Last Days.
We have been in the last days since Jesus walked this world...
 

Magenta

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Not everyone believes the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead are literal devices
or marks such as computer chips, vaccines, implants, bank cards, or anything similar, and
there are Scriptural reasons to believe they are not... much in the same way we would not
accept that just because people were trying to build the tower of Babel meant we think
they could have actually reached God that way, through their human means and/or effort,
or that the laws written on our hearts are literally etched/chiselled there.


The forehead very much represents a person's thinking and beliefs, out of which arise the
actions anyone takes and the things we do and what and/or who we serve with our hands.


Revelation 14:1 says, Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144, 000 who had His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.


Revelation 22:4 says: They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.

I believe the mark is meant to be symbolic of to Whom we have pledged our allegiance.

Deuteronomy 11:18 Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds;
tie them as reminders on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.


Deuteronomy 6:5-8 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Hebrews 10:16 “This is the covenant I will make with them after those days,
declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.”


And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel
of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in Him with a seal, the promised
Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those
who are God’s possession—to the praise of His glory. – Ephesians 1:13-14



Ephesians 1:13-14
:)
 

gb9

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Not everyone believes the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead are literal devices
or marks such as computer chips, vaccines, implants, bank cards, or anything similar, and
there are Scriptural reasons to believe they are not... much in the same way we would not
accept that just because people were trying to build the tower of Babel meant we think
they could have actually reached God that way, through their human means and/or effort,
or that the laws written on our hearts are literally etched/chiselled there.


The forehead very much represents a person's thinking and beliefs, out of which arise the
actions anyone takes and the things we do and what and/or who we serve with our hands.


Revelation 14:1 says, Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144, 000 who had His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.


Revelation 22:4 says: They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.

I believe the mark is meant to be symbolic of to Whom we have pledged our allegiance.

Deuteronomy 11:18 Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds;
tie them as reminders on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.


Deuteronomy 6:5-8 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Hebrews 10:16 “This is the covenant I will make with them after those days,
declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.”


And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel
of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in Him with a seal, the promised
Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those
who are God’s possession—to the praise of His glory. – Ephesians 1:13-14



Ephesians 1:13-14
:)
very good as usual.

i just read Deuteronomy recently, and had the same thoughts about those verses....
 
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when we think about it, most of the Prophecies are fulfilled and what's left, for the most part, don't actually involve us. And it's been this way for about 1/2 of a Generation. Technically Speaking, i think it's more about reaching the year 5,993. That leaves less than 10 years for the Great Falling Away to continue. need to pray that Sites where Believers can talk to one another will be accessible because they will be such a necessity leading closer to year 5,993. Believers can Strengthen One Another because the Church Buildings will be closing sooner than later.
 

Inquisitor

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THE MARK OF THE BEAST......

1.CAN IT BE TAKEN ACCIDENTALLY?

[Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

gleaning from this very popular passage we can determine a couple of things.

1.SPECIFICALLY THE WHO is implementing the mark
2. THE WHY it is being implemented
3. A LESSER DEGREE WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

THE WHO IS OBVIOUS , THE BEAST (Anti Christ) as commonly called.....which by necessity implies he is already in control of the world and has been fully revealed.As of yet we have not been given knowledge as to who this is and any guesses are mere speculation at this point.....HE WILL BE REVEALED BY ANGELIC MESSENGER TO BELIEVERS....

THE WHY...

Currently the world is heading in the direction of a implanted CHIP in order to conduct business (BUY OR SELL) in fact inside of the next few years (if not sooner) the USA will eliminate cash and go chip only....should we partake of this strange new system? could this be the mark? understandably caution is warranted, however that being said... at this moment in time IT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST.....does it bare watching and being prudent yes...but like many other recent GOVERNMENT programs... covid and other vaccines etc....they are merely a conditioning agent......we can see over the last several years A drive to dependence on GOVERNMENT.....

The why...is stated in the above passage.....SO THAT NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL...but who is the NO ONE in question? WE SEE clearly every man woman and child on earth is the subject of the mark, but what is the REASON it is rolled out?
IT IS ROLLED OUT TO FERRET OUT TRUE BELIEVERS.......DUE TO THEIR CONTINUED REBELLION OF a/c's authority.

