Technological Signs relating to Christ’s Coming are being fulfilled.
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Locoponydirtman
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The nation state of Israel is not fully soveriegn or muslims would not occupy the temple mount.
Im not willing to ignor what is written,
“Now it shall come to pass, when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God drives you, and you return to the Lord your God and obey His voice, according to all that I command you today, you and your children, with all your heart and with all your soul, that the Lord your God will bring you back from captivity, and have compassion on you, and gather you again from all the nations where the Lord your God has scattered you.
Deuteronomy 30:1-3 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/deu.30.1-3.NKJV
There is nothing left to be said here. We are never going to agree.
And there you go. That is NOT the temple mount; it is the 36 Antonia fortress Roman garrison. Exactly where Acts 21 and Josephus said it was. As I said....Biblical literacy and situational awareness. The futurists have both.
Act 21:32
Who immediately took soldiers and centurions, and ran down unto them: and when they saw the chief captain and the soldiers, they left beating of Paul.
Watch these videos. PLEASE. The actual location of the Temple is in the CITY OF DAVID.....ISRAELI TERRITORY...RIGHT NOW. A fact now utterly conclusive beyond a shadow of a doubt. The Gihon spring and Hezekiah's tunnel is NOT located on the Antonia garrison.
It is not the restitution/redemption of the nation Israel (proposed by the "futurists") that is Satanic.
In fact it is the DENIAL of the restitution/redemption of the nation Israel (proposed by the "preterists" and "amillenialists") that is Satanic.
Satan has been trying to defy God's plan of redemption for Israel by his many attempts to destroy them as a people for a long long time.
And the LAST TIME will be when the man of sin rises to prominence (yet future) to do Satan's will and make a final vain attempt exterminate the Jewish people.
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Locoponydirtman
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You didnt address the scripture.
Or the fact that Muslims and Israelies have been squabbling over the temple mount since 1948.
The fact of scripture shows that they have not been gathered by God. And the fact that muslims still occupy an ares that has been called the temple mount for generation by the Israelies living there for generation until recently, shows they are a UN puppet state; just more babylon. A counterfeit to deceive the Biblically illiterate.
I agree with everything that you have posted. I thought the same thing years ago when reading Jerimiah about the pillars of smoke being the result of nuclear detonations. The other verses relating to the end were very interesting as well.https://barrysetterfield.org/Signs/Signs.html
"First: Joel 2:30-31 states, "And I will show wonders in the heavens, and in the earth blood and fire and pillars of smoke. And the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the great and terrible Day of the Lord comes.” The great & terrible Day of the Lord is also known as the “Great Tribulation” in the New Testament. This is a period of 7 years just prior Christ’s Millennial reign.
Pillars of smoke? The Hebrew word translated "pillars" is "timmorah." It is used 21 times in the Old Testament. Only twice is the word translated as "pillars." The other 19 times it is translated as "palm tree." So there is to be "blood and fire and palm-trees of smoke." That is a very accurate picturing of the hydrogen bomb. The atomic bomb (on the right, below) is referred to as a mushroom cloud, not a pillar. But look at the hydrogen bomb, on the left below."
Nahum 2:3-4 reads:“Chariots of flashing steel will rage in the streets. They will jostle one against another in the broad roads; they will run like the lightning; they will move with blazing torches… In the day of His preparation to Come.”
How else could cars and trucks have been described at that time?
In the middle of describing the Lord’s Return, the prophet Isaiah (60:8) stops and asks: “Who are these that fly like a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?”
Fourth: Prophecies in Amos 9:2 and Obadiah 4 may imply space-craft just prior to the Tribulation.
Amos 9:2 -- "Though you climb up to the heavens, from there I will bring you down … says the Lord God, who touches the earth and it melts (in the Tribulation)."
Obadiah 4 -- "Though you exalt yourself and … set your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down (in the Tribulation), says the LORD."
