Technological Signs relating to Christ’s Coming are being fulfilled.

[iamsoandso]

Still the nation has been in place longer than a generation.

Are you meaning the generations of an man like the 1960's generation or the Generations of the Heavens and the earth like in Genesis 2:4? https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm think a little first because the very direct question the Disciples ask Jesus in Matthew 24:3 was about when that age/generation was going to end https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm

 

[Cameron143]

Which Scripture are you referencing when you speak of "near", or "at hand" or "soon"? God spoke through prophets for thousands of years using these same type descriptions. https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kj...1=day+of+the+lord&restrict=All&size=First+100

Revelation 1:1...things which must shortly come to pass...

God does use those numbers in those way indicating longer periods of time. But they always have numbers.

A day day......a thousand years
Shortly....a thousand shortly's?

 

[cv5]

Still the nation has been in place longer than a generation.

Key word "PASS AWAY". You have another few decades. Plenty of time.

Alternatively, Jesus is talking about the continuity of Jewish race itself up to the end times. Perfectly plausible as well.

 

[iamsoandso]

Revelation 1:1...things which must shortly come to pass...

God does use those numbers in those way indicating longer periods of time. But they always have numbers.

A day day......a thousand years
Shortly....a thousand shortly's?

Then if one age of time was to end and another was to begin(the one coming) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/12-32.htm and they were as an thousand years then when the one they were in in Matt. 12 ended there would be two ages of time prior to the Millennial? https://biblehub.com/interlinear/hosea/6-2.htm

 

[iamsoandso]

Look at Hosea 6:2 real close because he was raised on the third day. After two ages will the Body of Christ not be raised that we may live in his sight?

 

[Cameron143]

Look at Hosea 6:2 real close because he was raised on the third day. After two ages will the Body of Christ not be raised that we may live in his sight?

I find your question very intriguing but Don have time currently to research and answer. But if you give me some time, I will get back to you.

 

[cv5]

Look at Hosea 6:2 real close because he was raised on the third day. After two ages will the Body of Christ not be raised that we may live in his sight?

These are undoubtedly prophecies concerning the reconstitution of Israel. Including a rough time frame. And that time frame is JUST ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

Hos 5:15
I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.
Hos 6:1
Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Hos 6:2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

 

[Cameron143]

I find your question very intriguing but Don have time currently to research and answer. But if you give me some time, I will get back to you.

So I'm not exactly tracking. I'll tell you what I'm getting and you can fill me in using explanations for dummies.

Matthew 12:32 is a verse you are employing to establish an age to come.

Hosea 5 and 6 you are using to establish a time-line for the future kingdom of 2,000 years of the new era that has been since the time of Christ and what many would call the church age. And next would be a 1000 year period in which the Jewish nation would enmasse return to God at its inception.

How did I do on my homework?

 

[iamsoandso]

So I'm not exactly tracking. I'll tell you what I'm getting and you can fill me in using explanations for dummies.

Matthew 12:32 is a verse you are employing to establish an age to come.

Hosea 5 and 6 you are using to establish a time-line for the future kingdom of 2,000 years of the new era that has been since the time of Christ and what many would call the church age. And next would be a 1000 year period in which the Jewish nation would enmasse return to God at its inception.

How did I do on my homework?

The part where you say "establish a time line for the future kingdom of 2000...." isn't what I'm meaning...
In Hosea 3 they would abide many days without a king https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea 3&version=KJV yet in Luke 23 there is the king being crowned https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 23&version=KJV Now afterward he returns to where he was from until https://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/3-21.htm

 

[Cameron143]

The part where you say "establish a time line for the future kingdom of 2000...." isn't what I'm meaning...
In Hosea 3 they would abide many days without a king https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea 3&version=KJV yet in Luke 23 there is the king being crowned https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 23&version=KJV Now afterward he returns to where he was from until https://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/3-21.htm

I'm not sure I would have signed up for this class if I knew it entailed so much homework.
It would help me greatly if you would just plainly write what you would have me to understand and then give the references. We have chatted several times so I trust that you have diligently searched the scripture and prayerfully considered them before the Father.

 

[iamsoandso]

I'm not sure I would have signed up for this class if I knew it entailed so much homework.
It would help me greatly if you would just plainly write what you would have me to understand and then give the references. We have chatted several times so I trust that you have diligently searched the scripture and prayerfully considered them before the Father.

I looked from the beginning of the thread and can only find our dialog from post #62 where you first spoke with me. I was speaking with HeIsHere in the post you quoted from me and apologize if you feel as though I am giving you homework assignments.

 

[Cameron143]

I looked from the beginning of the thread and can only find our dialog from post #62 where you first spoke with me. I was speaking with HeIsHere in the post you quoted from me and apologize if you feel as though I am giving you homework assignments.

I meant we have had previous conversations on other threads which I found helpful and have always observed the nature of your communication to be thoughtful and well-reasoned.

 

[iamsoandso]

I meant we have had previous conversations on other threads which I found helpful and have always observed the nature of your communication to be thoughtful and well-reasoned.

Oh I thought you were referring to this thread and that I didn't remember our dialog(my error)... Those two days you were asking about I do not see as a "future kingdom of 2000 years of the new era..." as you stated a few post back but instead as though the age of time that they were in when Jesus made his comment in Matthew 12:32. In that he states that there was "another age coming" in which there was an sin that would not be forgiven. So there was that age they were in when he stated this and he spoke of another coming afterwards wherein an sin still existed. So now if that age that was to come after that one they were in in Matt.12 is the final kingdom will sin exist in it(the 7th day,Mill,ect.)? If so how will sin exist in that new Jerusalem after the day of the Lord?

