Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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GaryA

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I totally accept that is what you believe. what do you think of the tooth fairy and santa?
Oh - I think they are just two of the several things that people choose/like to believe in - which also include the Easter Bunny and the Ball Earth...

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GaryA

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The Bible DOES portray the earth as flat, supported on pillars, with a firmament covering it that the stars, sun, and moon are in or on. Why does it do that? Because it's what the ancients thought. They had no telescopes, airplanes, or spaceships. They didn't know what a light-year was. They had no concept of outer space. To them, the earth was flat.
Or, the Bible is telling us the truth about our world.

Do you believe that ALL of scripture was inspired?

Why would the Holy Spirit of God "inspire" anyone to write something that was not the truth?

To believe the earth is flat today is simply willfull ignorance.
Or, it is simply believing what the scriptures tell us...
 
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Oh - I think they are just two of the several things that people choose/like to believe in - which also include the Easter Bunny and the Ball Earth...

:giggle:
i believe the are from the same author
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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On a Globe Earth, one airplane traveling East and the other traveling West will meet head on (when on the same route)
Which is exactly what happens. They would have to move out of each other's flight path to avoid collision.
The same is true on the surface of The Earth. Totally impossible on a flat earth model.

However, in a straight line, traveling in direct opposite directions leads to infinity.
Travelling east or west in a straight line on the proposed FE model will crash you into the ice wall.
 

Gideon300

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As I said, 90% of these people are deceived, like 90% of those involved with the moon landing hoax. There are quite a few pilots, sailors, military etc. who, from their experience, now believe the Earth to be flat.

The early explorers in Antarctica reported it to take a long time to circumnavigate (because it's on the edge and large, not the bottom and small), and never reported the 24 daylight that the Arctic is famous for in Summer.

Why else would there be an international treaty to prevent people exploring Antarctica? Perhaps because when people did, they would easily be able to refute the beliefs of the globalists.
There is no treaty preventing people from exploring Antarctica. Australia (which FE asserts does not exist) has a substantial base there. So does the US. The treaty is against mining and drilling for oil. Antarctica has been well explored for at least 2 centuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroic_Age_of_Antarctic_Exploration
 

Moses_Young

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There is no treaty preventing people from exploring Antarctica. Australia (which FE asserts does not exist) has a substantial base there.
Straw man. Flat Earth theory does not require the denial of Australia's existence. However, a valid question for the point - why would one invent a psyop for a topic like Flat Earth, if there wasn't truth in it?

So does the US. The treaty is against mining and drilling for oil. Antarctica has been well explored for at least 2 centuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroic_Age_of_Antarctic_Exploration
Jarle Andh0y - modern day explorer denied permission to explore Antarctica.

http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2012/01/jarle-andhoy/

When he finally started to do it anyway, his ship mysteriously sunk and he's been tied up in legal disputes since. Not what I'd call freedom to explore.
 

Moses_Young

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Travelling east or west in a straight line on the proposed FE model will crash you into the ice wall.
Think of a disc (world). North is the hub, South is the rim. East and West are widdershins and turnwise. Whether traveling widdershins or turnwise, you will never leave the disc (just keep travelling in circles). You keep going North, you will stay in the center. South is the only way to the edge.
 

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The early explorers in Antarctica reported it to take a long time to circumnavigate (because it's on the edge and large, not the bottom and small), and never reported the 24 daylight that the Arctic is famous for in Summer.
How about modern explorers with documentation such as pictures, videos and written journals?

Antartica is surrounded by the Antarctic ocean also known as the Southern Ocean. There is no ice wall.

There are many bases there supported by several countries staffed with citizens from many countries. Also, commercial cruises frequent the continent. Any tourist can book passage.

It is an established fact that there is 24-hour daylight in the Summer months and 24-hour darkness in Winter months.
 

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Maybe I don't understand it but if you fly east, you keep going east, and if you fly west you keep going west, but if you fly north towards the north pole, then eventually you will be going south. If it is a flat earth how could you keep going east and not run out of earth. Psalm 103:12 "as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us. " The idea that east and west can never meet works on a sphere, it does not work on a flat earth or has God only removed our transgressions the distance it takes to get from the western side of the flat earth to eastern side?
You provided an excellent bible passage in support of a round earth.
 

Moses_Young

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How about modern explorers with documentation such as pictures, videos and written journals?
Very suspect, as these are not independent - similar to NASA and government space agency photographs of the Earth. As outlined earlier, free agents are not permitted to explore Antarctica now. The early independent (or at least more honest) explorers documented things which are inconsistent with modern claims. Such as 24 hour daylight in Summer. Unreported by early explorers, which is odd, if it truly exists.

Antartica is surrounded by the Antarctic ocean also known as the Southern Ocean. There is no ice wall.
So this isn't real?

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There are many bases there supported by several countries staffed with citizens from many countries.
Run by the military. Oh, sorry, government "scientific branches". I don't trust the government to tell the truth, anymore than I trust the military, the CDC, NASA etc. These are the same sort of people, employed to tell the same sort of lies.

Also, commercial cruises frequent the continent. Any tourist can book passage.
No they can't. Only to predesignated locations. This is not how exploration works.

It is an established fact that there is 24-hour daylight in the Summer months and 24-hour darkness in Winter months.
Don't you find it strange there's only one controversial/contested video of this, whereas for the North, there are thousands upon thousands? I do.
 

Dino246

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Think of a disc (world). North is the hub, South is the rim. East and West are widdershins and turnwise. Whether traveling widdershins or turnwise, you will never leave the disc (just keep travelling in circles). You keep going North, you will stay in the center. South is the only way to the edge.
Again, your model has been refuted by photographic evidence.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Think of a disc (world). North is the hub, South is the rim. East and West are widdershins and turnwise. Whether traveling widdershins or turnwise, you will never leave the disc (just keep travelling in circles). You keep going North, you will stay in the center. South is the only way to the edge.
I'm not as stupid as you seem to think I am. Stop playing games.
Anyone can travel in circles, even in a small space. That doesn't equal going east or west in a straight line.



Finding a point on a disc and going around it like a needle on a record isn't a straight journey. It's constantly turning.

This is a straight line across a disc.

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GaryA

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I'm not as stupid as you seem to think I am.
No - I wouldn't use the word 'stupid'; albeit, the word 'pride' could possibly be in-the-mix somewhere... :unsure:

You are not listening.

You are not "lending yourself to learning" so that you may understand it better.

Whether or not you choose to believe that any of it is true is a different matter altogether.

He is not playing games; rather, he is trying to help you understand how it works in the Flat Earth model.

Stop trying to understand Flat Earth from a Ball Earth point of view.

The Flat Earth model is not based on the Ball Earth model. It is a totally separate model.

The Flat Earth model does not depend on the Ball Earth model. It stands on its own.

Stop trying to understand Flat Earth from a Ball Earth point of view.

To understand it properly, you must look at it from a Flat Earth point-of-view.

Anyone can travel in circles, even in a small space. That doesn't equal going east or west in a straight line.
Neither is it [straight] in the Ball Earth model - unless you disregard the curvature under the line.

(a truly 'straight line' = "end up in outer space" - right?)

Of course, it is okay to do this on a map - in which case, we would be talking about a geographic straight line.

In the image below, the 'X' at the center would be the 'North Pole'. Every point on the circle is 'South' from/of there.

In the Flat Earth model, East-West at a particular location is in reality a tangent point of a circle.

The distance from that location to the 'North Pole' is the radius of the circle.