Hell, Sheol, Hades...
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God created ex nihilo (from nothing). We use the word "create' very loosely but only God can "create" its true meaning is "ex nihilo"
“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters,” (Genesis 1:1-2).
There is not one single word in scripture that means de-create unless you can find it?
And no
"Perish" is a biblical term, it does not mean de-create
"Utterly destroy" does not mean de-create
"Death" does not mean de-create.
“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters,” (Genesis 1:1-2).
There is not one single word in scripture that means de-create unless you can find it?
And no
"Perish" is a biblical term, it does not mean de-create
"Utterly destroy" does not mean de-create
"Death" does not mean de-create.
You go on and on about your theory as if it were someone elses.
Meanwhile you ask what difference it makes to use one word over another when one word is Biblical and the other
is not. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth just makes you look like a fool spouting nonsense. Sorry.
Destroy and perish have meanings which you deny.
Meanwhile you ask what difference it makes to use one word over another when one word is Biblical and the other
is not. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth just makes you look like a fool spouting nonsense. Sorry.
Destroy and perish have meanings which you deny.
Words have meaning, if you cannot understand the function of semantics to understand text I really do not know what more I can say.
I think @oyster67 gave the best example with regards to fruits and vegetables in a fridge, when an object perishes it does not become un-created, non-existent.
First Law of Thermodynamics.
If you cannot grasp that concrete example you are right I would look foolish.
You are obviously, excessively emotionally invested in this "annihilationism" when it becomes so personal. That really is too bad.
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That's how I've understood some participating in this thread to be meaning; whereas it seems that others believe the annihilation occurs immediately upon the death of the unbelievers (iow, there will be NO point in time when unbelievers, after having died, will be delivered up [from hell/hades where they will have been since they died] to "STAND" before God at the GWTj [a 'resurrection OF JUDGMENT'] and then at that point [that is, later, AFTER having been in hell/hades] now cast into the lake of fire... that what Rev20:10 states clearly, is only figurative language since it's in the book of Revelation--it won't ACTUALLY happen... according to their viewpoint)...
... that, where Rev20:10 states that "and THEY [the beast-individual-man-aspect, and the false prophet, also human... AND Satan] SHALL BE tormented unto the ages [plural] of the ages [plural]" is only "figurative" (but really, they are [or will have been] "annihilated" instead--according to their viewpoint)
... that, where Rev20:10 states that "and THEY [the beast-individual-man-aspect, and the false prophet, also human... AND Satan] SHALL BE tormented unto the ages [plural] of the ages [plural]" is only "figurative" (but really, they are [or will have been] "annihilated" instead--according to their viewpoint)
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Isa 24:21
It shall come to pass in that day
That the LORD will punish (H6485)
on high the host of exalted ones,
And on the earth the kings of the earth.
Isa 24:22
They will be gathered together,
As prisoners are gathered in the pit,
And will be shut up in the prison;
After many days they will be punished (H6485).
H6485 - pāqaḏ - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (nkjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Well.....looks like it is a common prison for all rebels. And they are "punished" twice. First in hades (the prison), then
again after sentencing at the GWT judgement to eternal incarceration in the lake of fire.
It shall come to pass in that day
That the LORD will punish (H6485)
on high the host of exalted ones,
And on the earth the kings of the earth.
Isa 24:22
They will be gathered together,
As prisoners are gathered in the pit,
And will be shut up in the prison;
After many days they will be punished (H6485).
H6485 - pāqaḏ - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (nkjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Well.....looks like it is a common prison for all rebels. And they are "punished" twice. First in hades (the prison), then
again after sentencing at the GWT judgement to eternal incarceration in the lake of fire.
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Its entirely possible that 3 and 4 are the same abode. Given Rev 9 etc. Maybe God is recycling the use of these demon entities before final judgement?
Rev 9:1
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Rev 9:2
And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Rev 9:11
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
Rev 9:1
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Rev 9:2
And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Rev 9:11
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
God alone is immortal. That is Scripture 
Our God is a Consuming Fire
Our God is a Consuming Fire
Satan and his fallen rebel angels on the other hand ARE eternal, but DID HAVE a distinct beginning.
I think that is also the case with men. Though we are yet in our "containers" of flesh, our souls/mind are eternal.
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Its eternal alright. And Jesus Himself warns of a reckoning after the body dies.
Mat 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Rev 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Rev 20:13
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Mat 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Rev 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Rev 20:13
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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