Jesus Revolution ?
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I used to love calvary chapel, the consept seemed great. Going, through the entire bible without skipping, and it is a great Bible study, but not a good church model. By the time you get to Romans its been 5 years since ya heard about anything in Dueteronomy.
I like the model of the church i am with now, we tie the old testament passages in with epistle passages and with gospel passages, and psalms, every Sunday. The vast majority of the words said in my church is scripture. Only about a quarter of the service is the words of the pastor.
I like the model of the church i am with now, we tie the old testament passages in with epistle passages and with gospel passages, and psalms, every Sunday. The vast majority of the words said in my church is scripture. Only about a quarter of the service is the words of the pastor.
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Calvary Chapel has Churches all over the USA.
Chuck Smith, man who founded the Calvary Chapel Movement, is pretty deep in his theology along with many of Preachers following.
Many deal with addiction of all sorts and they seem to have great recovery successes.
Are you a member or someone associated with Calvary Chapel?
Chuck Smith, man who founded the Calvary Chapel Movement, is pretty deep in his theology along with many of Preachers following.
Many deal with addiction of all sorts and they seem to have great recovery successes.
Are you a member or someone associated with Calvary Chapel?
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I've found that preaching to them about their lifestyle doesn't respect them as persons. The best way is to share with them our stories of what God has done in our lives, that is, what witnessing is all about. They will listen to your stories about how God has changed you in your Christian walk with him.
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I get frequency on 89.7/89.9 both similar programs but the one is strictly Calvary Chapel Pastors.
A Pastor named Ed runs the station from his own Church Building. But it covers Calvary Chapel Pastors from California to Texas.
Are you considered to be a Member?
They really seem to have Pentecostal roots but the structure of their teaching style of beginning with Genesis then Exodus then next Book and next. Takes a couple real years total getting through 66 Books of the Bible.
Really removes the Holy Spirit from being free to change the pattern and shake everyone up.
But I still enjoy listening while I drive.
A Pastor named Ed runs the station from his own Church Building. But it covers Calvary Chapel Pastors from California to Texas.
Are you considered to be a Member?
They really seem to have Pentecostal roots but the structure of their teaching style of beginning with Genesis then Exodus then next Book and next. Takes a couple real years total getting through 66 Books of the Bible.
Really removes the Holy Spirit from being free to change the pattern and shake everyone up.
But I still enjoy listening while I drive.
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Pastor chuck has always taught the whole word from genesis to revelation and the pastors have kept that guide line.
However bible study is taught by the lords leading and we also have guest speakers.
Some from within calvary some from outside. Some from israel.
The pastors do respond and expound on certain topics when feedback from the congregation is heard or the Holy Spirit directs.
However bible study is taught by the lords leading and we also have guest speakers.
Some from within calvary some from outside. Some from israel.
The pastors do respond and expound on certain topics when feedback from the congregation is heard or the Holy Spirit directs.
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I took my family to see it last week. I wanted to encourage a desire for a revival.
My wife has said that God has told her that there will be a revival that takes place outside of the church (or maybe primarily outside of church bulidings) in which LGBT people, criminals, drug addicts, will come to Christ. Also, that there would be a revival in this Bible study we hae for youth in the community. Young people started showing up at our house, and we formed a Bible study. It was mainly my kids and non-church kids, though we are getting more church kids recently. We've had a couple of kids confused about their sexuality who have joined.
Anyway, back to the movie, from what numerous people say, Lonnie Frisbee had been molested as a child and was into the homosexual lifestyle, and fell back into sin later after this revival in the movie.
From what people have written who were there on Facebook and various videos, Lonnie Frisbee left before they moved to the tent. So that scene where Lonnie tries to give a word and Chuck Smith shuts him down, some say that never happened. He had gone to Florida to work on his marriage. He was with the 'Fort Lauderdale Five' in the the shepherding movement, and came back to Calvary Chapel where Chuck Smith put him to work directing traffic in the parking lot (directing some of the people he had led to Christ.)
