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maxwel

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Hey brother. I'm doing awesome thanks. Hope you are as well.
Am always glad to have your perspective. Half agreement from maxwel is like 200% agreement for some.
I think you misunderstood... I think we're at 100% agreement.
If you were to take a moment and define your particular view of "the world's philosophy", then as soon as you were to define it, we would agree.

I wasn't really arguing about anything... I just thought the semantic problem was interesting.
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proutled

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what would say to a transgender or gay person, that is really looking for salvation?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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what would say to a transgender or gay person, that is really looking for salvation?
I never met any looking for Salvation, but have witnessed to some. I tell them the same thing that I said to the guy in post #21 and to anyone.

Jeanette said:
I gave my life to the Lord at age 14, way after I first identified as a girl which was as a toddler.
But the Bible says if we dont repent we'll go to Hell. I repent every night and ask Him to forgive me.

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Jeanette,

I see that there's a much more important challenge that has yet to be answered.
I was asked once by someone who cared, "If you were to die today, are you 100% sure that you would go to heaven. I wasn't sure either.
That's because we are all sinners. The Bible tells us in Romans 6:23

" For the wages of sin is death..."

We deserve death and hell.
You gave your life to the Lord at 14.
Unfortunately, someone mistakenly told you that is how someone is saved. I have heard that preached too many times as well in churches I've attended.
There is a clear way to be forgiven now and forever..
I will post the following link(s) which will have the exact details from God's Word about this issue.
The good news is that the rest of that verse says,

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Here it is in a short video message and one more to make sure it's clear.

The GOOD News

The Good News, part 2

You are probably ready for God's grace and want that instead of judgement.
There is your answer.

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

 

Lynx

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It's the whole city full of Sodomites who intended to gang rape Lot to death.
Two of God's own angels did not say, just love them. Turn the other cheek. Jesus never said to do that to those freaks either. No, they struck them blind until Jesus burned them all with fire and brimstone from heaven.

It was a the Sodomites (another city of LGBTQP Fans,) who raped the poor concubine woman all night until she was dead.
Judges 19. You might want to read those sometime. Jesus gave the reference to Sodom for our admonition.


To compare the sins of the Sodomites, Rape and Murder, to a Little White Lie shows me that you spent too much time in a liberal church. Any pastor who teaches that all sins are equal, the entire church should run to the nearest exit and never return.
Comparing Sodom to modern culture is also a false comparison. Gang rape is illegal here.

The USA is more like Greek or Roman society, at the height of their hedonism, right before they crumbled. Wait, didn't Paul reach out in love a lot to those guys?
 

Lynx

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To compare the sins of the Sodomites, Rape and Murder, to a Little White Lie shows me that you spent too much time in a liberal church. Any pastor who teaches that all sins are equal, the entire church should run to the nearest exit and never return.
Also, either you have never been to my church or you have no idea what a liberal church is... Probably both. United Pentecostal Church is quite far from liberal. Gays pretty much hate us for not letting them sing and preach.
 

proutled

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What about it prouted?
Are you 100% sure if you will be in heaven when something happens to you ?
oh yes Im very sure of my salvation. because, it more than just repenting, its about having a relationship with God, walking in spirit and truth, Jesus came to save the world, not to comedon it, Jesus loves the sinners the not perfect people. we must study the word, and be doers of the the word, threw, faith in God, for we are over comers. we are over comers by the blood of the lamb.
 

proutled

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Dont get me wrong, I will wont shop at target, I see the devil trying to turn the minds of children in schools, the government wanting to taking control of the children, its getting crazy, its time for the church to fight back, we must remember, Ephesian's chap 6 10 put your armer of God, we will win this fight. all for the glory of God, remember we are in revival. God has the last word, God is holy, people hated Jesus, they will hate us to, thats ok. greater is he that is in me than the one is in the world, many people are being deceived . we the Chruch must be just like Jesus, ware the armer. walking in your calling,
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Comparing Sodom to modern culture is also a false comparison. Gang rape is illegal here.

