Does God want you to take charge and tell Him what to do?

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Beckie

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Unlike you, I gave my children, not only the things they needed, but the things they wanted. But more importantly, I taught and gave them love.
It is written, if you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall my father, which is in heaven, give good things to them (His children) that ask?
Word of knowledge tell you Pilgrimshope did not give his kids things they wanted?
 

know1

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you have your personal jets yet?

With all that faith why do you argue wiht folks if you think you can command God why not command people here and have it be so

Here you implied you have cast out evil spirits, Have you , if so what is your evidence ?

This site needs money to operate how about you demanding God to cover the costs.
WoF any sick people in you town or area..... When was the last time you walked into the local hospital and all were healed?

Praise the Lord one of my brothers has been redeemed from WoF trash.
1. I don't need to, nor am I tempted, to brag on myself or to prove to you how successful I am in life or how much wealth and possessions I have.
What I would like to do is prove, through scripture, the truth in God's word.
2. Those doing witchcraft, voodoo, and the like are the ones who, not only want to control what people think and do, but actually do control what many people think and do. Let's take you for example. They got you to argue against the word of God, even the teachings of Jesus himself.
3. I have indeed fought against, put down, cast out, and destroyed the works of many spirits, and helped others do the same. However, I might add, that there are many different kinds of spirits, affecting many different areas in life, things, and people. Not all spirits possess people to the point where they speak to you through the person in a different voice and manner of the person through whom they are speaking, like a poltergeist.
4. I don't give to or do for ministries unless God tells me to, because I don't want to be cursed nor be a partaker of other people's sins through my giving.
5. I'm not so much into healing as I am Deliverances.
6. Like a double-minded man who is tossed with the waves in the wind, an ignorant gullible simpleton is easily moved or swayed from the truth.
 

Beckie

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#83
1. I don't need to, nor am I tempted, to brag on myself or to prove to you how successful I am in life or how much wealth and possessions I have.
What I would like to do is prove, through scripture, the truth in God's word.
2. Those doing witchcraft, voodoo, and the like are the ones who, not only want to control what people think and do, but actually do control what many people think and do. Let's take you for example. They got you to argue against the word of God, even the teachings of Jesus himself.
3. I have indeed fought against, put down, cast out, and destroyed the works of many spirits, and helped others do the same. However, I might add, that there are many different kinds of spirits, affecting many different areas in life, things, and people. Not all spirits possess people to the point where they speak to you through the person in a different voice and manner of the person through whom they are speaking, like a poltergeist.
4. I don't give to or do for ministries unless God tells me to, because I don't want to be cursed nor be a partaker of other people's sins through my giving.
5. I'm not so much into healing as I am Deliverances.
6. Like a double-minded man who is tossed with the waves in the wind, an ignorant gullible simpleton is easily moved or swayed from the truth.
LOL you are comparing me to a witch interesting... You are in to deliverances YOU? Why ever would i think Christ is our deliver?


2. Those doing witchcraft, voodoo, and the like are the ones who, not only want to control what people think and do, but actually do control what many people think and do. Let's take you for example. They got you to argue against the word of God, even the teachings of Jesus himself.
How about a prayer of deliverance for me? Speak the words i will be delivered right?
 

Pilgrimshope

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#84
Asking is not telling!
Amen supplication is key

“Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

certainly not demanding or from an entitled position
 

Magenta

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Amen supplication is key

“Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

certainly not demanding or from an entitled position

Philippians 4:6, 7, & 19
:)
 

Pilgrimshope

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LOL you are comparing me to a witch interesting... You are in to deliverances YOU? Why ever would i think Christ is our deliver?


2. Those doing witchcraft, voodoo, and the like are the ones who, not only want to control what people think and do, but actually do control what many people think and do. Let's take you for example. They got you to argue against the word of God, even the teachings of Jesus himself.
How about a prayer of deliverance for me? Speak the words i will be delivered right?
Sometimes if you disagree with someone’s thought they express it’s witchcraft
 

Pilgrimshope

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Love this song :D I am listening now, thank you so much! .:)
your welcome sister and thank you for all the encouragement vibrant colors artistic expression and words of wisdom you share here !!
 

know1

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Good point. Why is there still all the fuss over global warming? Why is there still poverty? Why are people still sick? What are all these word of faith people doing? Don't tell us, show us.
You seem to be missing something in your carnally minded equation.
It is thought or believed that less than three percent of the total population go to heaven.
And let's just say, 30% of said 3% of the population, knows how to use words of faith with purpose and for good.
And for the sake of argument, let's used a more conservative figure of 25% of the 97% of people who know how to use words of faith with purpose for bad things to happen or for evil.
With a population of about 8 billion people, the figures would stand about 2,000,000,000 corrupt people causing bad things to happen, and only about 80,000 good people causing good things to happen.
To answer your questions as to why all those bad things are happening, I'd say, you do the math, but I already did it for you.
 

know1

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Now why do you want a mountain to be flung into the sea?
To prove God hears you?
To elevate yourself in the estimation of others?
To avoid excavation costs?

If God was so inclined He could use a bunch of power for demonstration purposes that even the unbelievers would recognize....but then He wouldn't be God. God doesn't need anyone....or even a lot of people.
And that's the point....only a wicked generation asks for a sign.

I trust God to look after me and take care of me. It's up to me to work and try to be worthy of the title bestowed upon me and the effort He has gone through to provide me with salvation. Not pester Him for a bunch of magic tricks to prove my relationship with God to others.

God does what He wants, when He wants, how He wants, and for His reasons....not mine or yours. Jesus didn't turn the rocks into bread....but instead got fed later.