UNLESS something dramatic occurs prior to the mandate for CHIP ONLY COMMERCE... IT IS NOT THE MARK!! that being said it is once again a conditioning method.for complete government dependence.

It is by necessity, only a precursor to what the a/c will do...my guess, and that only, there will be a SECOND CHIP demanded for the purposes mentioned above.

THE WHEN...

It by scriptural evidence has to occur after the a/c has been revealed....and is in full power. we absolutely know that, that is not the case as of yet.....

[Rev 13:16-17 NASB95] 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and [he provides] that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, [either] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

An angelic messenger will be seen and heard through the entire world that the mark is about to be doled out and A STERN WARNING TO ALL MANKIND NOT TO TAKE IT....TRUE BELIEVERS WILL KNOW AND HEED THE ANGEL, unbelievers will scoff and accept it with gladness...thus sealing their eternal fate.....and we can see how GOD responds to their rebellion in

[2Th 2:11-12 NASB95] 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

in closing, be a good watchman but do not fear those of us who are here at the time...will NOT FALTER or be TRICKED GOD HAS OUR BACKS!!!!!

THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!!!!
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If you read the following passage from Revelation, it appears that the false prophet is the one in charge.

Revelation 13:11
Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. 12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the presence of people. 14 And he deceives those who live on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who live on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15 And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause all who do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads.

The false prophet is pulling all the strings.

The false prophet has you killed if you do not worship THE IMAGE of the beast.

The false prophet imposes the mark of the beast.
 

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Not everyone believes the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead are literal devices
or marks such as computer chips, vaccines, implants, bank cards, or anything similar, and
there are Scriptural reasons to believe they are not... much in the same way we would not
accept that just because people were trying to build the tower of Babel meant we think
they could have actually reached God that way, through their human means and/or effort,
or that the laws written on our hearts are literally etched/chiselled there.


The forehead very much represents a person's thinking and beliefs, out of which arise the
actions anyone takes and the things we do and what and/or who we serve with our hands.


Revelation 14:1 says, Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144, 000 who had His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.


Revelation 22:4 says: They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.

I believe the mark is meant to be symbolic of to Whom we have pledged our allegiance.

Deuteronomy 11:18 Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds;
tie them as reminders on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.


Deuteronomy 6:5-8 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Hebrews 10:16 “This is the covenant I will make with them after those days,
declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.”


And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel
of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in Him with a seal, the promised
Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those
who are God’s possession—to the praise of His glory. – Ephesians 1:13-14



Ephesians 1:13-14
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The only problem you have with this interpretation is the following verse.

Revelation 13:17
And he decrees that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

This mark appears to be a physical mark not a spiritual mark. You cannot buy or sell without the mark.
 

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Do you believe the last days are for later? If you are young maybe you will see him, our lord coming with glory. I just hope you are not ill. For certain we are in the last days i am certain, when? I have no clue but perhaps this generation. I was warned it is coming, prepare.

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I agree with you. Ten years ago, I could not see any fulfillment in eschatology that was plausible.

Yet, with an abrupt climate change that seems to be increasing rapidly. We may see the fulfillment in our generation.

Luke 21:25
There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, people fainting from fear and the expectation of the things that are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Huge swells from massive low pressure systems are not too far off.

Increasing dust levels in the atmosphere from landscapes devoid of grass and trees.

Increasing dust in the atmosphere combined with a higher level of moisture in the atmosphere. Then a darkened daytime sky and a blood red moon at night.

Not too long to go now.
 
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If you read the following passage from Revelation, it appears that the false prophet is the one in charge.

Revelation 13:11
Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. 12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the presence of people. 14 And he deceives those who live on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who live on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15 And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause all who do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads.

The false prophet is pulling all the strings.

The false prophet has you killed if you do not worship THE IMAGE of the beast.

The false prophet imposes the mark of the beast.
The point of the post, was'nt / isn't to determine who commands it, it was the reason behind it as opposed to the soon rollout of the commerce chip ..., Ive encountered many people with many ideas and FEARS I wanted to give some clarity on what the mark is in general..... A SPECIFIC MARK, BY A SPECIFIC PERSON, FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE....