A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. ...Paul Simon
how did Satan manage to appear as a snake.
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The scripture clearly say it was a living creature, that spoke to eve, more cunning than any creature, so how can we say it was talking snake ?.
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pottersclay
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Correct...paul said o death where is your sting...the fear of death is gone but as we know JESUSl conquers death.
Absolutely. That is why iron needs to sharpen iron.touche'
...might that apply to us all, to some extent?
I agree that God knows the future from the past, but these are hard issues, and it's not required for the brethren to agree on "how" everything in God's supernatural realm occurs. But I'll try to explain my view.
God's Eternality:
* We have to agree that God is eternal.
- However, there are different ways in which God could be eternal in relation to time.
- God could be "timeless" in some way that he is beyond time, or he could be "infinite" in the sense he exists throughout infinite time.
- So he could be "timeless", or he could exist in "infinite time", or he could exist in some combination.
- Since we're not God, all we can do is take scripture, logic, and science, and sort of give it our best reasonable hypothesis. We can and should think about God, and there is much we can understand... but ultimately there will also be much we cannot.
God's Knowledge in Relation to Time:
* We have to agree God knows all things.
* We have to agree God knows the future.
* We have to agree that, if he knows all things, and knows the future, then he also knew these "all things" from the distant past (It's both scriptural and logical.)
- However, there are different ways in which God could know the future from the past.
- God could (on a B Theory of Time) simply experience all points in time simultaneously, or whenever he pleases, because on this theory all points in time exist perpetually, and never cease to exist. They are always just "there."
- God could (on an A Theory of Time) simply THINK about the future, and simply KNOW it, because he is omniscient. An omniscient being should have no necessity to EXPERIENCE the future in order to KNOW the future... it just isn't necessary. He would just know.
Conclusion:
- I completely agree (and doctrine necessitates) that God knows all things, and that he knows the future from the past.
- However, if a being is omniscient, then he doesn't need to experience the future (live through it) in order to know it.
- If God is omniscient, he doesn't need to experience the future (live through it) in order to call it set, or call it finished.
- If God is omniscient, then he should have the ability to simply know the future.
- I believe that has been the traditional view, that God simply knows all things, and therefore he knows the future.
- We can be orthodox, and still disagree on "how" God knows the future. However, although the "B Theory of Time" is not precluded in scripture, I also don't believe it is supported. The traditional view of time, to the best of my understanding, is the view that seems to be the one supported in scripture.
God Bless.
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pottersclay
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What i am saying is it could also be a expression GOD used.
My grandmother use to say drunk as a skunk....ever see a drunk skunk?
God may have been using his way of depicting how he saw it. Just a thought
cooeyyyyyy thanks dear as a result of your great point of view my friend is completely back to the normal, he's started to look at things differently now, I can't thankyou enough.
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pottersclay
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Does God know the future, or does He know what He will do in the future?
...a not-so-subtle difference.
if he can stop time, could you conceive anything is possible with God.
What makes you think that a "Serpent" in Eden was a "snake" before it was cursed??
What else would it be? Obviously it probably had legs since it was cursed to crawl on its belly after the fall.