Senate passes same-sex marriage bill with bipartisan support

[ZNP]

We have not way to verify what we are actually seeing is true and no way of knowing these people are who they say they are.

Really? We can't do autopsies of people who die suddenly? We can't have trials? We can't investigate what is actually in the vaccines? We can't test this out on mice?

I have no idea what you are thinking but I completely and utterly reject your premise.

Anyone in authority needs to be on notice now that if they do not investigate the claims made in "Died Suddenly" they will be held responsible for that.

 

[HeIsHere]

Really? We can't do autopsies of people who die suddenly? We can't have trials? We can't investigate what is actually in the vaccines? We can't test this out on mice?

I have no idea what you are thinking but I completely and utterly reject your premise.

Anyone in authority needs to be on notice now that if they do not investigate the claims made in "Died Suddenly" they will be held responsible for that.

So the film starts with a clip of basketball player (Keytonae Johnson) collapsing on the court. He didn't die and when that happened vaccines were not even available.

Liars are gonna lie and I am sure these grifters made some money but I for one do not have to be brainwashed by propaganda.

 

[ZNP]

So the film starts with a clip of basketball player (Keytonae Johnson) collapsing on the court. He didn't die and when that happened vaccines were not even available.

Liars are gonna lie and I am sure these grifters made some money but I for one do not have to be brainwashed by propaganda.

There are many examples, over a hundred, of athletes collapsing since being vaccinated. There were also many examples of people collapsing from Covid-19. The movie never once mentions Keytonae Johnson or puts forth the claim that he died or that his collapse was from the vaccine.

I don't know why it was in the montage before the movie starts. If they were setting the scene with clips of what was happening or if they wanted to show it because it was Covid related or if they picked that clip by mistake I don't know. I suppose they should respond to this.

But if that is all the "debunkers" have it is the most trivial of trivial points. In my opinion the movie didn't even start until 20 minutes into it.

The movie has physical evidence that embalmers all over the world are finding and it has statistical evidence that is way beyond the requirement of statistical significance.

Also, the debunkers are not going to have any impact on lawsuits or foreign countries waking up. It would be a good idea to be aware of what is about to happen to the US.

 

[Scarecrow]

Here they don't say 0.3% as you allege, they say 3.1% and if the population of homosexual men is 3% of men then that means people are equally likely to be "homosexual" or "heterosexual".

it actually says 0% to 3.1% based on the confidence range. if you do the math from the number so the study you get 0.3%

 

[ZNP]

it actually says 0% to 3.1% based on the confidence range. if you do the math from the number so the study you get 0.3%

That is not how a confidence range works and saying they said something that the study didn't say is deceitful. The size of the study was so small as to require a confidence range.

I have no dog in this fight but when people are intentionally misleading people about this topic I suspect they have a hidden motivation.

Again, I would point out that pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent people. They are neither heterosexual or homosexual.

Rape on the other other hand, like domestic abuse, is not about sexual preference but power and hate. Conflating the two is misleading.

The big concern is about kids being groomed in public school by pedophiles.

 

[Scarecrow]

(and SSM has zero effect on this.)

Gay marriage doesn't produce children and contributes to the decline of society.

neither do infertile heterosexuals. Are you saying people should have fertility tests before being allowed to get married? should anyone who can't biologically reproduce be denied the right to marry?

( so shouldn't you be against obese people getting married?)

Oh, we definitely should be supporting healthier lifestyles. In fact, instead of me paying more in taxes or insurance, LGBT, smokers, gluttens, etc should pay more. Like driving reckless makes the reckless driver pay more insurance.

well you woudl just have to prove that being gay is the equvelant to being morbidly obese. Good luck with that.

( so having two dads must be a great thing)

You forget the other half. The mother. Without the mother a kid can suffer as well.

So the children of a police officer killed in teh line of duty should be removed from the surviving parent because otherwise they would suffer?

