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In Eccl 9, the topic isn't the second death, or eternal things (do people have the same eternal fate? no, he's talking about our temporal lives)... the point of Eccl 9 is that while you're here on earth you have this certainty of death that should motivate you to do all you can do while you're still alive. The dead don't have the certainty that they will die, because they are already dead. It's not that the dead "literally know-not-anything", but it's that they don't make these considerations like living people do. Their opportunity to contribute to this life is gone.
(You can see in the scriptures where "anything" is used in a non-literal way...
Amnon was sick with frustration over his sister Tamar, for she was a virgin, and it seemed implausible for him to do anything to her.
Now, if you know the story, you know that he is not upset because he can't take his sister out for a walk, or take her to a movie. The "anything" he want's to do to her is actually quite specific.)
With 1Cor15, in verse 27 Paul even makes mention that words that seem absolute (like "every" or "all") can have implied exceptions . Sometimes they mean "every" or "all" of an implied subject. So, "every tear" being washed away, and God being "all in all"; when the scriptures say these things it is obvious that he is not talking about people in the lake of fire. So, this isn't really a good verse to use to support annihlationism either.
The fact that God never considered asking people for arbitrary human-sacrifices has nothing to do with his final judgements and the lake of fire, so I thought it was weird for that to have even been brought up.
I think it is sufficient for me to say that whether "forever and ever" means "eternally" or "a really long time"... being in a lake of fire for any duration probably sucks to the extent that it is not a place you want to go. But at the same time, what I take away from the bible is that the people that are thrown into the lake of fire would actually rather be there than with God anyway. If they were given a choice between "God" and "Lake of Fire" they would choose "lake of fire", regardless of whether it was a place of anihlation or eternal torment.
I tend to agree that annihlation doesn't quite inspire 'fear of the lord' like eternal torment does. Professional athiests seem to readily accept non-existence; so, I tend to think that annhilationism is one of the lies that non-believers use to wall themselves off from God.
Professional athiests, and i've noticed some "jews" are really, really appalled by the idea of eternal torment; and when Christians seem to be appalled by it, I can never get behind their reasoning as to why it is so appalling, and it is somewhat alarming.
At the end of the day, though, I don't think we are responsible to understand precisely what occurs in the lake of fire; because it's a "god's judgement" sort of thing- like, because we have limited human capacity, we can't understand everything he does. Wrath is his, and he will repay- that's what he says- how he does his wrath is beyond my ability to assess, we can't see what he sees, so we can only trust that whatever he does is the righteous thing.
(You can see in the scriptures where "anything" is used in a non-literal way...
Amnon was sick with frustration over his sister Tamar, for she was a virgin, and it seemed implausible for him to do anything to her.
Now, if you know the story, you know that he is not upset because he can't take his sister out for a walk, or take her to a movie. The "anything" he want's to do to her is actually quite specific.)
With 1Cor15, in verse 27 Paul even makes mention that words that seem absolute (like "every" or "all") can have implied exceptions . Sometimes they mean "every" or "all" of an implied subject. So, "every tear" being washed away, and God being "all in all"; when the scriptures say these things it is obvious that he is not talking about people in the lake of fire. So, this isn't really a good verse to use to support annihlationism either.
The fact that God never considered asking people for arbitrary human-sacrifices has nothing to do with his final judgements and the lake of fire, so I thought it was weird for that to have even been brought up.
I think it is sufficient for me to say that whether "forever and ever" means "eternally" or "a really long time"... being in a lake of fire for any duration probably sucks to the extent that it is not a place you want to go. But at the same time, what I take away from the bible is that the people that are thrown into the lake of fire would actually rather be there than with God anyway. If they were given a choice between "God" and "Lake of Fire" they would choose "lake of fire", regardless of whether it was a place of anihlation or eternal torment.
I tend to agree that annihlation doesn't quite inspire 'fear of the lord' like eternal torment does. Professional athiests seem to readily accept non-existence; so, I tend to think that annhilationism is one of the lies that non-believers use to wall themselves off from God.
Professional athiests, and i've noticed some "jews" are really, really appalled by the idea of eternal torment; and when Christians seem to be appalled by it, I can never get behind their reasoning as to why it is so appalling, and it is somewhat alarming.
At the end of the day, though, I don't think we are responsible to understand precisely what occurs in the lake of fire; because it's a "god's judgement" sort of thing- like, because we have limited human capacity, we can't understand everything he does. Wrath is his, and he will repay- that's what he says- how he does his wrath is beyond my ability to assess, we can't see what he sees, so we can only trust that whatever he does is the righteous thing.
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The 'link' to the video you mention does not link.
