Is The Earth Flat Or Round?
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Don't you mean 'ament'? 
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I meant that as a joke - as in - after the aliens take over, they make everyone 'conform'...
Just teasing you...
Just teasing you...
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The video was not edited, other than that irrelevant parts to the point were removed, so people with limited time could see this is something Buzz Aldrin said, without getting caught up in the uninteresting noise. From about 7:00...
The girl said "Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?"
Buzz Aldrin replied "That's not an 8-year-old's question. That's my question. I want to know. But I think I know. Because we didn't go there. That's the way it happened. And if it didn't happen it's nice to know why it didn't happen so in the future if we want to keep doing something we need to know why something stopped in the past if we want to keep it going."
I repeat - Buzz Aldrin admitted he did not go to the moon. If he didn't go to the moon, but NASA claim there was a moon landing, the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that the moon landing was faked. Buzz couldn't say it outright, because that's the sort of thing astro-nots from NASA have been killed for in the past. Nonetheless, he admitted that he didn't go to the moon.
The girl said "Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?"
Buzz Aldrin replied "That's not an 8-year-old's question. That's my question. I want to know. But I think I know. Because we didn't go there. That's the way it happened. And if it didn't happen it's nice to know why it didn't happen so in the future if we want to keep doing something we need to know why something stopped in the past if we want to keep it going."
I repeat - Buzz Aldrin admitted he did not go to the moon. If he didn't go to the moon, but NASA claim there was a moon landing, the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that the moon landing was faked. Buzz couldn't say it outright, because that's the sort of thing astro-nots from NASA have been killed for in the past. Nonetheless, he admitted that he didn't go to the moon.
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Why is it so hard to believe men walked on the moon, yet we don't question the idea of God becoming man and walking among us? If the Earth is flat, why don't we ever hear about plans flying off the edge of it, or at least into the ice wall that surrounds Antarctica? Do people really expect to see the curvature of the earth when they look into the horizon? Do you have any idea how large our planet is? It's at least a little bigger than a basketball.
I think some people cling to these strange beliefs because they look around the world, they don't like what they see, and, well, anything we're taught by "the world" can't be good or right, can it? I mean, the whole world out there is evil, right? And even most people who call themselves christians are just sinners trying to get a free pass to heaven. They want to do the crime - sinning here on earth - but they don't want to do the time - never ending, conscious eternal torment in the lake of fire. Yeah, just throw out everything your parents and your teachers taught you because they're all hellfire breathing demons trying to drag you down to hell. They're all freemasons and satanists.
So we look to the Bible and see references to "the ends of the earth", "four corners of the earth" and we think we're reading a science book.
That gets back to the idea that we were supposed to take every word of the Bible literally.
If that's the case, then I better gouge out my eyes, because Jesus says if I man finds a woman attractive, it would be better for him to gouge out his eyes than have his eyes cause him to sin - and men being attracted to women is sinful. Hey, I better cut off my arms, too, I might do something sinful with them.
And our churches sure are full of divorced people these days. I guess we don't take seriously Jesus' commandments regarding remarriage.
I don't know where I'm going with this, just that i don't think we have to take all of these passages literally. There are stories offered to us in the Bible for edification, to learn from. Does there have to be a historical Prodigal Son for us to gain something from that story? Do they have to be actual pillars of the earth for us to believe God created our world and all the creatures in it?
I think some people cling to these strange beliefs because they look around the world, they don't like what they see, and, well, anything we're taught by "the world" can't be good or right, can it? I mean, the whole world out there is evil, right? And even most people who call themselves christians are just sinners trying to get a free pass to heaven. They want to do the crime - sinning here on earth - but they don't want to do the time - never ending, conscious eternal torment in the lake of fire. Yeah, just throw out everything your parents and your teachers taught you because they're all hellfire breathing demons trying to drag you down to hell. They're all freemasons and satanists.
So we look to the Bible and see references to "the ends of the earth", "four corners of the earth" and we think we're reading a science book.
That gets back to the idea that we were supposed to take every word of the Bible literally.
If that's the case, then I better gouge out my eyes, because Jesus says if I man finds a woman attractive, it would be better for him to gouge out his eyes than have his eyes cause him to sin - and men being attracted to women is sinful. Hey, I better cut off my arms, too, I might do something sinful with them.
And our churches sure are full of divorced people these days. I guess we don't take seriously Jesus' commandments regarding remarriage.
I don't know where I'm going with this, just that i don't think we have to take all of these passages literally. There are stories offered to us in the Bible for edification, to learn from. Does there have to be a historical Prodigal Son for us to gain something from that story? Do they have to be actual pillars of the earth for us to believe God created our world and all the creatures in it?
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There are too many points to debate here, so I'm not going to try (the tactic is known as "elephant hurling"). Suffice it to say, those who believe in Flat Earth do so against the bulk of society and all propaganda to the contrary. There is a valid reason they do so - because they have critically examined the evidence for ball-Earth, and find it lacking, so go with their observation and what scripture implies - that Earth is flat.
This is another misunderstanding of scripture, I believe. Men find women attractive - that's how God designed us, and is not a sin. Jesus said "whoever lusts after a woman has committed adultery with her in his heart." Lust isn't about finding a woman attractive - it's about desiring to have intimate relations with her without regard to her, her husband or ones' self (and usually, in my opinion, it is only fear that prevents the desire turning into action - fear of the woman's rejection of the advance, fear of the husband's response to the violation of his wife, fear of being caught etc.)
Matthew 21:31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
The prodigal son was a parable. God's descriptions of how He created the Earth is not.
There are too many points to debate here, so I'm not going to try (the tactic is known as "elephant hurling"). Suffice it to say, those who believe in Flat Earth do so against the bulk of society and all propaganda to the contrary. There is a valid reason they do so - because they have critically examined the evidence for ball-Earth, and find it lacking, so go with their observation and what scripture implies - that Earth is flat.
This is another misunderstanding of scripture, I believe. Men find women attractive - that's how God designed us, and is not a sin. Jesus said "whoever lusts after a woman has committed adultery with her in his heart." Lust isn't about finding a woman attractive - it's about desiring to have intimate relations with her without regard to her, her husband or ones' self (and usually, in my opinion, it is only fear that prevents the desire turning into action - fear of the woman's rejection of the advance, fear of the husband's response to the violation of his wife, fear of being caught etc.)
Matthew 21:31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
The prodigal son was a parable. God's descriptions of how He created the Earth is not.
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I agree, but when Jesus was telling a non-literal story, the context made it pretty clear. We must base our understanding on the context of the Bible, not the faulty wisdom of man or his prevailing opinions. We should take Bible things literally when there is no biblical reason or evidence to the contrary.
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