 

[Scarecrow]

At the heart of it homosexuality is all about sex and fleshly pleasure.

just like it is for heterosexuality

 

[Scarecrow]

That is not how a confidence range works and saying they said something that the study didn't say is deceitful.

you quoted those numbers...so....

 

[ZNP]

you quoted those numbers...so....

I quoted the study, you misquoted

 

[Cameron143]

Questions: if homosexuality is genetic and homosexuals don't generally reproduce, wouldn't the genetic trait disappear over time as it is not passed on?

 

[ZNP]

Questions: if homosexuality is genetic and homosexuals don't generally reproduce, wouldn't the genetic trait disappear over time as it is not passed on?

This question violates pagan religion on two counts.

1. You are not allowed to question evolution.

and

2. You are not allowed to question whether or not people are born homosexual.

As soon as they implement the social credit score you will be getting demerits for asking this question.

 

[kaylagrl]

just like it is for heterosexuality

I ask again, your info says you are a Christian. I asked for you to share your personal relationship with Christ. I have yet to hear an answer. The Bible states that any sex outside of marriage is a sin. It says that homosexuality is a sin. You don't believe either. I really don't understand why you are here. The churches mission is to reach the lost. How can one know if they are lost if we don't tell them?

 

[kaylagrl]

This question violates pagan religion on two counts.

1. You are not allowed to question evolution.

and

2. You are not allowed to question whether or not people are born homosexual.

As soon as they implement the social credit score you will be getting demerits for asking this question.

Mmm humm eugenics would have bred out homosexuality, no purpose to their cause. They need to reproduce more like themselves. That's why abortion clinics are in the poorest section of every city, those are the people they want bred out of society.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

At the heart of it homosexuality is all about sex and fleshly pleasure.

The same can be said of fornication, though many caught up in that may have hoped for lasting relationships, family and kids but were deceived.

However, marriage and monogamy indicates restraint. It is a responsible dealing with sex. It is obviously not "all about sex and pleasure". People who have that focus do not want to get married and no one wants to marry them.

The exception to the rule of course are the elites who marry for financial reasons, political reasons, and for their public image. This is why they stay married despite the corruption and hypocrisy behind the curtain. Diana's sin in their eyes was pulling that curtain back and refusing to be an actress in their play.

It is a responsible dealing with sex. It is obviously not "all about sex and pleasure".

I agree. Not all but definitely from a Biblical stand point, sex is a gift as well. Statistics show marriage couples are happier and have sex 50% more than single folks.

So in reality, God's way still carries the most restraint, most pleasure, and most happiness. These rising generations need to be taught this truth. God's way isn't just rules to restrict all the fun and pleasure. But they are with restraint because human nature only wants more until they devour themselves and those around them.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

neither do infertile heterosexuals. Are you saying people should have fertility tests before being allowed to get married? should anyone who can't biologically reproduce be denied the right to marry?


well you woudl just have to prove that being gay is the equvelant to being morbidly obese. Good luck with that.


So the children of a police officer killed in teh line of duty should be removed from the surviving parent because otherwise they would suffer?

(neither do infertile heterosexuals. Are you saying people should have fertility tests before being allowed to get married? should anyone who can't biologically reproduce be denied the right to marry?)

Absolutely not. Remember my proven argument is that heterosexual marriages are still best for raising kids. There are still kids who need adoption.

Homosexual divorce rates are extremely high and the children miss one or the other biological parent. Not including psychological factor or confusing the next generation on marriage.

Nice ignoring the sociology of marriages in historical societies.


(well you woudl just have to prove that being gay is the equvelant to being morbidly obese. Good luck with that.)

Easy. Both are unhealthy lifestyles. Thank you for the luck.


(So the children of a police officer killed in teh line of duty should be removed from the surviving parent because otherwise they would suffer?)

Nope. But notice you admit to suffering. The child will suffer for awhile but more than likely the mom will remarry.

 

[kaylagrl]

I agree. Not all but definitely from a Biblical stand point, sex is a gift as well. Statistics show marriage couples are happier and have sex 50% more than single folks.