I believe the part about Frisbee having a part in leading Greg Laurie to Christ is based on a true story, and also the part about prophesying about his preaching to crowds. The movie was silly about Chuck Smith giving the keys to the empty church building to Greg Laurie after he preached one sermon. He started a Bible study, I read, that grew into a larger congregation. And, yes he has massive crusades also where he preaches to really large crowds.
Also, from what I have read, Chuck Smith and the congregation were very outreach oriented. it is likely the part about people leaving the church because the Hippies came was made up by the screen writer for dramatic effect. The general gist of that part of the story is true.
The move present Lonnie Frisbee as being on an ego trip, with the way the actor talked, and they made it seem like this really big deal, crossing a line, when he says he thinks he is a prophet on the Kathryn Kuhlman show. I didn't see that part on the clip of the show on YouTube, if it even existed. It is possible the screen writer just put that clip on the Kathryn Kuhlman show. I have a fuzzy recollection of seeing Frisbee speaking at a Vineyard on a video saying he was a prophet. I think it was a Vineyard meeting.
I don't know if there was any kicking Frisbee out before he went to Florida with his wife to work on his marriage. That might have been fabricated.
Chuck Smith, though from a Pentecostal background, was a bit more conservative about 'Charismatic' type manifestations. The Vineyard congregatrions were a bit more open to it. John Wimber's congregation was a Calvary Chapel for a while, but it didn't fit with what Chuck Smitrh wanted because of the degree to which the Vineyard embraced some of these things. Lonnie Frisbee did preach at the Vineyard early on. Chuck Smith would teach the Bible verse by verse. Calvary Chapel had special meetings for gifts of the Spirit. Some may still do that. I think they call them 'Aglow' meetings or something like that. it might be a night service. I am not sure if all of them have a meeting like this.
So the film might be trying to capture some of the differences when it came to ministry philosophy.
My wife has said that God has told her that there will be a revival that takes place outside of the church (or maybe primarily outside of church bulidings) in which LGBT people, criminals, drug addicts, will come to Christ. Also, that there would be a revival in this Bible study we hae for youth in the community. Young people started showing up at our house, and we formed a Bible study. It was mainly my kids and non-church kids, though we are getting more church kids recently. We've had a couple of kids confused about their sexuality who have joined.
Anyway, back to the movie, from what numerous people say, Lonnie Frisbee had been molested as a child and was into the homosexual lifestyle, and fell back into sin later after this revival in the movie.
From what people have written who were there on Facebook and various videos, Lonnie Frisbee left before they moved to the tent. So that scene where Lonnie tries to give a word and Chuck Smith shuts him down, some say that never happened. He had gone to Florida to work on his marriage. He was with the 'Fort Lauderdale Five' in the the shepherding movement, and came back to Calvary Chapel where Chuck Smith put him to work directing traffic in the parking lot (directing some of the people he had led to Christ.)
I believe the part about Frisbee having a part in leading Greg Laurie to Christ is based on a true story, and also the part about prophesying about his preaching to crowds. The movie was silly about Chuck Smith giving the keys to the empty church building to Greg Laurie after he preached one sermon. He started a Bible study, I read, that grew into a larger congregation. And, yes he has massive crusades also where he preaches to really large crowds.
Also, from what I have read, Chuck Smith and the congregation were very outreach oriented. it is likely the part about people leaving the church because the Hippies came was made up by the screen writer for dramatic effect. The general gist of that part of the story is true.
The move present Lonnie Frisbee as being on an ego trip, with the way the actor talked, and they made it seem like this really big deal, crossing a line, when he says he thinks he is a prophet on the Kathryn Kuhlman show. I didn't see that part on the clip of the show on YouTube, if it even existed. It is possible the screen writer just put that clip on the Kathryn Kuhlman show. I have a fuzzy recollection of seeing Frisbee speaking at a Vineyard on a video saying he was a prophet. I think it was a Vineyard meeting.
