Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?

[Snacks]

I will need scripture proof of all mankind being justified.

The natural man, before he has been quickened ( born again ) to the new spiritual life, is prohibited from believing in the things of the Spirit, thinking them to be foolishness (1 Cor 2:14).

You conveniently added the word “prohibited” in the verse you shared. Not sure if you’re deliberately misleading people, you’re misguided, or both.

 

[brightfame52]

Matt 11- Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

Come to me... no not you lot!! You can't come. Just those over there. Is that what that verse is saying to you?!

Romans 10:13
For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Oh again, not all of you, just you few over there. Rest of you are doomed. Can't be saved no matter what you try.

No, the Bible does not teach that. Why would Jesus make the offer to come, drink, try me and then refuse those who come. No, utterly false doctrine. Whosoever will may come. Bible is 100% clear about that.

For the regenerated elect !

 

[kaylagrl]

For the regenerated elect !

No, the call to salvation is to whosoever will!! Not all will accept, but the invitation is to all.

 

[brightfame52]

No, the call to salvation is to whosoever will!! Not all will accept, but the invitation is to all.

Yes, otherwise men are dead to God. BTW those are not offers, they are imperatives, which are commands and so again they are to the regenerated.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

God's invitation is to ALL.

Look to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. 1 Timothy 2:3-6

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9


And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17


For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Romans 1:16


That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For "whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:9-13

God scattered his, disobedient, nation of Israel (his lost sheep) TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH (Isaiah 26:15) and has instructed his disciples to go and preach the gospel to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matt 10:6) (Matt 15:24).

ALL MEN, pertains to all of the men under consideration. 1 Tim - Paul is instructing Timothy to abide still at Ephesus to charge some, in the church, that they teach no other doctrine, from which some having swerved, have turned aside unto vain jangling.

1 Tim 2:1-4, Timothy is instructed to pray for all men ( that are in authority in Ephesus) that we (the church at Ephesus) may lead a quiet and peaceful life, for this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men ( those who are preaching a false doctrine) to be saved (delivered) and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Saved, according to Greek means delivered. There is a deliverance for all babes in Christ when they come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2 Pet 3:9 - Peter is speaking to those that have "like precious faith" (2 Pet 1:1), warning them when they commit a sin, they separate=death=perish, themselves from God's fellowship (temporary) with God until they repent. Peter even includes himself by using the word "usward".

Rom 1:16 - The only people that hear and believe in Spiritual things (1 Cor 2:14), are his sheep (John 10:26-29).

Confessing and believing in the things of the Spirit is not possible for the natural man (1 Cor 2:14).

 

[kaylagrl]

Yes, otherwise men are dead to God. BTW those are not offers, they are imperatives, which are commands and so again they are to the regenerated.

The call to salvation is to ALL mankind. We agree?

 

[kaylagrl]

ALL MEN.

Whosoever will. ALL. Every man/woman. The message is to all who hear and believe. Period. Total depravity is a false man made doctrine, the Bible doesn't teach it. All who hear and believe. Not all will believe, but His blood was shed for all, the invitation is to whosoever will.

 

[brightfame52]

The call to salvation is to ALL mankind. We agree?

No, the call is to the elect.

 

[brightfame52]

Whosoever will. ALL. Every man/woman. The message is to all who hear and believe. Period. Total depravity is a false man made doctrine, the Bible doesn't teach it. All who hear and believe. Not all will believe, but His blood was shed for all, the invitation is to whosoever will.

You teaching false doctrine.

 

[kaylagrl]

You teaching false doctrine.

No, I am not "teaching" anything. I am posting the Word of God. Total depravity is false man made doctrine and a lie.

 

[brightfame52]

No, I am not "teaching" anything. I am posting the Word of God. Total depravity is false man made doctrine and a lie.

Yes you are teaching false doctrine, and speaking evil against the Truth of God, Total inability is a Godly Doctrine.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Yes you are teaching false doctrine, and speaking evil against the Truth of God, Total inability is a Godly Doctrine.

So is Free Will!

If one does not submit to God, God won't force Himself upon anyone who chooses to refuse Him.

Pharaoh refused God every time and God allowed him to become hardened. Bible even states Pharaoh chose to harden himself before God completely hardened him.

Take your Jim Jones method and drink your own coolaid

 

[CorrectiveLens]

How is that fair?! He created a whole people knowing they would have no choice but to perish? That they cannot be saved? That is not the God I serve. That is a cruel god.

God created only Adam and Eve who disobeyed God and ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The Bible clearly states that where there is no law, there is no transgression, but because they ate from that tree, their posterity is born with this knowledge which means that all humans are born under the law of conscience. We all fail and are all condemned except for Jesus who was also born under this law because of His human side. God did not create you. We are all procreated from Adam and Eve and fail because we love ourselves and the world more than everyone else including God. The Father demands perfection in His kingdom and that is why our sins are washed away when we put our trust in Jesus' death and are then perfected by His Holy Spirit who changes our motives from love of self to love of God first and love for everyone else second. Those that are born again are thankful for His mercy. Those that are not would think Him cruel and unloving.

 

[WillB]

The Bible says all will not be saved. It means that God choses to not override our free will to chose a path of destruction, though He desires salvation for all.

Luke 13
23Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?”
He said to them, 24“Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.

2 Peter 3
9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

So when you said : "God wills all to be saved" what you meant wasn't that he 'wills' all to be saved ...and it's His 'desire' that all would be saved - and there's a huge difference between desiring and willing.

 

[Runningman]

So when you said : "God wills all to be saved" what you meant wasn't that he 'wills' all to be saved ...and it's His 'desire' that all would be saved - and there's a huge difference between desiring and willing.

Wills can mean different things depending on how it's used, but desiring or yearning for something are acceptable synonyms for wills.

 

[brightfame52]

Wills can mean different things depending on how it's used, but desiring or yearning for something are acceptable synonyms for wills.

What the True God desires He performs it Job 23:13-14

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.

And some of mankind were made appointed to wrath, as others were not 1 Thess 5:9

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Now it would contradict Gods own appointment and purpose to desire or will that those He has appointed to wrath to be saved.

 

[kaylagrl]

God did not create you.

He did not? I think we have a problem right out of the gate.

Those that are born again are thankful for His mercy. Those that are not would think Him cruel and unloving.

No that is different then saying there is an entire people created for destruction. That they cannot respond. That IS cruel and unloving.

 

[MessengerofTruth]

For the regenerated elect !

"And He is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world." 1John 2:2

 

[CorrectiveLens]

He did not? I think we have a problem right out of the gate.



No that is different then saying there is an entire people created for destruction. That they cannot respond. That IS cruel and unloving.

You were created by your mother and father.

 

[kaylagrl]

"And He is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world." 1John 2:2

It can't get clearer than that.