And as to your second point I wholeheartedly agree but all I've had by way of responses is opinions that Revelation which is written mainly in symbolic language is meant to be taken literally e.g. there are persons in this forum who actually believe that the Lake of Fire is a literal Lake. And the Lake is on Fire. On Fire for Eternity. And people are literally thrown into the Lake of Fire and 'tormented/burned' for Eternity even though the may only have committed sins in a life of, say, only 20 -30 years!
And they call that Justice! Huh?!
But to defend their horrific belief what do they do? They engage in circular reasoning - despite my point that much of Revelation is written in symbolic language - insisting that THEIR INTERPRETATION of Scripture is precisely what God intended.
And one forum member who is so disconnected from the world of reality, in response to my comment that IF he were being consistent would have to accept that Jesus Christ the Lamb of God is a literal sheep, without any sense of irony whatsoever accused me of blasphemy!
Bizzare indeed.
And as to your second point I wholeheartedly agree but all I've had by way of responses is opinions that Revelation which is written mainly in symbolic language is meant to be taken literally e.g. there are persons in this forum who actually believe that the Lake of Fire is a literal Lake. And the Lake is on Fire. On Fire for Eternity. And people are literally thrown into the Lake of Fire and 'tormented/burned' for Eternity even though the may only have committed sins in a life of, say, only 20 -30 years!
And they call that Justice! Huh?!
But to defend their horrific belief what do they do? They engage in circular reasoning - despite my point that much of Revelation is written in symbolic language - insisting that THEIR INTERPRETATION of Scripture is precisely what God intended.
And one forum member who is so disconnected from the world of reality, in response to my comment that IF he were being consistent would have to accept that Jesus Christ the Lamb of God is a literal sheep, without any sense of irony whatsoever accused me of blasphemy!
Bizzare indeed.
Says the person who states they are not snarky! 
After trying for some time to explain from the bible and with logic i feel that some people are unwilling to see things differently.
If there traditional idea of hell is eternal then they refuse to see it differently.
GOD IS JUST. God is loving and God is not pleased when people suffer.
Yet ... people teach that God will cause people to suffer for ever and ever because they sinned for 60 years or less.
What helped me was a sermon that help to explain the meaning of "for ever" in the language it was written.
It can mean for as long as or while ever the person is conscious.
The main issue in the goes back to the first lie, "you shall surely not die", the devil has spread this lie so much that every religion and even christianity teach that we can't die, or we live forever...
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
"perish", if perish = eternal life in hell. It doesn't stop you from having everlasting life.
If there traditional idea of hell is eternal then they refuse to see it differently.
GOD IS JUST. God is loving and God is not pleased when people suffer.
Yet ... people teach that God will cause people to suffer for ever and ever because they sinned for 60 years or less.
What helped me was a sermon that help to explain the meaning of "for ever" in the language it was written.
It can mean for as long as or while ever the person is conscious.
The main issue in the goes back to the first lie, "you shall surely not die", the devil has spread this lie so much that every religion and even christianity teach that we can't die, or we live forever...
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
"perish", if perish = eternal life in hell. It doesn't stop you from having everlasting life.
The thing is, the pertinent passages [regarding 'the lake of fire'] aren't using the word for forever / for ever...
...rather, they are using the phrase below (taken from my Post #176 of this thread):
[quoting excerpt from my Post #176]
[here are 18 of the 21x this precise phrase is used...]
"unto the ages [plural] of the ages [plural]" -
(what we call "forever" / "eternity" / "eternal" / endlessness, etc),
...found in the following verses [where the "blanks" are... fill them in with THIS specific phrase (not "age [singular]" which is distinct in meaning, from this)]:
--Galatians 1:5;
Philippians 4:20;
1 Timothy 1:17;
2 Timothy 4:18;
Hebrews 13:21
("[to Whom] be glory _____" ; "be honour and glory _____");
--1 Peter 4:11;
1 Peter 5:11;
Revelation 1:6
("to Him/Whom be glory/praise/dominion ____");
--Revelation 1:18;
Revelation 4:9;
Revelation 4:10;
Revelation 5:14;
Revelation 10:6;
Revelation 15:7
("I am alive ____" ; "[Him] Who/that liveth ____" ; "God, Who liveth ____");
--Revelation 5:13;
Revelation 7:12;
Revelation 11:15;
Revelation 22:5
("and unto the Lamb ___" ; "be unto our God ____" ; "and He shall reign ____" ; "and they shall reign ___");
[which ones of the above look to be saying something like "long-but-limited-time-period"??]
[end quoting excerpt from my Post #176]
-- more at link: https://christianchat.com/threads/hell-sheol-hades.206073/post-5024826
[Rev1:18, as one small example, doesn't say/mean "I am alive [for as long as I'm alive]" (said by Jesus)... it's not using the word in your post, see; Study out the phrase I put in my Post #176, of which I've only included HERE 18 of the 21x in that post]
...rather, they are using the phrase below (taken from my Post #176 of this thread):
[quoting excerpt from my Post #176]
[here are 18 of the 21x this precise phrase is used...]
