Senate passes same-sex marriage bill with bipartisan support
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What people? I see some trying to lump this into the LGBTQ+ while at the same time I see people in that community objecting, groups like "gays against groomers".
As far as I can tell the vast majority of Christians consider LGBTQ to be lifestyle choices made by adults, so although they may agree with the Bible that it is sin, they don't view it as criminal. That is not true of pedophilia.
I am not aware of any Christian group that would publicly legitimize pedophilia. Even among the majority of atheists and agnostics it seems they view this as criminal.
The only group that may disagree may be Islam. It seems child brides are legitimized by some and would not be seen as a crime.
As far as I can tell the vast majority of Christians consider LGBTQ to be lifestyle choices made by adults, so although they may agree with the Bible that it is sin, they don't view it as criminal. That is not true of pedophilia.
I am not aware of any Christian group that would publicly legitimize pedophilia. Even among the majority of atheists and agnostics it seems they view this as criminal.
The only group that may disagree may be Islam. It seems child brides are legitimized by some and would not be seen as a crime.
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Well if you're looking for child groomers look no further than the Catholic Church
But just maybe two or three years ago Tennessee trying to remove age restrictions from marriage so had that passed, a Muslim would be able to marry a 5-year-old if he can get the parents permission. The Republicans are totally about family values right?
But just maybe two or three years ago Tennessee trying to remove age restrictions from marriage so had that passed, a Muslim would be able to marry a 5-year-old if he can get the parents permission. The Republicans are totally about family values right?
Muslim Girls Can Marry At The Age Of 16: High Court Upholds Marriage Of Minor
https://www.outlookindia.com/nation...h-court-upholds-marriage-of-minor-news-203452
https://www.outlookindia.com/nation...h-court-upholds-marriage-of-minor-news-203452
With the passage of the 'So Called Marriage Act', Christians will have to make a choice. We need to trust in God's laws and teachings and not the laws of the power brokers/princes of this world.
God and Scripture say that homosexuality is an abomination. Jesus and Scripture say that marriage is only between one man and one woman. The princes of the world insist that God and Scripture is wrong. So, who are you going to trust?
We are all free as to who we'll trust. But you have to choose between God and the politicians, as their viewpoints are diametrically opposed. As for me, I'll put my faith/trust/hope in God's teaching and Scripture.
God and Scripture say that homosexuality is an abomination. Jesus and Scripture say that marriage is only between one man and one woman. The princes of the world insist that God and Scripture is wrong. So, who are you going to trust?
We are all free as to who we'll trust. But you have to choose between God and the politicians, as their viewpoints are diametrically opposed. As for me, I'll put my faith/trust/hope in God's teaching and Scripture.
This may be a cultural thing because different cultures view adulthood differently.
Biblical times people got married around the time of puberty. We see that as children today but to that culture you was now a man or woman.
Some cultures say 13, some say 16, ours says by average 18. While other cultures go lower than that like Islamic regions.
I don't think the Bible says what age. It definitely has grave warnings for harming children. So what is the age of adulthood in a Biblical definition? It seems many examples like Mary and Joseph were quite young.
Biblical times of prearranged marriages to prevent being unequally yoked also.
God designed marriage for reproduction, companionship, and a system of disciplining carnal desires.
The age of puberty was often the case in those times possibly due to life spans being shorter. Or maybe to give woman more time to try and have kids because it is a scientific fact that,
“Women are most fertile and have the best chance of getting pregnant in their 20s.
This is the time when you have the highest number of good quality eggs available and your pregnancy risks are lowest.
At age 25, your odds of conceiving after 3 months of trying are just under 20 percent.
Fertility gradually begins to decline at around age 32. After age 35, that decline speeds up.”
https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/best-age-to-get-pregnant#30s
So by age 30 especially back then, your risk of dying increased and chances of having children greatly diminished.
Biblical times people got married around the time of puberty. We see that as children today but to that culture you was now a man or woman.
Some cultures say 13, some say 16, ours says by average 18. While other cultures go lower than that like Islamic regions.
I don't think the Bible says what age. It definitely has grave warnings for harming children. So what is the age of adulthood in a Biblical definition? It seems many examples like Mary and Joseph were quite young.
Biblical times of prearranged marriages to prevent being unequally yoked also.
God designed marriage for reproduction, companionship, and a system of disciplining carnal desires.
The age of puberty was often the case in those times possibly due to life spans being shorter. Or maybe to give woman more time to try and have kids because it is a scientific fact that,
“Women are most fertile and have the best chance of getting pregnant in their 20s.
This is the time when you have the highest number of good quality eggs available and your pregnancy risks are lowest.
At age 25, your odds of conceiving after 3 months of trying are just under 20 percent.
Fertility gradually begins to decline at around age 32. After age 35, that decline speeds up.”
https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/best-age-to-get-pregnant#30s
So by age 30 especially back then, your risk of dying increased and chances of having children greatly diminished.
There is good study on gay twins that support the idea that homosexuality is not genetic in the sense of being born that way. It did prove that environment has a lot to do with it. Environmental factors can harm us as well like damage to the brain or how some environments damages our genetic code. In relation to the sudden rise in LGBT girls it seems to be more peer pressure than legitimate dysphoria.
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You are engaging in special pleading, a logical fallacy, you are saying marriage is for fertility but you refuse to apply that rule to the infertile showing your position isn't about having children at all.
false. Same sex marriage accounts for about 5% of all marriages but same ex divorce accounts for about 1.6% of all divorces. Ref UCLA school of law
a claim without foundation is...basically useless.
Again special pleading
false. Same sex marriage accounts for about 5% of all marriages but same ex divorce accounts for about 1.6% of all divorces. Ref UCLA school of law
a claim without foundation is...basically useless.
Again special pleading
"The abortion rate for black women is almost five times that for white women."
https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2008/08/abortion-and-women-color-bigger-picture
https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2008/08/abortion-and-women-color-bigger-picture