Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Have you been under a rock for the last 3 years?
conspiracies are real and to write off anything berceuse of "iZ ah C0n5pIraCy" is genuinely very bad reasoning.
truth can be found in many places that we would at first assume it isn't. God uses "the foolish things of this world to put to shame the wise" if you remember. Just because that something seems out of place with your theology does not mean it is against Gods theology. that is why we MUST test everything according to scripture.
your reasoning in this post is the SAME EXACT reasoning that atheists will give to not listen to anything that Christians have to say. this is bad reasoning.

and don't make a false god and an idol out of the Jews.
by their own admission right before Jesus' crucifixion they declared "Let his blood be upon us and our children." this means everyone that "identifies" as a "Jew" takes on the absolute responsibility for murdering the ONLY righteous man to ever live and until being a Jew is synonymous with faith and trust in Christ Jesus this will continue to be true.

and that "quote" is accurate. A great deal of what we are told is "Science" today is pagan belief, satanic dogma or human lies promoted as fact, NOT science. best examples off the top of my head' Evolution, dark matter, black holes, Coriolis effect, all of these things are manmade lies about reality that are not actually true (or) testable in reality. everything we observe and actually find through testing show these things to either be inaccurate, total perversions of truth, or a made-up thing to explain away more problems for heathen religion that doesn't make sense otherwise.

we need to guard ourselves against claims of science falsely so called and against false doctrines. the only way to do this is with the scripture, NOT modern claims of "Science".

sure, don't take everything you hear at face value and accept it as truth without test, Even when the man or woman in the white lab coat says so. we must test according to scripture, Not what the lab coat says.

I don't write off all conspiracy. Some aren't even hidden very well.
But there are some real nutcases in the world who see plots & satanic schemes in everything they look at.
Even in God's established order. Some conspiracy theories are nothing more than wild, paranoid speculation.
As Christians We should not be easily deceived.



The shape of The Earth and position of the sun & planets is not a conspiracy.

 

[DavidTree]

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/speed-record-circumnavigate-intl-scli/index.html

Please review the travel route in your article.

 

[VARob]

Please review the travel route in your article.

I suggest you do the same.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

conspiracies are real and to write off anything berceuse of "iZ ah C0n5pIraCy" is genuinely very bad reasoning.

Denial of all conspiracy hasn't been my line of reasoning at all.

and don't make a false god and an idol out of the Jews.

I haven't done this at all.
I will call out irrational hatred of Jews if I see it. Especially from within the church. That doesn't equal worship of them.

if you remember. Just because that something seems out of place with your theology does not mean it is against Gods theology. that is why we MUST test everything according to scripture.
your reasoning in this post is the SAME EXACT reasoning that atheists will give to not listen to anything that Christians have to say. this is bad reasoning.

You have no idea what my theology is on any matter. I believe scripture is in harmony with what we see in God's creation.
I am not using atheist's reasoning. God has called us to be wise. I've recognised deceptive information on a random website.
If that offends you, it's not my problem.

 

[DavidTree]

I suggest you do the same.

You mean on a fake globe earth map - got it.

 

[VARob]

You mean on a fake globe earth map - got it.

You want to believe the earth is flat? Go for it. Nobody can stop you.

 

[DavidTree]

I don't write off all conspiracy. Some aren't even hidden very well.
But there are some real nutcases in the world who see plots & satanic schemes in everything they look at.
Even in God's established order. Some conspiracy theories are nothing more than wild, paranoid speculation.
As Christians We should not be easily deceived.



The shape of The Earth and position of the sun & planets is not a conspiracy.

Egypt and Babylon

In case you missed this = God's Word is a handbook on His Truth vs satan's conspiracies.
It starts in chapter 3 of Genesis (Beginnings).

Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’ ”

It covers the entire world = Psalm 2

Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together,
against the LORD
and against His Anointed One

We are warned not to be deceived by the worldwide conspiracies that came from satan thru Egypt and Babylon.

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.

Here is your global science = Daniel ch2 , Revelation 13

You, O king, were watching; and behold, a great image! This great image, whose splendor was excellent, stood before you; and its form was awesome. This image’s head was of fine gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.

Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[tourist]

same thing as to VArob.

You blatently claim Jesus a Liar. you need to deeply consider why Satan is called the Deceiver.[/QUOTE

Just because you disagree with me on whether or not the earth is flat or round does not mean that I am calling Jesus a liar. That is like me saying that you are biblically naive in your interpretation as to the shape of the earth. I don't think Satan gives a crap either way in regard to deception on the actual shape of the earth.

 

[tourist]

That's a false accusation.


That's fine, but lets see if you hold to it.

Member is obviously a shape of the earth denier.

 

[Dino246]

Dino,

The problem is and always has been from man's unbelief in what God has spoken.

The Egyptian/Babylonian heliocentric science is at at odds with Scripture.

i firmly believe that Scripture and Physics do not agree with a SWBE (spinning water ball earth)

On this subject i choose to stand upon His Word = Post 1,068

i also have investigated the undeniable evidence that exposes a fake moon landing that was filmed on earth.

NASA/TV/science fiction do not own my mind but my God always speaks Truth from His Word.

The more everyone seeks to attack in ungodly behavior, denying the Word on this subject, the more i SEE why God has said what HE said and how the world along with many christians believe all that the statue in the Book of Daniel tells them.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was with God in the beginning.
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.

When the Holy Spirit says HE made the sun and moon stand still (they move thru the sky) = i believe HIM.
When the Holy Spirit says the earth does not move = i believe HIM
When the Holy Spirit says the love of Christ surpasses knowledge = i agree to the love of Christ

When the Holy Spirit says be like 'little children' = i let go of the balloon and watch it rise up into the sky and then i go and play in the water that always seeks its own level everywhere on earth 24/7 = always running downhill but never uphill.

