Will Jesus "Second coming" present as a woman this time?

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studentoftheword

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The people who want God to be Female are called Feminist -----Folks ----

The women of this world have been fighting for equal rights with their male counterparts sine Eve was cursed in the Garden -----

One of Eve's Curses was this -----

Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

So ever since Eve's Curse to have a man rule over the woman -----WOMEN have been fighting to be equal to the man ---as women Feel inferior to the male species and they have to puff themselves and try to make themselves equal to the man ------all in vain I might add -----

So Here is the deal Folks ------until Jesus comes back and separates the Sheep from the Goats and bring an end to all curses and evil ----women will want God to be Female -----as they themselves feels slighted with the curse of male dominance ------

Born again Christians have no need to want Jesus to come back as a female as they are not under Eve's curse anymore ---they are under the Blessings of God and have no need to puff themselves up by needing dominance over any male as the women of this would do ------

We live in this World but We are not of this World any Longer ------God is our Male Father in Heaven and He will return in His Glorified Body as He was presented in this Would ---which is Male -----and as we all will present ourselves in our Glorified Bodies as we are in this world ------Male or Female ----none will change their Gender in their Glorified bodies ------

Changing one's gender is for this world only ----the person is called a Transgender -----

God gives us our gender at birth ---and that is how we will appear in our Glorified bodies ------in my view ---your transgenderism will disappear and you will be put back to the gender God made you -at birth -----

So women can try to be equal to men but their efforts will be for not -------till Jesus fixes this world
 

posthuman

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One of Eve's Curses was this -----
not a curse. a judgment, for her benefit.
likewise the toil of man is not a curse, but for his good.

we must not despise His chastening - it is proof we are His children.

neither Adam nor Woman was cursed by God. forgive my peevish insistence, but i will defend that point tooth & nail if need be - and presume you merely misspoke :)
 
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not a curse. a judgment, for her benefit.
likewise the toil of man is not a curse, but for his good.

we must not despise His chastening - it is proof we are His children.

neither Adam nor Woman was cursed by God. forgive my peevish insistence, but i will defend that point tooth & nail if need be - and presume you merely misspoke :)
Except to die, and pain in child birth.
 

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not a curse. a judgment, for her benefit.
likewise the toil of man is not a curse, but for his good.

we must not despise His chastening - it is proof we are His children.

neither Adam nor Woman was cursed by God. forgive my peevish insistence, but i will defend that point tooth & nail if need be - and presume you merely misspoke :)
(y)Yes.

The ground was cursed but Adam and Eve received a judgement and a sentence. Judgement is the establishment of what is true. Sentencing is a result of the judgement.
 

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not a curse. a judgment, for her benefit.
likewise the toil of man is not a curse, but for his good.

we must not despise His chastening - it is proof we are His children.

neither Adam nor Woman was cursed by God. forgive my peevish insistence, but i will defend that point tooth & nail if need be - and presume you merely misspoke :)
You may end up with dentures.
 

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And one ring to rule them all... oh wait, that's a different story
 
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"by" the Spirit.

That does not mean He has no body.

We are also made alive by the Spirit, but we are not disembodied because of it!
Jesus was always Holy Spirit. When he gave his body and blood as ransom he resurrected in his glorified state.
 
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It isn't the distinction between the Kingdom and the Kingdom but the distinction between inheriting the Life and entering it.

Christ intentionally proved to the disciples that He is physically risen, specifically that He is not a spirit:


Luke 24:39
Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself!
Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have!

the scripture here is also explicit here saying that believing He is not a risen body of flesh and bones is "unbelief"

He is either an intentional deceiver and a liar here, or He indeed has true flesh and bone
Your either or proposition regarding Jesus , because you don't understand the passages you're arguing against, is an offense to the scriptures.

Believe as you wish.
 
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I think there is this idea Jesus was resuscitated. :unsure:
Hard to say at this point.
I've not looked it up however I recall years ago hearing of a sect that teach Jesus was a man only. Not divine. And as such he was one chosen by God to work miracles on his behalf.

Their other contention as proof of Jesus being just a man was the prayers Jesus made to God. The idea being if Jesus was God he would then be talking to himself.

Whereas, as that man anointed to serve on God's behalf praying to God would make sense.

Flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God. The perishable cannot inherit, enter, the imperishable.

It's fascinating to realize a new sect exists that will rework the scriptures to say flesh and blood did enter Heaven as Jesus ascended there as flesh and blood. But he wasn't mortal... He was flesh and blood.

Yet another passage that is ignored to promote that is Ecclesiastes 12.
..and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the life’s breath returns to God who gave it.

Jesus was God. It's amazing to encounter those who don't believe that but they believe in Jesus.
 
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My mom used to have a saying when one of us was obviously wrong on something yet couldn't accept we wrong.


"The world's wrong, and YOU'RE right!"

PS- She didn't mean it as a factual statement. Just letting us see how hardheaded we were.

So except for the OP, virtually everyone of God's Children here have shown you your error. Yet you refuse to accept it.

Why?
To what are you referring?
Besides implying I'm not a Christian.
 

studentoftheword

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not a curse. a judgment, for her benefit.
likewise the toil of man is not a curse, but for his good.



