Does 1 John 1:9 mean we have to repent more than once?
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John 3:16 spoken by the lord Jesus Christ isn’t accurate ? So probably he has this answer wrong too ?
“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”
John 6:28-29 KJV
And all the prophets they also were wrong
“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”
Acts 10:43 KJV
Paul too
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Romans 10:13 KJV
Of course Jesus again had it wrong
“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:16 KJV
And Luke also quoting Joel
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Acts 2:21 KJV
That name is Jesus
“But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
Romans 10:8-9 KJV
Is that all inaccurate also ? Orrrrrr is it just plain truth that is our foundation upon which all the rest is built ?
It’s like I was saying brother your trying to assume everyone else has read all the same scriptures you have and they all understand the exact things you understand
your trying to force feed steak and potatoes to babes kids and adults and only the adults are going to ever digest the best and potatoes, yet your trying to say “ if you don’t gobble up the meat you don’t belong “
Your perceiving everything as if what you understand and have read and heard in scriptire being the standard for all others but it isn’t that’s your own standard for when you go answer for your life’s work this day
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
ashen you go there it’s not going to be according to what I know and understand from scripture that judges you it’s going to be according to what you understand between you and the lord he knows what we know and what we don’t know that’s going to be the standard what you know is meant to make you grow up nd what some other younger person knows is meant for them at that time they will grow by it as you do also
But no John 3:16 is the simplest and most accurate description of salvation in the Bible bar none. Without that belief in Jesus nothing else will ever stand
As you grow up your standard also goes up but you never ever stop believing in Jesus Christ for salvstion that’s really I hope not what your claiming
“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”
John 6:28-29 KJV
And all the prophets they also were wrong
“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”
Acts 10:43 KJV
Paul too
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Romans 10:13 KJV
Of course Jesus again had it wrong
“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:16 KJV
And Luke also quoting Joel
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Acts 2:21 KJV
That name is Jesus
“But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
Romans 10:8-9 KJV
Is that all inaccurate also ? Orrrrrr is it just plain truth that is our foundation upon which all the rest is built ?
It’s like I was saying brother your trying to assume everyone else has read all the same scriptures you have and they all understand the exact things you understand
your trying to force feed steak and potatoes to babes kids and adults and only the adults are going to ever digest the best and potatoes, yet your trying to say “ if you don’t gobble up the meat you don’t belong “
Your perceiving everything as if what you understand and have read and heard in scriptire being the standard for all others but it isn’t that’s your own standard for when you go answer for your life’s work this day
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
ashen you go there it’s not going to be according to what I know and understand from scripture that judges you it’s going to be according to what you understand between you and the lord he knows what we know and what we don’t know that’s going to be the standard what you know is meant to make you grow up nd what some other younger person knows is meant for them at that time they will grow by it as you do also
But no John 3:16 is the simplest and most accurate description of salvation in the Bible bar none. Without that belief in Jesus nothing else will ever stand
As you grow up your standard also goes up but you never ever stop believing in Jesus Christ for salvstion that’s really I hope not what your claiming
So you’re saying then Jesus isnt really God just a copy ?
well I think that about does it for me on this one it’s going to a really not good place in my opinion
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
Genesis 1:1 KJV
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ( not a copy of him )
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. ( not a copy of him the creator in the world )
And the Word ( God ) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1, 3-4, 10, 14 KJV
If I wanted to briefly summarize I’d say
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, ( not a copy ofnGod ) justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
aim seeing that we have a lot of uncommon beliefs so I’m gone let this rest
well I think that about does it for me on this one it’s going to a really not good place in my opinion
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
Genesis 1:1 KJV
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ( not a copy of him )
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. ( not a copy of him the creator in the world )
And the Word ( God ) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1, 3-4, 10, 14 KJV
If I wanted to briefly summarize I’d say
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, ( not a copy ofnGod ) justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
aim seeing that we have a lot of uncommon beliefs so I’m gone let this rest
And when you read Jesus words at Matt 7:22-23--- you see believe actually means more than just belief, because those judged negative there believe . Jesus showed the problem-they worked iniquity= practiced a sin. Thus it takes learning and applying EVERY utterance from God, as Jesus taught man MUST live by them. Not pick and choose but obey every utterance, so as to know what God dislikes so as to not practice it. Many Jaws will be dropped hearing those words from Jesus at judgement--And he showed there, no matter how much think you loved him to do those things in his name-if one practices a sin-they lose. Hebrews 10:26 is clear on that as well. And there is 0 doubt that those who do powerful works and the such in Jesus name-believe.