"unto the ages [plural] of the ages [plural]" -
(what we call "forever" / "eternity" / "eternal" / endlessness, etc),
...found in the following verses [where the "blanks" are... fill them in with THIS specific phrase (not "age [singular]" which is distinct in meaning, from this)]:
--Galatians 1:5;
Philippians 4:20;
1 Timothy 1:17;
2 Timothy 4:18;
Hebrews 13:21
("[to Whom] be glory _____" ; "be honour and glory _____");
--1 Peter 4:11;
1 Peter 5:11;
Revelation 1:6
("to Him/Whom be glory/praise/dominion ____");
--Revelation 1:18;
Revelation 4:9;
Revelation 4:10;
Revelation 5:14;
Revelation 10:6;
Revelation 15:7
("I am alive ____" ; "[Him] Who/that liveth ____" ; "God, Who liveth ____");
--Revelation 5:13;
Revelation 7:12;
Revelation 11:15;
Revelation 22:5
("and unto the Lamb ___" ; "be unto our God ____" ; "and He shall reign ____" ; "and they shall reign ___");
[which ones of the above look to be saying something like "long-but-limited-time-period"??]
[end quoting excerpt from my Post #176]
-- more at link: https://christianchat.com/threads/hell-sheol-hades.206073/post-5024826
[Rev1:18, as one small example, doesn't say/mean "I am alive [for as long as I'm alive]" (said by Jesus)... it's not using the word in your post, see; Study out the phrase I put in my Post #176, of which I've only included HERE 18 of the 21x in that post]
As I /\ pointed to so even the simple would not mistake it, it is a "one minute video."
When the font in posts is blue in color, there a likely chance that it is a hyperlink. When I increase font size, it is most definitely a link. The "statement" is not as you portray it as such. It is the subject or title of the video in my link.
When I confront Jehovah's false Witness Elders, I don't waste my time trying to persuade them. I don't even debate with those of similar dogmas on these forums with others who are not convinced by nearly two dozen pages. I left the link for those interested. I serve those with ears to hear before they go off into eternity..
When the font in posts is blue in color, there a likely chance that it is a hyperlink. When I increase font size, it is most definitely a link. The "statement" is not as you portray it as such. It is the subject or title of the video in my link.
When I confront Jehovah's false Witness Elders, I don't waste my time trying to persuade them. I don't even debate with those of similar dogmas on these forums with others who are not convinced by nearly two dozen pages. I left the link for those interested. I serve those with ears to hear before they go off into eternity..
Oh... it works for me, but here is what it links to if you're interested. KJV1611only.com
https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/12other/Hell_Is_An_Eternal_Punishment.mp4
Well, God's idea of justice (like I said in post 451) is not our idea of Justice. Like, I would have had King David executed in front of the army for taking one of his soldier's wives- but obviously that's wrong even though death is the prescribed penalty for adultery, because that's not what God did. You might think eternal torment is unjust, but God sees what we don't. It's not only the 20 or 30 years, or even if it was just 10 minutes of sin that is the problem. The problem is rejection of God- the sin just shows that we are wicked, but really, we have no righteousness apart from God at all. Even our good deeds are tainted by wicked motivations. So, if eternal torment is scripturally correct, I am in no place to challenge God's judgements because his perceptions are higher than mine.
I don't think God is the cause when man chose to rebel against him. So, it's not the "unlimited punishment for limited sin" scenario... it's more like perpetual torment for choosing to stay perpetually wicked.
Well, if your idea of "life" is eternal torment, then maybe your idea is different than God's idea. Jesus said his words were spirit and life. I would call eternal torment an "existence" but not "life".
https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/12other/Hell_Is_An_Eternal_Punishment.mp4
Well, God's idea of justice (like I said in post 451) is not our idea of Justice. Like, I would have had King David executed in front of the army for taking one of his soldier's wives- but obviously that's wrong even though death is the prescribed penalty for adultery, because that's not what God did. You might think eternal torment is unjust, but God sees what we don't. It's not only the 20 or 30 years, or even if it was just 10 minutes of sin that is the problem. The problem is rejection of God- the sin just shows that we are wicked, but really, we have no righteousness apart from God at all. Even our good deeds are tainted by wicked motivations. So, if eternal torment is scripturally correct, I am in no place to challenge God's judgements because his perceptions are higher than mine.
I don't think God is the cause when man chose to rebel against him. So, it's not the "unlimited punishment for limited sin" scenario... it's more like perpetual torment for choosing to stay perpetually wicked.
Well, if your idea of "life" is eternal torment, then maybe your idea is different than God's idea. Jesus said his words were spirit and life. I would call eternal torment an "existence" but not "life".