Are gifts evidence of salvation?
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The gifts served a unique purpose in the early church at that early Christian time and are no longer necessary nor are the apostles here to pass them on since they were made manifest by the laying on of their hands. We no longer need piece meal gifts, we have the complete word of God today to guide us as the gifts did back then with mo written word. Tongues for instance, were necessary to convince the unbeliever as the church was growing and the word spreading to remote parts with different languages. Or necessary today, and Tongues are nothing like that today. They are a joke!
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The laying on of hands was passed to Church elders through the times. That didn’t end with the Apostle’s and I’m sure if you ask 3rd world missionaries they see God moving miraculously as they are still building the church. Ask them if they believe in cessation. That early church age continues today weather you accept that or not. I think you have added a timeline that isn’t there to the Bible . The early church and our age is one in the same. Our work in building up the church isn’t over we haven’t reached every people group yet. We are still the midst of the great commission.
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God works “through” men. Here is a high profile one. God heard prayers…. Exactly what a faith healer does…. A faith healer is praying that the manifest presence of God would come and act on a situation simply. “Ask and you shall receive” there is nothing selfish about true faith healing.
https://www2.cbn.com/news/us/bills-...pital-after-prayer-fueled-remarkable-recovery
https://www2.cbn.com/news/us/bills-...pital-after-prayer-fueled-remarkable-recovery
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If Jesus told the disciples to lay hands on the sick and they would recover and he is the same yesterday, today and forever then he can still operate through someone as his spirit instructs. No difference. I dont put God in a box and tell him who he is or how he acts, I let him tell me. I do agree though that there are many fakes.
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Yes it is! Jesus’ mission hasn’t changed. We are still tasked with the Great commission.
“Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.”
Hebrews 13:7-8 NIV
“Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.””
Matthew 28:18-20 NIV
“Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.”
Hebrews 13:7-8 NIV
“Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.””
Matthew 28:18-20 NIV