The USA is more like Greek or Roman society, at the height of their hedonism, right before they crumbled. Wait, didn't Paul reach out in love a lot to those guys?
You are the one comparing the vile activities of sodomites to "Little White Lies."
There is a difference between degrees of sins.
 

proutled

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hello and good morning, we all must remember, Jesus is coming back to a bride, with out spot. blemish or Rinkel. we have just began to fight, things look grim right now, we go by faith not by sight, do go by the news, they don't tell the hole truth, stand on the word. and get into prayer, keep your eyes on Jesus, not the world. we are in the world, not of the world. there are some news channels that do tell the truth, you'll know , the ones that believe in free speech,
 

proutled

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hello and good morning, we all must remember, Jesus is coming back to a bride, with out spot. blemish or Rinkel. we have just began to fight, things look grim right now, we go by faith not by sight, do not go by the news, they don't tell the hole truth, stand on the word. and get into prayer, keep your eyes on Jesus, not the world. we are in the world, not of the world. there are some news channels that do tell the truth, you'll know , the ones that believe in free speech,
 

maxwel

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Hey brother. I'm doing awesome thanks. Hope you are as well.
One more thing:
The reason I was chatting with you about fiddly semantic issues was because...
the actual topic here is just ridiculous.

It's ridiculous that we need to have these kinds of conversations at all.

That being said, there is value in knowing how to parse through issues about which people are confused.
That's still valuable.
So although these conversations may be necessary... it just indicates we're in a ridiculous state.

God Bless Brother.
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Cameron143

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One more thing:
The reason I was chatting with you about fiddly semantic issues was because...
the actual topic here is just ridiculous.

It's ridiculous that we need to have these kinds of conversations at all.

That being said, there is value in knowing how to parse through issues about which people are confused.
That's still valuable.
So although these conversations may be necessary... it just indicates we're in a ridiculous state.

God Bless Brother.
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People going to the state of Ridiculous are simply moving from the state of Confusion. I haven't found them on the map yet but was told they are near the states of California and New York.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Also, either you have never been to my church or you have no idea what a liberal church is... Probably both. United Pentecostal Church is quite far from liberal. Gays pretty much hate us for not letting them sing and preach.
I am judging from your own testimony that you probably go to a liberal church.
You judge me like a couple others on the forum as being unloving as IF that is a GREATER SIN than pushing sodomy on the Target of the Target corporation. They are doing everything they can to get stupid and wicked mothers to indoctrinate their toddlers into sex with their own gender. The children don't even have a temptation there, yet the homos in the company are pushing their trashy agenda to normalize such wickedness. The trendy liberal "open minded" mom's go along. The only thing they are open to is the lusts of their own perversion and the devil plan.

I will admit the Target stores issue to be very low on any priority for God to deal with. It's His own people that He wants to walk with and get others saved. There's NO Scriptures that say that Christians should embrace the Sodomite agenda. There's LOTS written to the contrary.
 

proutled

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we are not to agree with them, the reasons about why I choose not to shop at target is also the designer is a devil worshipper its on the tags, we are to take a stand, do not embrace there agenda, but start pushing back, and put bibles back in schools, parents are fighting back, there more of us then them, we must start opening our mouths, and start draing the swamp.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Here's some African leaders view on the subject.
I do not have reason to believe that they are Christian, although they might be. These are simply the normal and common views of average men throughout history. It's only recently, with exception to the perverse cultures, that the Sodomitish perversions are publicly acceptable.

African Leaders say, We are NOT Gay!
 

Lynx

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Here's some African leaders view on the subject.
I do not have reason to believe that they are Christian, although they might be. These are simply the normal and common views of average men throughout history. It's only recently, with exception to the perverse cultures, that the Sodomitish perversions are publicly acceptable.

African Leaders say, We are NOT Gay!
Why do people keep saying the public acceptance of homosexuality is a recent thing? Greek, Roman, Sodomite, there have been many cultures in history where it became acceptable.

This is nothing new. It's just a repeating cycle.

What worries me is what always happened next. It seems homosexuality became commonly accepted right before their respective societies crumbled.

As I depend on the current society for my job, this concerns me... :-/
 

proutled

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Why do people keep saying the public acceptance of homosexuality is a recent thing? Greek, Roman, Sodomite, there have been many cultures in history where it became acceptable.

This is nothing new. It's just a repeating cycle.

What worries me is what always happened next. It seems homosexuality became commonly accepted right before their respective societies crumbled.

As I depend on the current society for my job, this concerns me... :-/
hello, maybe the reason why you there, is to be a light, the only way people are going to see Jesus, is threw you, remember they walk in darkness, your a man of God, show them the Jesus in you, this is a good opportunity, pray about it, what does the holy spirit tell you,?