The last enemy that is destroyed is death https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 15:26-28&version=KJV and so an age of time can end and another begin until all judgment has come to pass. That is if the age that came when that one ended still had within it's time-frame the possibility in which there existed an sin that would not be forgiven it cannot be after the final day of judgment wherein no sin exist. So then as in the millennial day theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennial_Day_Theory where an age of time is ending and another beginning is in expression of those seven generations https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm of time(ages) and one was ending at that time(Matt,12,,,Matt.24:3) and another two ages were to come and then the Millennial kingdom.


goodnight for tonight...

 

[Cameron143]

Oh I thought you were referring to this thread and that I didn't remember our dialog(my error)... Those two days you were asking about I do not see as a "future kingdom of 2000 years of the new era..." as you stated a few post back but instead as though the age of time that they were in when Jesus made his comment in Matthew 12:32. In that he states that there was "another age coming" in which there was an sin that would not be forgiven. So there was that age they were in when he stated this and he spoke of another coming afterwards wherein an sin still existed. So now if that age that was to come after that one they were in in Matt.12 is the final kingdom will sin exist in it(the 7th day,Mill,ect.)? If so how will sin exist in that new Jerusalem after the day of the Lord?

The last enemy that is destroyed is death https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 15:26-28&version=KJV and so an age of time can end and another begin until all judgment has come to pass. That is if the age that came when that one ended still had within it's time-frame the possibility in which there existed an sin that would not be forgiven it cannot be after the final day of judgment wherein no sin exist. So then as in the millennial day theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennial_Day_Theory where an age of time is ending and another beginning is in expression of those seven generations https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm of time(ages) and one was ending at that time(Matt,12,,,Matt.24:3) and another two ages were to come and then the Millennial kingdom.


goodnight for tonight...

So you are saying Hosea doesn't match up with Matthew?

And good night.

 

[soberxp]

Are you meaning the generations of an man like the 1960's generation or the Generations of the Heavens and the earth like in Genesis 2:4? https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm think a little first because the very direct question the Disciples ask Jesus in Matthew 24:3 was about when that age/generation was going to end https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm

Don't you get it after reading the Bible for so long? How can it end if God keeps people alive, I mean alive after they leave this world, in another dimension or in the kingdom of God.

 

[soberxp]

https://barrysetterfield.org/Signs/Signs.html

"First: Joel 2:30-31 states, "And I will show wonders in the heavens, and in the earth blood and fire and pillars of smoke. And the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the great and terrible Day of the Lord comes.” The great & terrible Day of the Lord is also known as the “Great Tribulation” in the New Testament. This is a period of 7 years just prior Christ’s Millennial reign.

Pillars of smoke? The Hebrew word translated "pillars" is "timmorah." It is used 21 times in the Old Testament. Only twice is the word translated as "pillars." The other 19 times it is translated as "palm tree." So there is to be "blood and fire and palm-trees of smoke." That is a very accurate picturing of the hydrogen bomb. The atomic bomb (on the right, below) is referred to as a mushroom cloud, not a pillar. But look at the hydrogen bomb, on the left below."

Nahum 2:3-4 reads:“Chariots of flashing steel will rage in the streets. They will jostle one against another in the broad roads; they will run like the lightning; they will move with blazing torches… In the day of His preparation to Come.”

How else could cars and trucks have been described at that time?

In the middle of describing the Lord’s Return, the prophet Isaiah (60:8) stops and asks: “Who are these that fly like a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?”

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Fourth: Prophecies in Amos 9:2 and Obadiah 4 may imply space-craft just prior to the Tribulation.

Amos 9:2 -- "Though you climb up to the heavens, from there I will bring you down … says the Lord God, who touches the earth and it melts (in the Tribulation)."

Obadiah 4 -- "Though you exalt yourself and … set your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down (in the Tribulation), says the LORD."

I think God's word is like a two-edged sword, and it may not just mean these technology products that we have seen,maybe still something we have not seen.

 

[iamsoandso]

So you are saying Hosea doesn't match up with Matthew?

And good night.

No, I'm saying Hosea 6:2 is in reference to those same ages of time ,,,"after two days" but that when the Messiah(Jesus) came and was cut off and the age ended and another began is in the "middle of the week" https://biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/9-27.htm (see verse 26 also)... But what week,the week in Genesis 2:4 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm so Wednesday was about to end when Jesus came(in the middle),,, then the age they ask about in Matthew 24:3 ended in ad70 and Thursday and Friday were still to come(two one thousand year ages) and then the Seventh...

 

[iamsoandso]

Don't you get it after reading the Bible for so long? How can it end if God keeps people alive, I mean alive after they leave this world, in another dimension or in the kingdom of God.

How will you eat the body and drink the blood of that Cross and not be alive? Do you think there will come an day when you will no longer partake of it?

 

[soberxp]

How will you eat the body and drink the blood of that Cross and not be alive? Do you think there will come an day when you will no longer partake of it?

Let it go of what I'VE done, if God Command me not to enter the kingdom of heaven, I will not despair and regret,I will obey the order, cuz I know every word of God is life.

 

[HeIsHere]

You do lack understanding there is no shame in admitting it but don't go around parading it as an opinion or a believe.

States the person who is "unsure" on their spiritual status.