And when you read Jesus words at Matt 7:22-23--- you see believe actually means more than just belief”
Not at all , no. Belief means belief
what you are talking about is the learning process that comes when we first believe
In order to believe something you have to do More than just read it once , it has to actually sink into your understanding you have to receive conviction from it
about what you said there to begin with
“ as you actually start learning from Jesus in whom you believe , your going to start growing in understanding and at that point your beginning your brand new lifetime journey of learning from and following after Jesus and his gospel
a when I was eighteen I thought I knew it all , when I was thirty five I realized I didn’t know anything at all at 18 , when I was sixty I realized what a fool I was at thirty five . Now I realize God was protecting me all along because when I was 18 I wasn’t prepared or able to live up to it
sits really simple what I’m saying it’s a process like a plant you have be seeded and then grow roots , then you start growing out of the ground a little leaf pretty soon you have a stock with foliage eventually your a fruitful bush because you have matured
Like what Jesus said
“And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
and should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.
For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade,
then the ear,
after that the full corn in the ear.”
Mark 4:26-28 KJV
It’s a process so a mature bush and a seedling just growing out of the ground they have two entirely different expectations you don’t go looking for fruit on a seedling you have to find a good mature tree to see the good fruit no matter how much thirty sixty ninety all that matters is good fruit not how much
it’s a continuing process of God working on us and us pressing forward into it
“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
Philippians 2:13 KJV
hes always changing us for the better as we learn and believe what a person understands and is accountable for grows over a lifetime.
The basics are where salvstion is found but sooner or later we begin to grow up and then th t new thing we’re learning becomes where salvstion is found built upon the other basic thing as any understanding of any subject So is the gospel
salvation is only belief only true belief
But it’s to believe what we hear of the gospel he sent into the world not to invent our own belief like many do
jesus is a gentle and patient teacher to believers and his yoke is nothing like the burden of the ot
“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Matthew 11:28-30 KJV
Trusting in Jesus for salvation is the only way that’s the reason we’re going to acutually start paying attention to his word because we believe in him and know he’s not going to lead us astray
What you are talking about is maturing in Christ , the babes are already belonging to jesus though and they will learn ofnthey keep in belief and hearing his word
They aren’t going to read the gospel once and then know everything he said and understand it it’s a commitment to start hearing and following him because you believe
Not at all , no. Belief means belief
what you are talking about is the learning process that comes when we first believe
In order to believe something you have to do More than just read it once , it has to actually sink into your understanding you have to receive conviction from it
about what you said there to begin with
“ as you actually start learning from Jesus in whom you believe , your going to start growing in understanding and at that point your beginning your brand new lifetime journey of learning from and following after Jesus and his gospel
a when I was eighteen I thought I knew it all , when I was thirty five I realized I didn’t know anything at all at 18 , when I was sixty I realized what a fool I was at thirty five . Now I realize God was protecting me all along because when I was 18 I wasn’t prepared or able to live up to it
sits really simple what I’m saying it’s a process like a plant you have be seeded and then grow roots , then you start growing out of the ground a little leaf pretty soon you have a stock with foliage eventually your a fruitful bush because you have matured
Like what Jesus said
“And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
and should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.
For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade,
then the ear,
after that the full corn in the ear.”
Mark 4:26-28 KJV
It’s a process so a mature bush and a seedling just growing out of the ground they have two entirely different expectations you don’t go looking for fruit on a seedling you have to find a good mature tree to see the good fruit no matter how much thirty sixty ninety all that matters is good fruit not how much
it’s a continuing process of God working on us and us pressing forward into it
“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
Philippians 2:13 KJV
hes always changing us for the better as we learn and believe what a person understands and is accountable for grows over a lifetime.
The basics are where salvstion is found but sooner or later we begin to grow up and then th t new thing we’re learning becomes where salvstion is found built upon the other basic thing as any understanding of any subject So is the gospel
salvation is only belief only true belief
But it’s to believe what we hear of the gospel he sent into the world not to invent our own belief like many do
jesus is a gentle and patient teacher to believers and his yoke is nothing like the burden of the ot
“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Matthew 11:28-30 KJV
Trusting in Jesus for salvation is the only way that’s the reason we’re going to acutually start paying attention to his word because we believe in him and know he’s not going to lead us astray
What you are talking about is maturing in Christ , the babes are already belonging to jesus though and they will learn ofnthey keep in belief and hearing his word
They aren’t going to read the gospel once and then know everything he said and understand it it’s a commitment to start hearing and following him because you believe