Your argument is entirely based on the assumption that your interpretation of Scripture is the correct one. It's not going to convince me. Calling me a denier of Scripture is not going to win you any points. There isn't even a single verse of relevant Scripture with which I disagree; However, I may disagree with your interpretation thereof. Note the distinction!

You don't have a sound understanding of physics, and that doesn't help your position one bit.

I don't care about the moon landing question; it is irrelevant to this topic.

How about dealing with the evidence I have presented. You have avoided it so far.

 

[Dino246]

1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.

Fixed it for you. You are assuming, on the basis of different interpretation of Scripture, that those who disagree with you are "under the sway of the wicked one".

Using your logic, we are completely justified in believing that you are "under the sway of the wicked one".

Here is your global science = Daniel ch2 , Revelation 13

Neither references "global science". Your arguments are growing weaker, which shows you're getting desperate.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Notwithstanding where it came from, it very much happens to be a true statement.

To avoid the red X, I'll just respond by saying I disagree.

"hide God"
A conspiracy to hide God. If that was the plot, it certainly hasn't worked.

Every air pilot & sea captain has lied throughout navigational history? To Hide God?

Take the case of the Apollo 8 astronauts-
3 men who had a limited time to speak to the largest audience ever known until that time-
conspired to hide God by reading the first 10 verses of Genesis about God creating The Earth and making it good.?

Even if the photograph of The Earth was phony, the scripture drew attention to God as the creator.
Think of the size of the audience that day. Does God's word return void?
This isn't a way I would choose if I wanted to hide God or deny his existence.

 

[DavidTree]

Fixed it for you. You are assuming, on the basis of different interpretation of Scripture, that those who disagree with you are "under the sway of the wicked one".

Using your logic, we are completely justified in believing that you are "under the sway of the wicked one".


Neither references "global science". Your arguments are growing weaker, which shows you're getting desperate.

This is how you get yourself into trouble = by falsely accusing.

If you disagree with me = that's ok.
If you disagree with my belief in scripture = that may be ok or it may be a mistake.
This is why God tells us to believe every word that HE has spoken = Matthew 4:4

The Good News is that we can pray to the LORD Jesus Christ and open our hearts to Truth = 24/7 = just like Water

just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,
that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,

Excuse me know it's Bath Time and the water will not spill out because it's on a flat earth.

 

[Dino246]

This is how you get yourself into trouble = by falsely accusing.

If you disagree with me = that's ok.
If you disagree with my belief in scripture = that may be ok or it may be a mistake.
This is why God tells us to believe every word that HE has spoken = Matthew 4:4

The Good News is that we can pray to the LORD Jesus Christ and open our hearts to Truth = 24/7 = just like Water

just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,
that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,

Excuse me know it's Bath Time and the water will not spill out because it's on a flat earth.

Yawn... still no response to the evidence I have presented.

 

[DavidTree]

Yawn... still no response to the evidence I have presented.

Psalm 93:1
The Lord reigns, He is clothed with majesty;
The Lord is clothed,
He has girded Himself with strength.
Surely the world is established, so that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 104:5
You who laid the foundations of the earth,
So that it should not be moved forever,

Isaiah 45:18
For thus says the Lord,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
“I am the Lord, and there is no other.

Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel,
“O sun, stand still at Gibeon,
And O moon in the valley of Aijalon.”
So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,
Until the nation avenged themselves of their enemies.
Is it not written in the book of Jashar?
And the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.

The God of creation declares the earth is not spinning thru space = you can trust His words = HE created the earth, sun, moon and stars.

 

[Dino246]

Psalm 93:1
The Lord reigns, He is clothed with majesty;
The Lord is clothed,
He has girded Himself with strength.
Surely the world is established, so that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 104:5
You who laid the foundations of the earth,
So that it should not be moved forever,

Isaiah 45:18
For thus says the Lord,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
“I am the Lord, and there is no other.

Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel,
“O sun, stand still at Gibeon,
And O moon in the valley of Aijalon.”
So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,
Until the nation avenged themselves of their enemies.
Is it not written in the book of Jashar?
And the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.

The God of creation declares the earth is not spinning thru space = you can trust His words = HE created the earth, sun, moon and stars.

Yawn. Still no response.

 

[DavidTree]

Member is obviously a shape of the earth denier.

Thoughts to ponder on this Beautiful Day in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Wisdom says it is better to be a shape of the earth denier and mocked,
then to deny His words and be greatly dissappointed.

Believing a heliocentric belief that came from Egypt and Babylon thru fallen angels places you in a conundrum.

Which is this = "Did God really say....... that the sun and moon stopped (did not continue on it's God created course in the sky)."

This is not an attack, nor a slander against anyone but a challenge to "test everything to what God has spoken."

Peace and Good Morning

 

[VARob]

Thoughts to ponder on this Beautiful Day in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Wisdom says it is better to be a shape of the earth denier and mocked,
then to deny His words and be greatly dissappointed.

Believing a heliocentric belief that came from Egypt and Babylon thru fallen angels places you in a conundrum.

Which is this = "Did God really say....... that the sun and moon stopped (did not continue on it's God created course in the sky)."

This is not an attack, nor a slander against anyone but a challenge to "test everything to what God has spoken."

Peace and Good Morning

Remember... You said you hoped you were wrong.

 

[Ted01]

Just for the recorded...
I do believe that photographs of the spherical Earth are flat.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Just for the recorded...
I do believe that photographs of the spherical Earth are flat.

When I tapped on the three posible responses In the poll,I didn't see your name under the option saying the world Is flat.