So in reality, God's way still carries the most restraint, most pleasure, and most happiness. These rising generations need to be taught this truth. God's way isn't just rules to restrict all the fun and pleasure. But they are with restraint because human nature only wants more until they devour themselves and those around them.

Gay men have multiple partners. Certainly not healthy for relationships, not healthy for the person having multiple partners and certainly not good for children in the home. As I keep saying, any sex outside marriage is a sin and will lead to a burden on society. That's why God set the limits on sex that He did. But if we are going to call out homosexuals we need to call out young couples that are living together without being married. My pastor did that and lost some members over it.



https://slate.com/human-interest/20...mous-will-straight-couples-go-monogamish.html

https://www.aidsmap.com/news/dec-20...gay-men-have-committed-relationships-just-one

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetro.html

 

[WillB]

Well yeah but if a church doesn't want to perform a same-sex marriage, they don't have to. That's what the courthouse is for. That's why when you're married at the courthouse they ask you if you want to include God in your wedding vows or not because not everyone in America is Christian.. Pew pols indicate that over 60% of Americans have no problem with same-sex marriage. Imagine a government representing the will of the people. The horror

Technically you're correct. But the problem is that there are certain types e.g. strident militant homosexuals and lesbians who insist and demand that not only are they entitled to get what they want but also everyone else must uncritically accept and approve of them.

As for me, I couldn't care less what consenting adults get up to in the privacy of their own homes....as long as they are adults and are consenting and do it in private.....and don't insist and demand that I share their (perverted) worldview.

Is my view fair and reasonable?

 

[Dude653]

There is no way to have an objective position on what constitutes "well-being" since by its very nature is subjective.

I fear you have been listening to Sam Harris too much and with his recent melt down he definitely is not someone I would give much credence too.

As far as his neuroscience background there are many far more learned and smarter than him.

The irony is that because you want to remove objective morality from the picture, the very society you are advocating for (Brave New World) is far more oppressive than one that is set up according to objective morality.

The problem is that while you affirm people living "their" truth forces others to conform to a lie because their truth does not match reality. You have succumbed to the power of persuasion and make no mistake this is "power" it is just not by force.

@Scarecrow is a perfect example.

Well you probably won't read it but in his book The moral landscape, hair is presents the argument that we can reach an objective standard for morality based on well being
I guess not everyone is going to care about human well-being. That part is subjective but if we can subjectively agree that human well-being is the goal then there should be things we can agree on that are objectively not conducive to that goal like throwing gay people off of rooftops or stoning people to death for blasphemy

 

[Gojira]

How is rape of a kid under 14 not considered a violent crime? The people in California responsible for this are evil.

Newsom signed a law a few years ago lightening the sentences for pedophiles. This is the next step for the pagan Left. First, normalizing the abnormal homosexuality. Now, pedophilia. After that, beastiality. And, those of us who refuse to aid and abet these whacked-out behaviors will be condemned as hate-mongers.

The point? Aside from a demonic derangement on the parts of the people who keep voting these sickos into power? I'm not sure, other than the theory that this is some sort of resuscitation of the ancient Roman bread & circuses. Normalize every deviant vice, and the people will think they're free, or at least be pacified, while the American Fascist Party (you know, the 'defenders of democracy') plant their boots on their necks.

 

[Gojira]

Technically you're correct. But the problem is that there are certain types e.g. strident militant homosexuals and lesbians who insist and demand that not only are they entitled to get what they want but also everyone else must uncritically accept and approve of them.

As for me, I couldn't care less what consenting adults get up to in the privacy of their own homes....as long as they are adults and are consenting and do it in private.....and don't insist and demand that I share their (perverted) worldview.

Is my view fair and reasonable?

Nooo... according to the sicko Left, you're a bigot. Aid, abet, participate, or you're evil, and deserve a mob burning you out of your car or legal action that ruins your business. Gotta love the Left's version of freedom. Kind of sounds like Mussolini's.