Christians response to gay marriage?

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SomeDisciple

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Which they have a constitutional right to do.
Sure, they have the right to deny Jesus.

But that doesn't mean they should try and take advantage of gay people by pretending to care about their rights.
 

Dude653

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No such thing as "secular law" when it comes to the topic at hand.

The rule of law is not like the rules of grammar.

Law can never been blind to moral distinctions nor can it avoid making moral judgments.
You're wrong. The amendment clause to the Constitution says all laws must serve a secular purpose
 
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I see those advocating equal rights to marriage have no response from the words of Jesus claiming marriage means becoming ONE FLESH.

2 WOMEN or MEN cannot [[((EVER))]] become ONE FLESH.

SO according to the Words of GOD in the flesh, same sex could [[((NEVER))]] be ONE FLESH.

And because we know how God views marriage means we do not ever accept the meaning of marriage according to secular law.

Our position is always how GOD views it.

Since GOD views ONE FLESH equals marriage, then gay marriage is an Abomination like same sex intimacy is.
 
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Yes, we are to obey secular law until it disagrees with God.

Secular Law is different from God towards marriage so that means we go by God.

That means, same sex marriage does not exist nor ever will in God's view.
 

Dude653

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Yes, we are to obey secular law until it disagrees with God.

Secular Law is different from God towards marriage so that means we go by God.

That means, same sex marriage does not exist nor ever will in God's view.
Is anyone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to get gay married?
 

Dude653

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Has anyone tried to coerce christians into providing goods and services for gay-weddings? Yes. Are you okay with that?
I don't know but I don't believe they should be coerced because that's freedom of religion just like people have freedom to not follow your religion
 

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Marriage isn't mentioned at all in the Constitution but I bet you would be singing a different tune if they tried to say you can't get married at all.
I would say it falls under the right to the pursuit of happiness.
Also supreme Court decides what is or isn't constitutional
In case no one else has said any of this (probably has been said already however)...
The pursuit of Happiness isn't in the constitution. It's in the Declaration of Independence.

You also made a comment about how a marriage HAS to be dictated/registered by the state, and that isn't exactly accurate. To gain the governmental benefits of marriage (tax benefits, hospital, social security, etc.) then yes a couple must submit to state laws on marriage. These couples can be homosexual or hetero sexual. However, a heterosexual couple can choose to have only a church ceremony, and not file with the state. They will still be married in the eyes of that church and God, they just won't be recognized as married by the state or federal govt.. They can still live as a married couple, give their children and the wife the husband's name if they so choose, and all.
 

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A great majority of Americans favor 'Gay Marriage'. The US Congress, Supreme Court, and the President are leading the charge to 'codify' gay marriage. They want to teach this as morally acceptable, to children in schools.

Unfortunately, this puts Christians in a spot. Jesus clearly stated that 'Marriage' is between a man and a woman." And Scripture denotes that homosexuality is an abomination in God's sight.

So, Christians will have to make their choice, as the ways of the USA and Jesus are directly opposed to one another.

Public attitudes and government morality codes vs Jesus and Scripture, a battle of Principalities!

Personally, I'll stick with what Jesus and Scripture teach.
 

SomeDisciple

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I don't know but I don't believe they should be coerced because that's freedom of religion just like people have freedom to not follow your religion
That's right; but when you look at some states- they are saying christian cake-makers have to close up shop, because cake-makers refusing to make a gay wedding cake is "discrimination"... but the porn industry isn't going to sue a porn star for refusing to do gay porn, are they? Do you not see the spiritual warfare happening?
 
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Personal prejudice? You're delusional.
i doubt you are in any way qualified to make such a diagnosis.

Like I said, if you cared about gay people so much, you'd care about single gay people too, but you obviously don't,
and how do you know that?


because if you did you'd understand what I'm saying.
i understand what you are saying, but what you are saying is still wrong
 
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From Jesus Himself defining what marriage means.

After reading my attachment since I am on my mobile and cannot copy/paste, explain to me how is it possible for same sex people to become ONE FLESH which is God's distinction of marriage?

ALSO NOTICE GOD CREATED THEM MALE AND FEMALE TO BE MARRIED, NOT SAME SEX.
still waiting for any evidence to back up your claims about science.
 
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Is anyone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to get gay married?
No, but they force us to accept that gay marriage is legitimate.

As a follower of God the only laws we are to accept are God's.

So forcing someone who follows God's laws to accept a law that goes directly against God is discrimination and hate towards God.
 
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Gay marriage advocates don't actually care one bit for gay PEOPLE.

Because if you really cared about gay-people you wouldn't make them get married to give them a tax advantage, and you would just let them cover whoever they needed to cover with their insurance instead of making them get married to get someone covered. The gay-marriage agenda is not eve n a pro-gay agenda, it's an ANTI-CHRIST agenda. They are USING gay people to advance an agenda that is contrary to the bible and THAT'S IT. They just want people to think the bible is wrong.
The only reason your parents got married was for the tax benefits?
 
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still waiting for any evidence to back up your claims about science.
Why would Science matter when this attachment shows God only made Men and Women who are designed for one another.

Science doesn't have any say about that because we have this straight from God Himself.
 

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A great majority of Americans favor 'Gay Marriage'. The US Congress, Supreme Court, and the President are leading the charge to 'codify' gay marriage. They want to teach this as morally acceptable, to children in schools.

Unfortunately, this puts Christians in a spot. Jesus clearly stated that 'Marriage' is between a man and a woman." And Scripture denotes that homosexuality is an abomination in God's sight.

So, Christians will have to make their choice, as the ways of the USA and Jesus are directly opposed to one another.

Public attitudes and government morality codes vs Jesus and Scripture, a battle of Principalities!

Personally, I'll stick with what Jesus and Scripture teach.
and a generation ago the same thing was being said about interracial marriage.