Christians Are Not Sinners
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God does not accept sinners. You have a new identity in Christ if you have accepted Him
That is a red herring. No one here has said we earn salvation. We are given righteousness in Christ when we accept Him. We have absolutely no righteousness of our own
those with a faulty understanding of who we are in Christ might perceive it to be so. Like looking through a dirty window
Are you able to acknowledge the scriptures I posted that tell us who we are now in Christ?
That is a red herring. No one here has said we earn salvation. We are given righteousness in Christ when we accept Him. We have absolutely no righteousness of our own
those with a faulty understanding of who we are in Christ might perceive it to be so. Like looking through a dirty window
Are you able to acknowledge the scriptures I posted that tell us who we are now in Christ?
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Paul knew he WAS a sinner, and no, your "fact" is not a fact.
Everyone that bakes is not a Baker. A sinner does not battle and strive against sin like the Christian does. A sinner does not have a repentant spirit. We are made new creatures in Christ when we become born again.
I know that this may sound like a play on words, but the insinuations and implications matter.
Everyone that bakes is not a Baker. A sinner does not battle and strive against sin like the Christian does. A sinner does not have a repentant spirit. We are made new creatures in Christ when we become born again.
I know that this may sound like a play on words, but the insinuations and implications matter.
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Yes, we all do. None of us are claiming perfection, but we identify as being in Christ and under the Blood. That is what Romans 7 is all about. We sin yet we are overcomers through the blood of Jesus.
Romans 7:25 Context
22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
That cannot be said of the sinner.
Romans 7:25 Context
22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
That cannot be said of the sinner.
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Those that God gave to Jesus to redeem them from their sins (John 6:9) will never sin a sin that will keep them out of heaven, because their sins are forgiven, however, after they have been born again, they still carry the baggage of their sinful nature, and will at times commit sins, which will, temporary, separate them from God's fellowship until they repent.
Re the play on words, please see my previous post. Instead of seeing this as Christian vs sinner, see it as saved vs unsaved. All of us sin. That makes all of us sinners.
I think that the more a Christian matures, the more he'll realize how much he still does sin. A lot of the "big ones" he may have stopped, but those little sins keep cropping up, and sin is sin.
I think that the more a Christian matures, the more he'll realize how much he still does sin. A lot of the "big ones" he may have stopped, but those little sins keep cropping up, and sin is sin.