Look, it's a very scary thing to have God's attention. None of us are all that good to begin with. Only a fool would think otherwise.
Isaiah got to run around naked for 6 years before he got a prophet's death. Elijah was so miserable and distraught from his trials to where he just wanted to die after calling fire down from the sky. Jeremiah wasn't really all that happy either.

The life of being a prophet of God's is not one of health, wealth, and prosperity....it's heartbreaking and wrenching. Sure there's "magic" and miracles...but emotionally it is extremely taxing.
Here is one of many things I think you are wrong in.
Just like the devil, God needs man to do certain things in the Earth.
I believe God set it up that way.
 

Cameron143

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You seem to be missing something in your carnally minded equation.
It is thought or believed that less than three percent of the total population go to heaven.
And let's just say, 30% of said 3% of the population, knows how to use words of faith with purpose and for good.
And for the sake of argument, let's used a more conservative figure of 25% of the 97% of people who know how to use words of faith with purpose for bad things to happen or for evil.
With a population of about 8 billion people, the figures would stand about 2,000,000,000 corrupt people causing bad things to happen, and only about 80,000 good people causing good things to happen.
To answer your questions as to why all those bad things are happening, I'd say, you do the math, but I already did it for you.
I like math. So if there are 8 billion people, try commanding God to give 8 billion mansions. Use words like every and all when commanding to alleviate poverty and disease.
Seems the only problem is your numbers are too small. Demand more for the rest of us.
Oh...and thanks in advance for all you will do for us.
 

Beckie

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You seem to be missing something in your carnally minded equation.
It is thought or believed that less than three percent of the total population go to heaven.
And let's just say, 30% of said 3% of the population, knows how to use words of faith with purpose and for good.
And for the sake of argument, let's used a more conservative figure of 25% of the 97% of people who know how to use words of faith with purpose for bad things to happen or for evil.
With a population of about 8 billion people, the figures would stand about 2,000,000,000 corrupt people causing bad things to happen, and only about 80,000 good people causing good things to happen.
To answer your questions as to why all those bad things are happening, I'd say, you do the math, but I already did it for you.
another joke
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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This may sound like blasphemy, but the bible is full of instances, circumstances, and accounts of people telling God what to do.

In Isaiah 45:11, many translations write the verse similar to the kjv.
(KJV) Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
I'm just wondering, how do you personally, in your own life, command God to do or give you something? Please write examples from your life where you did this? And what did God do? How did you perceive His attitude during the time you commanded Him and then His attitude if He responded?

I think maybe people are misunderstanding you? So I just think this needs clarification.
 

Magenta

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your welcome sister and thank you for all the encouragement vibrant colors artistic expression and words of wisdom you share here !!

You Are Welcome! God Bless You
Thank you for the inspiration to update my "you are welcome" panel .:D
 

soberxp

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I didn't get what you were arguing about,
I used to think why God made me this way, and I was not satisfied, until I realized that although I was not satisfied, according to the golden ratio, I was created according to the golden ratio, so I was the fool who asked God why you made me this way.
 

Pilgrimshope

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You Are Welcome! God Bless You
Thank you for the inspiration to update my "you are welcome" panel .:D
Well your certainly always welcome sister just being honest , and really who wouldn’t welcome a blessing of a talented sister in the lord sharing her gifts the lord gave her with others in a foreign designed to discuss his word !!!

your a blessing to have met and appreciated by more than myself !! Lovely panel
 

Pilgrimshope

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Here is one of many things I think you are wrong in.
Just like the devil, God needs man to do certain things in the Earth.
I believe God set it up that way.
Yes God has always worked through mankind in earth, it’s not that he needs us it’s that we need him to have any value at all in his design of creation
 

Beckie

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Here is one of many things I think you are wrong in.
Just like the devil, God needs man to do certain things in the Earth.
I believe God set it up that way.
So to you God is just like the devil? really ?
You show an extremely low view of God . You have stated He needs man and is just like the devil?
You could use some good guidance . A strong Christian man of age.

Now you suggest God is just like the devil . Pretty close to blasphemy I suggest you check yourself.
 

know1

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Faith isn't believing God will do what you say. Faith is believing what God says He will do.
Wow, you are so close in one point and yet so wrong in the other.
Faith is actually not believing, which is a verb, but is the person, place, thing, and/or situation or circumstance, which is a noun.
Faith IS the very thing you envision.
Paul said it is the substance or material of the thing you envision.
Where Faith doesn't require any action to have, believing does.
However, without believing, the substance or material will lie dormant and dead, as faith requires believing for it to manifest in the natural.
And the kind of believing God teaches in his word, requires some type of corresponding physical act to said belief.
You cannot, " just believe", and have your faith manifest in the natural, as nothing will happen.
And another thing concerning God's kind of believing, is to Believe it is, you have it now, or it is done or has already happened when you prayed or spoke, which means, BEFORE you see it, feel it, hear it, taste it, experience it, or manifests in the natural.
That's not an easy thing to do for an adult.
And all this hinges on believing God will perform his word or do what he said he will do in His word.
So if I bind the strong man and command the thing to come out in the name of Jesus, since it is not me doing the actual work to drive the thing out, but God doing it through his word, which is our power, strength, and ability, God gets the glory.
Now the reason why I say it is okay to tell God what to do, is because I am the one directing and sending his word, or the word of faith, which is the spoken word of God, to do what I commanded it to do.
So I'm not actually telling or demanding God Himself do this for me, as I'm not actually speaking to God, but I am more directing his hand by saying what I want done in faith.
And so to my second point, you still have to have faith in the words you just formed and spoke.
Without faith in your own words, they're just empty, idle, inactive, and dead words.
Without God acting on our word, they are, as I said, just inactive, empty, idle, and dead.