Get 'er Holy Ghost.
Rodney Howard Brown, the so-called "Holy Ghost Bartender" used to say this. At his meetings, when he dispensed the "anointing," he'd say things like "Fill, fill, fill!" and "Git ‘em, Jesus, git ‘em, git ‘em, git ‘em!"
Get 'er Holy Ghost.
Since I know Mark 16 and Matthew 28, the Baptism parts, were ADDED later [we have PROOF] that means, Jesus DID NOT COMMAND to be Water Baptized. So, Water Baptism, comes from the Apostles. Since, Jesus, did not command for it, you have no point to make in this Discussion!Can you give me some scriptures that tell the purpose and reason for water baptism?
Wrong.
According to Acts 2:38-39, baptism in Jesus' Name is the condition to the fulfilling of a promise of remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Ghost.
who says they were added after?How come in these people in Acts 2 were not added to the church until they were baptized? It is because that is when they were forgiven of their sins and given the Holy Spirit.
Wayne
Since I know Mark 16 and Matthew 28, the Baptism parts, were ADDED later [we have PROOF] that means, Jesus DID NOT COMMAND to be Water Baptized. So, Water Baptism, comes from the Apostles. Since, Jesus, did not command for it, you have no point to make in this Discussion!
who says they were added after?
Acts 2:40-41 And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation!" 41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls.
It sure seems like the scriptures put added after they were baptized.
In Christ our Lord,
Wayne
Yes, one must be a true believer with the Holy Ghost in order for the promise to apply.
It appears that you are now falsely accusing me of being on the side of the false accuser.
All you had to say was that it doesn't irk you if someone is saved through baptism in Jesus' Name; and I would have taken your word for it.
But as it is, you are evading the question.
And it was a question, not a statement.
And therefore, not an accusation.
convict @Niki7, Holy Ghost.Just want to remind everyone of something that was spoken of earlier...
That in Acts 2:37-41, before they were actually baptized and after they repented, Peter told them to "be saved from this untoward generation".
Therefore, they were not saved before they were baptized; even if they did have faith and it was a believer's baptism.
God bless you.I "un-did" the "x" that I put on because I was acting on my carnal nature... striving against men who are opposed to the truth.
I laughed because your dishonesty seems to know no bounds.
You didn't just take away from God's word, you took away from it "for" and then added to it "because of".Your straw man argument below implies that I am taking away from God's word, which is dishonest and not Christ-like.
Just because I don't agree with your interpretation of Acts 2:38-39 does not mean that I plan on cutting those verses out of the Bible.
The Greek word “antitupon,” as used in I Peter 3: 21, is “an adjective, used as a noun,” and denotes, in the NT, “a corresponding type,” being “said of baptism.” “The circumstances of the flood, the ark and its occupants, formed a type, and baptism forms “a corresponding type,” each setting forth the spiritual realities of the death, burial, and resurrection of believers in their identification with Christ.According to 1 Peter 3:20-21 baptism is the antitype that now saves us. An antitype is not a type. It is the real thing. And, yes, without Jesus' sacrifice baptism would be meaningless.
I didn't say that you can't confess Christ apart from being baptized. I said that baptism is indeed a confession of Christ before men...even to the uttermost, no turning back.I can confess Christ without being baptized
Your Logic is a fallacy argument.
We confess Christ because of gratitude that he SAVED US.. not so we can be saved..
It is in chapter 3...just as verse 5 is in chapter 3 and also speaks of water baptism.Well your wrong. Because 22 through 26 occurred AFTER Jesus told Nicodemus HOW to be born again, in where he did not mention baptism
When Moses lifted the serpent on the rod. Did people have to get baptized to be saved? No. they were saved because they had faith
which is exactly what Jesus said
He who BELIEVES is not condemned
No baptism period (although baptism does occure. the baptism of the spirit)
Right. And I don't believe that it does. Therefore the English is reliable.once again, the english can not contradict the greek.
Not by themselves; but together, they do teach it.Neither Acts 2:39 or Romans 8:30 teach that baptism in Jesus' name is absolutely necessary for salvation.
You have not adequately answered my argument, sorry.Neither Acts 2:39 or Romans 8:30 teach that baptism in Jesus' name is absolutely necessary for salvation. In regards to the general call, Matthew 22:14 - Called (2282 - kletos) in Matthew 22:14 is talking about the general call of the gospel which goes out to all men every time the gospel is preached.
In the Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, we read <Adjective, 2822,kletos> "called, invited," is used, (a) "of the call of the Gospel," Matt. 20:16; 22:14, not there "an effectual call," as in the Epistles, Romans 1:1,6,7; 8:28; 1 Corinthians 1:2,24; Jude 1:1; Revelation 17:14; in Romans 1:7; 1 Corinthians 1:2 the meaning is "saints by calling;" (b) of "an appointment to apostleship," Romans 1:1; 1 Corinthians 1:1.
Called (2564 - kaleo) in Romans 8:30 conveys the idea of an effectual call and emphasizes God's sovereign work. There is a distinction between the called (klhtoi) and the chosen (eklektoi) called out from the called.
Romans 8:30 says ..whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. ALL of them. Notice how Paul uses the past tense for a future event to stress it's certainty.
You reject the rendering of the kjv then...your right it does
when we read as written
repent and you will receive the gift of the spirit. and let every one of you (singular) be baptized on the account of the fact you received remission of sin.,
Thats what it says..
Peter did not tell them to do a work of righteousness to be saved..
It does.It does not even speak of baptismal regeneration.
The Spirit is promised as the result of receiving baptism, read it correctly.because they repented as peter commanded them
we know this because they recieved his word and believed
41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.
It does not say they were baptised THEN they recieved the spirit..