I don't see that as cavalier at all... it's a pretty simple thing...
Of course I don't expect a new believer to know everything.... they are babies... what do babies know?
But, in order to be born, a baby has to do several things.... they have to "know" that it's time, they have to go through the birthing process, and they have to breathe when they arrive. The rest of "doing life" is learned as they grow and mature.
But if you do not instruct a new born Christian in what is necessary to be born, they might not survive the process....
If you tell a baby, all you have to do is survive the birthing process, you've likely risked their life. Sometimes they have to have their bottom slapped to get them to start breathing....
Newborn babies in Christ need to be told what they need to do.... putting your hand on the TV and saying "yes, I believe" is not all there is to it..... and telling people that is doing them a grave disservice. There is more to it than that, and scripture teaches us that, clearly.
Of course I don't expect a new believer to know everything.... they are babies... what do babies know?
But, in order to be born, a baby has to do several things.... they have to "know" that it's time, they have to go through the birthing process, and they have to breathe when they arrive. The rest of "doing life" is learned as they grow and mature.
But if you do not instruct a new born Christian in what is necessary to be born, they might not survive the process....
If you tell a baby, all you have to do is survive the birthing process, you've likely risked their life. Sometimes they have to have their bottom slapped to get them to start breathing....
Newborn babies in Christ need to be told what they need to do.... putting your hand on the TV and saying "yes, I believe" is not all there is to it..... and telling people that is doing them a grave disservice. There is more to it than that, and scripture teaches us that, clearly.
If I remember correctly, you are in agreement with those that think baptism is required for Salvation. Is that right?
Then you posted saying that this thread reminds of the kinda' talk at a shift-change... "all ya' gotta do is thus and such...", as though we're making things too easy and over-simplifying the Gospel; and instead, you ask: "Why do we not simply, willingly and lovingly do ALL that is taught in scripture?"
It's like you think "faith-alone" is too simple... so teach all of Scripture... to babes.
And now you seem to be saying that babies don't know anything and have to be taught how to be born? (which I've never heard!)
So, are you saying that the Gospel message should be as complicated as possible?
That all seems too incredible for me to believe that someone actually believes that?
Please clarify...