Christians response to gay marriage?

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Dude653

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Dude653 ...you are lukewarm, You try and post in vagueness you are not good at it yet keep trying
Pretentious lunch? You need to get over yourself
I have tried to have a civil exchange with you but all you want to do is insult me
 

Beckie

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Pretentious lunch? You need to get over yourself
I have tried to have a civil exchange with you but all you want to do is insult me
Civil i have been civil i call it like i see it and so do you so what is not civil? Neither of us is forcing the other to engage in conversation.
 

Dude653

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I've made my opinion on this issue pretty clear. That's the exact opposite of lukewarm. Also you're still dodging my question.
Who is forcing anything on you?
 

Dude653

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Correct it is just the search listing of your posts.
I clicked the link and it goes nowhere
Maybe provide a screenshot of just one time I have attacked scriptures
 

Dude653

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Newsflash: not possible for those in Christ and who those who have Christ in them.
I'll tell you the same thing I told Beckie, if you want to have a conversation we can but maybe tone down the condescension
 

Dude653

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I had my own personal reasons for leaving the faith, if anyone is interested we can have that conversation in private but I'm not here to talk anyone out of their faith
 

Papermonkey

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Right and often things are more nuanced than what's on the surface it's not as simple as just.... IMMIGRANTS BAD
or......ALL COPS BAD.....ect
Not all Conservatives or Liberals believe in the all bad construct.

There's nothing wrong with expecting a people who want to advantage themselves in America to do so by immigrating legally.

We're the only country that encourages law breaking in that regard. And even have tax payers that are OK with working harder to support them.
 

Papermonkey

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I asked for an example of something being forced on you?
A perverse nomenclature.
One that insists ''men'' menustrate and give birth. And ''women'' have a penis. And if one disagrees they're identified as being afraid. And if they work for the wrong corporation, they will have to take a gender sensitivity training course . This is designed to force a change to their way of thinking in order to continue to earn a living.

Just one example.
 

Papermonkey

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I had my own personal reasons for leaving the faith, if anyone is interested we can have that conversation in private but I'm not here to talk anyone out of their faith
Clearly, when you are still on this forum you haven't left the faith.
 

HeIsHere

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I'll tell you the same thing I told Beckie, if you want to have a conversation we can but maybe tone down the condescension
Are you feeling persecuted, lol.

No condescension just a statement of biblical fact.
No one justified by God can un-justify themselves.
 

Dude653

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A perverse nomenclature.
One that insists ''men'' menustrate and give birth. And ''women'' have a penis. And if one disagrees they're identified as being afraid. And if they work for the wrong corporation, they will have to take a gender sensitivity training course . This is designed to force a change to their way of thinking in order to continue to earn a living.

Just one example.
Well if someone wants to identify as another gender then I will tell them okay cool do you because someone's life choices doesn't have anything to do with me but I agree that no one should be forced to use someone's gender pronouns
 

JohnDB

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Look,
Christianity is not about morals...by that I mean that you have to fall inside a certain level of morality and you instantly become "one of us".
If only it was that easy a large portion of mankind would gain access to heaven. But we know that isn't true.

And the line for Christians is that we don't like to watch people commit spiritual suicide. By either legal mandate or otherwise. We don't approve of child molestation....because it harms the child. It doesn't matter if the child is 15 or 17...it isn't good for them.

In the same manner it is not a benefit for a society to devolve into homosexuality. It's not the repugnant act itself that is the problem as much as the depravity that goes along with those who wish to engage in such things.
 

Dude653

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Look,
Christianity is not about morals...by that I mean that you have to fall inside a certain level of morality and you instantly become "one of us".
If only it was that easy a large portion of mankind would gain access to heaven. But we know that isn't true.

And the line for Christians is that we don't like to watch people commit spiritual suicide. By either legal mandate or otherwise. We don't approve of child molestation....because it harms the child. It doesn't matter if the child is 15 or 17...it isn't good for them.

In the same manner it is not a benefit for a society to devolve into homosexuality. It's not the repugnant act itself that is the problem as much as the depravity that goes along with those who wish to engage in such things.
Homosexuals are just under 4% of the population so I don't think society is "devolving into homosexuality"
I'm not going to magically turn gay because I saw two gay guys holding hands. That's not how it works in reality
Also I don't waste an ounce of my energy caring about what consenting adults are doing.
 

Beckie

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Homosexuals are just under 4% of the population so I don't think society is "devolving into homosexuality"
I'm not going to magically turn gay because I saw two gay guys holding hands. That's not how it works in reality
Also I don't waste an ounce of my energy caring about what consenting adults are doing.
You have spent energy here caring about what this adult consents to post. I never said people were forcing their beliefs on me i said on Christians .
 

JohnDB

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Homosexuals are just under 4% of the population so I don't think society is "devolving into homosexuality"
I'm not going to magically turn gay because I saw two gay guys holding hands. That's not how it works in reality
Also I don't waste an ounce of my energy caring about what consenting adults are doing.
You used the term "consenting adults".

And truthfully, they have no concept of what they are consenting to because emotionally they are damaged to the point that they have a skewed view of right and wrong. They are mentally unstable. That includes the gambit of narcissistic tendencies to gender dysphoria and all points in between.

Where these people are less than 5% of the population...they also have no qualms about moral turpitude...
Which was once a reason that they were unable to engage in large contracts...including life insurance. (Once upon a time corporate America actually had a conscience instead of all greed all the time)

Which brings us to the point of normalizing mental health. At what point do we stop incarceration or hospitalizing those with moral turpitude? We certainly do not want to encourage such behaviors....but that is exactly what you are arguing in favor of. Yes, they have some functionality in society but because of the moral turpitude they are always seeking to enlist more people into perversion and a breakdown of our society.

Look, Mexico is a "Christian " nation of Catholics. But the place is a cesspool. Full of drugs, gangs, sex slaves, and every perversion possible. Sure there are pockets of decency but a two block radius surrounded by armed guards really isn't the sort of place I want to live.