No it was a curse -----your ignorance is showing about what a curse is ---------all 3 were cursed -------as well as this earth ----so where you get it was for their good I don't think it comes from the scriptures I have in My Bible ------

You must have a different Bible --------

You think that women having pain in childbirth is for her own good ---you need to experience the pain in Childbirth and see if is for your good ------you think a man ruling over women is for the woman's good --the feminist movement would have a hay day with you over that ------

No it is a curse ----and a curse was placed on all 3

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!

You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”


To the woman he said,

“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.

18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”


Not only was it the fall of man --this whole earth fell ----the tress --plants ----soil ---all animals everything God had made in the Garden -----fell to the curse ------

what is a curse ----and you say God did this for the good -----God did good and He said He was pleased with all he made ---until the disobedience came ------

cursing; a curse; meton: a doomed one.

HELPS Word-studies
2671 katára (from 2596 /katá, "according to, down" and 685 /ará, "a curse") – properly, what has "to go down" (penalties received) due to condemnation, i.e. the penalty-curse that results when God Himself curses (condemns) something.

Now that said ------what God did do for their Good was to kick them out of the Garden where the tree of life was ----as if they had eaten the fruit from the Tree of life after their disobedience there would have been no recourse for God to reverse the Curse -----as the tree of life put you in a Spiritual state forever -------and God banished them from the Garden to protect his plan to bring His Son to reverse the curse------

You really need to brush up on your research -----

So you think that all the Curses that God brought on in Deuteronomy 28 are all for our Good -------

all I can say to you is

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And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”
Luke 24:38‭-‬39 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/luk.24.38-39.NKJV
You are conflating the meaning of the word "by". By, is the means of not the form of.
As you can see here in Luke Jesus plain says he has flesh and bones.
Because flesh and bone can suddenly appear in that upper room, rather than opening the door and walking in.
 

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No it was a curse -----your ignorance is showing about what a curse is ---------all 3 were cursed -------as well as this earth ----so where you get it was for their good I don't think it comes from the scriptures I have in My Bible ------
Your Bible does not say "cursed are you, Adam"

Your own head says that.
 

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To what are you referring?
The ideas that Jesus no longer has a Body, and/or that He could come back female.

BOTH, have been thoroughly debunked here by numerous people.
Besides implying I'm not a Christian.
I made no such inference. Interesting that you took it that way.
I said that virtually ALL the Christians here, found your ideology wrong, and unscriptural.

Usually with almost all doctrines and ideologies where people differ, such as once saved always saved, or the Church has replaced Israel now, etc... there are a number who take both, or even 3 sides of an issue.

Here, NO ONE believes what you have posited about Jesus.

Hence the question. Is EVERYONE wrong and only YOU are right?
 

posthuman

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God did this for the good ----
He is always good. He did not keep them from the tree of life out of spite as though pettily withholding salvation from those who seek it earnestly, but for their benefit. they would have been damned by it if they had eaten of it before Christ made atonement with His own blood. God "kept" the way, not barred. He preserved it.

The creation Was subjected to bondage for the sake of hope, because it will one day be redeemed from it, to the glory of God: and the glory of God is our benefit.

imagine how evil mankind would be if he lived 5, 6, 700, 800, 900 years instead of a scant 80. having trouble imagining? read Genesis 6. physical death is for our benefit - after which we are raised without bondage of sin. His chastening is for our good, and it is justice and mercy mixed together.

God is good. everything He does is good. His name is salvation. everything He does saves someone.
 
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Will Jesus "Second coming" present as a woman this time?

I'm curious to see what people's thought's are about this? I would like a open-minded discussion about this, if possible. :)
Why would Jesus come back as a woman.

Some people say Eve was created a man for she was taken from Adam and transgendered to be a woman, and Jesus was genetically born a woman and transgendered to be a man.

But none of this is true.

Also do not believe Jesus is of the occult, and a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment, and is an average Joe like everyone lowering His status, and evolved to be an ascended master, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher and above Jesus.

Also do not believe that Jesus was married for He was not for that was not His purpose on Earth.

The time will come the world will want to hear the Bible according to the new age movement, but God said it is of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, and their conscious is seared with a hot iron for they say Peace but they want to get rid of all people who oppose them believing they are doing the will of nature the God of forces which they will be unmerciful, and not have compassion.

I say this for why would you think Jesus would come back as a woman for where did it come from.

Jesus obtained a glorified body when He rose to heaven which the glorified body does not have a gender.

The saints will also have a glorified body and there is no gender which the only thing that separates a man and a woman is the flesh, but the spirit and soul are the same, so when they put off the flesh and obtain a glorified body they are all the same.

Which is why Jesus said that in heaven they neither marry, or are given in marriage for there is no man or woman, because they do not have gender.

Which the new age movement believes when people evolve to be spiritual there is no male or female, and there is no single approach to gender, or sexuality.

Which is wrong for however we are born God wants us to stay that way and if He wanted people to change genders it would be in our DNA to change later in life, but people do not change.

The fact that people say they are the opposite sex, and have surgery to change genders testifies against them that they are not supposed to be that way for they do not change naturally.

They only want to live how they want to live ignoring God's creative process.