Refuse these facts at your peril. The redemption of the nation Israel is......inevitable. And an absolutely necessary prerequisite for the SC and millennial reign of Christ.
https://christianchat.com/threads/technological-signs-relating-to-christ’s-coming-are-being-fulfilled.209446/post-5019185
That 36 acres site IS NOT THE TEMPLE MOUNT. That is what THE BIBLICALLY ILLITERATE MUSLIMS AND (some - not all) JEWS BELIEVE. It is also what BIBLICALLY ILLITERATE UNBELIEVING GENTILES BELIEVE.
In fact that site is the Fortress Antonia. That what the Biblically LITERATE Christians believe.
And since you also believe what the clueless Muslims believe, YOU are also Biblically illiterate in that regard.
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pablocito
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https://barrysetterfield.org/Signs/Signs.html
"First: Joel 2:30-31 states, "And I will show wonders in the heavens, and in the earth blood and fire and pillars of smoke. And the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the great and terrible Day of the Lord comes.” The great & terrible Day of the Lord is also known as the “Great Tribulation” in the New Testament. This is a period of 7 years just prior Christ’s Millennial reign.
Pillars of smoke? The Hebrew word translated "pillars" is "timmorah." It is used 21 times in the Old Testament. Only twice is the word translated as "pillars." The other 19 times it is translated as "palm tree." So there is to be "blood and fire and palm-trees of smoke." That is a very accurate picturing of the hydrogen bomb. The atomic bomb (on the right, below) is referred to as a mushroom cloud, not a pillar. But look at the hydrogen bomb, on the left below."
Nahum 2:3-4 reads:“Chariots of flashing steel will rage in the streets. They will jostle one against another in the broad roads; they will run like the lightning; they will move with blazing torches… In the day of His preparation to Come.”
How else could cars and trucks have been described at that time?
In the middle of describing the Lord’s Return, the prophet Isaiah (60:8) stops and asks: “Who are these that fly like a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?”
Fourth: Prophecies in Amos 9:2 and Obadiah 4 may imply space-craft just prior to the Tribulation.
Amos 9:2 -- "Though you climb up to the heavens, from there I will bring you down … says the Lord God, who touches the earth and it melts (in the Tribulation)."
Obadiah 4 -- "Though you exalt yourself and … set your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down (in the Tribulation), says the LORD."
I cannot post on this site more than one time. My post is a warning. I am prohibited from debating the instruments of science as recorded by Paul in the book of Timothy.
1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.
Science in today's world will be the reason for billions of people, yes billions of people going to hell.
Science has been around from before the days of Christ but Paul calls it false.
I believe that it will be responsible for basically all people going to hell. ( probably more so than the love of money.)
There is really nothing else to say except take heed to the commandments and warnings of the bible.
Bro.....sin that is not paid for by the Blood of Jesus is what sends people to the lake of fire. Not "science".
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Locoponydirtman
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Refuse this fact at your peril.
Now it shall come to pass, when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God drives you, and you return to the Lord your God and obey His voice, according to all that I command you today, you and your children, with all your heart and with all your soul, that the Lord your God will bring you back from captivity, and have compassion on you, and gather you again from all the nations where the Lord your God has scattered you.
Deuteronomy 30:1-3 NKJV
Refuse? I agree 1000% with this prophecy. As I do with ever other of them. There are HUNDREDS of passages with similar sentiment.
Isa 27:12
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel.
Isa 27:13
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.
This is the promised final gathering, occurring after the SC.
I think what you MEANT to say was something like:
People who put their trust and faith in "science" and believe the false anti-God claims of "science" are "going to hell".
This I agree with yes. It is so.
1 Timothy 6:
20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
Paul is not calling science [itself] false - he is warning against 'oppositions of science' that are 'falsely so called' - things claimed to be 'science' that actually 'oppose' real science.
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pablocito
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These verses point to what is happening today.
2Th_2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
In the above verse "those miracles" are not true miracles but the same type that the Egyptian magicians and astronomers and sorcerers practiced in Moses's days in front of Pharaoh. (And of course in our days, the magical wonders performed by science)
NB!!! Only God does real miracles.