I don't know if there was any kicking Frisbee out before he went to Florida with his wife to work on his marriage. That might have been fabricated.
Chuck Smith, though from a Pentecostal background, was a bit more conservative about 'Charismatic' type manifestations. The Vineyard congregatrions were a bit more open to it. John Wimber's congregation was a Calvary Chapel for a while, but it didn't fit with what Chuck Smitrh wanted because of the degree to which the Vineyard embraced some of these things. Lonnie Frisbee did preach at the Vineyard early on. Chuck Smith would teach the Bible verse by verse. Calvary Chapel had special meetings for gifts of the Spirit. Some may still do that. I think they call them 'Aglow' meetings or something like that. it might be a night service. I am not sure if all of them have a meeting like this.
So the film might be trying to capture some of the differences when it came to ministry philosophy.
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Every day they have a live call in show between 4-5 pm.
Anyone can ask anything or request prayer.
Each days show has a different speaker, one answering callers questions, Monday thru Friday.
Since the Pastors choose to follow Chuck Smiths pattern of teaching/preaching, the call in question and answer show is where you really get to know just what both Calvary Chapel and each host/speaker/cc pastor theology is about.
They face enough questions that you will finally hear everyone's bottom line [Doctrine].
And whether I agree/disagree they do base their beliefs right from the pages of the Bible.
Anyone can ask anything or request prayer.
Each days show has a different speaker, one answering callers questions, Monday thru Friday.
Since the Pastors choose to follow Chuck Smiths pattern of teaching/preaching, the call in question and answer show is where you really get to know just what both Calvary Chapel and each host/speaker/cc pastor theology is about.
They face enough questions that you will finally hear everyone's bottom line [Doctrine].
And whether I agree/disagree they do base their beliefs right from the pages of the Bible.
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I listen to Christian talk radio in my car also -
Oh, back to the topic and the radio program I mentioned earlier...
I found the clip where the host answers questions and speaks about The Jesus Revolution -
https://www.thenarrowpath.com/audio/radio-broadcasts/afternoon-show/TNP230227H.mp3
The segment starts about halfway through @ approximately 29:40
Oh, back to the topic and the radio program I mentioned earlier...
I found the clip where the host answers questions and speaks about The Jesus Revolution -
https://www.thenarrowpath.com/audio/radio-broadcasts/afternoon-show/TNP230227H.mp3
The segment starts about halfway through @ approximately 29:40
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I listen to Christian talk radio in my car also -
Oh, back to the topic and the radio program I mentioned earlier...
I found the clip where the host answers questions and speaks about The Jesus Revolution -
https://www.thenarrowpath.com/audio/radio-broadcasts/afternoon-show/TNP230227H.mp3
The segment starts about halfway through @ approximately 29:40
Oh, back to the topic and the radio program I mentioned earlier...
I found the clip where the host answers questions and speaks about The Jesus Revolution -
https://www.thenarrowpath.com/audio/radio-broadcasts/afternoon-show/TNP230227H.mp3
The segment starts about halfway through @ approximately 29:40
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You are welcome! I find his program very informative and his theology seems solid, though I don't get to
listen to it as often as I would like due to timing. Hey, heh, maybe I should just listen to the archives! -
listen to it as often as I would like due to timing. Hey, heh, maybe I should just listen to the archives! -
I look forward to listening.
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How to get them to the church is the question. I don't see young people racing to go to church, not even Christian young people. Back when I was in ministry I stepped outside during a break and there were some young guys hanging around outside the church. One was smoking. And I asked if they attended the church. They kind of rolled their eyes and said they kind of did. As we began to talk deeper one young man said "they don't care about us in there, they don't even want us here!" Whether true or not, that was how they felt. I tried to encourage them and suggested they find other churches that had youth programs they could go to during the week. It was sad, I doubt many of them stayed and that's "churched" youth. That's why the movie touched me and why I asked the question.