The offer of Salvation is universal, but the application is only : "by Faith".

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
F

ForestGreenCook

Well-known member
#341
Jul 8, 2018
8,441
1,213
113
#341
Dino246 said:
Anything else you want to add to Scripture, or take from it, while you're on a roll? (cf. Rev. 22:18-19).
Click to expand...
I am paraphrasing the scripture. If you want read it for yourself, go ahead, Eph 6:37.
 
J

John146

Senior Member
#342
Jan 13, 2016
17,097
3,683
113
#342
ForestGreenCook said:
God allows mankind ro choose how he wants to live his life here on earth, but their eternal inheritance is made by God's sovereign grace, and not man's choice, and Yes, all of God's born again children do commit sins, and because he loves them he chastens them.

The inspired scriptures are instructions written to his adopted children as to how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here on earth, and gives them the freedom to choose how they want to live. If they are his adopted children that Christ paid the adoption price for on the cross, they will all inherit heaven regardless whether they choose to commit sin or not
Click to expand...
That's not what you stated. You stated that the will of God will always be accomplished. God created hell and was never intended that man end up there. If man ends up in hell, he's going to a place that was never meant for him.
 
B

Bluesproverb

Banned
#343
Jun 28, 2022
1,258
383
83
#343
ForestGreenCook said:
What does this have to do with our discussion?
Click to expand...
I'd say not a thing.

It's merely pettiness trying to discredit your Exegesis.


Cannot receive or know spiritual things takes away the possibility of believing spiritual things.
Click to expand...
Those not meant for God's grace to receive his free gift of faith and Salvation cannot understand the words of God. To them it is foolishness. As God intends.

Jesus taught in parables so that not all would understand and come to repentance.

We witness worldly minds trying to rationalize the scriptures. And when they can't they resort to language of the world. Insults,mockery, and the like. Which just goes to prove the scriptures truth even more. They don't understand the things of the spirit.

Many are called to read the Bible and believe what they understand it to say.

Few are chosen by The Word to be saved and know the message beyond the words on a page.

It amazes me, the length that some people will go in their misinterpretation of the scriptures, to take away the glory and power of God in giving eternal life by his sovereign grace, and giving man the power and glory for saving himself eternally.
Click to expand...
Isn't that the living example of what God said about natural man?
 
B

Bluesproverb

Banned
#344
Jun 28, 2022
1,258
383
83
#344
Dino246 said:
Anything else you want to add to Scripture, or take from it, while you're on a roll? (cf. Rev. 22:18-19).
Click to expand...
You make the same mistake others have.

John was writing the book of God's revelations. It was to that book that his warning applied.
We know this because while in exile on Patmos John the Revelator was writing God's book of Revelations to the world.
Not the new testament.
 
Dino246

Dino246

Senior Member
#345
Jun 30, 2015
25,366
13,728
113
#345
ForestGreenCook said:
What does this have to do with our discussion?


Cannot receive or know spiritual things takes away the possibility of believing spiritual things.

It amazes me, the length that some people will go in their misinterpretation of the scriptures, to take away the glory and power of God in giving eternal life by his sovereign grace, and giving man the power and glory for saving himself eternally.
Click to expand...
Since you insist on misrepresenting what I write, your comments are irrelevant.
 
Dino246

Dino246

Senior Member
#346
Jun 30, 2015
25,366
13,728
113
#346
Bluesproverb said:
You make the same mistake others have.

John was writing the book of God's revelations. It was to that book that his warning applied.
We know this because while in exile on Patmos John the Revelator was writing God's book of Revelations to the world.
Not the new testament.
Click to expand...
Revelation, singular. ;)
 
Dino246

Dino246

Senior Member
#349
Jun 30, 2015
25,366
13,728
113
#349
Bluesproverb said:
Incorrect.

John the revelator received God's revelations while on the isle of Patmos.
Click to expand...
Revelation 1:1 “The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,” (‬NIV‬‬)

Revelation, singular. The text itself says so.
 
F

ForestGreenCook

Well-known member
#351
Jul 8, 2018
8,441
1,213
113
#351
Dino246 said:
Why should I take a break from standing for Scripture?
Click to expand...
No you should not take a break from studying the scriptures, but you sure need to take a break from hekling people, which accomplishes nothing in discussing the scriptures.
 
B

Bluesproverb

Banned
#352
Jun 28, 2022
1,258
383
83
#352
ForestGreenCook said:
No you should not take a break from studying the scriptures, but you sure need to take a break from hekling people, which accomplishes nothing in discussing the scriptures.
Click to expand...
John the revelator received the revelations of the ascended Christ. There are three categories in those 22 chapters. Which is why 22 chapters contain revelations,apokalypsis, the unveiling, of God's future plans for the world.
The revelations Jesus shared with John proves God ,as he has said throughout his word, predestined the future.
Revelation is a forewarning.

John did not put a title to his final work. Maybe he figured it would all speak for itself as Christ would lead future readers to understand in time.

It has been given different titles over the years.

The Apocalypse of John

The Revelation of Saint John the Divine
 
S

savedbysovereigngrace99

Member
#353
Oct 10, 2022
121
20
18
#353
lbt

FAITH, is what God requires of you, to give you His "Gift of Grace" that is "the Gift of Salvation" ...which is given to redeem you from your sin, and give you eternal life.
Click to expand...
I believe this is not accurate, I believe Faith is part of the application process when God saves an individual. In other words, Faith accompanies Salvation by Grace. Eph 2:8 Its not an requirement, but a benefit given with Salvation.
 
I

Inquisitor

Well-known member
#356
Mar 17, 2022
2,859
845
113
#356
Runningman said:
Prior to having faith in the gospel, people don’t have any fruits of the Holy Spirit. The kind of faith Galatians 5:22 is talking about is great faith because it’s a spiritual gift. Initial faith isn’t gifted to anyone.

spiritual gifts:
1 Corinthians 12:8,9
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit
Click to expand...
I agree with you on this point.

Not all have the gift of healing, not all have the gift of wisdom. So not all have that special faith, great faith.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.