Hell's Population Clock

[Magenta]

The context is clear sister, just like Matthew 25:46 that at the general Ressurrection all get the same imprasiable body.

Where do you see the saved raised in honor?

The context is clear in that Paul is speaking to brothers and sisters, and of their resurrection.

I declare to you, brothers and sisters...

There is no verse saying the wicked put on immortality, and plenty attesting
to the fact that those with faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ DO.

Sorry, meant to say: raised in glory. Your way says the wicked are raised in glory. Which, quite frankly, makes zero sense.

 

[Webers.Home]

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In Jesus' case, mortality/immortality pertained only to his body rather than
to both his body and himself. Were that not so, then Jesus would've ceased
to exist when he expired on the cross, and in order to restore his corpse to
life; it would've been first necessary to restore the man himself to life.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that human life is entirely physical which, for
them, isn't exactly true. They hold to something called "life force" which is a
supernatural power that can be taken from a spirit being's body, transferred
to a human's body, and then transferred back again to the spirit being's
body when the human's body expires.

The JW life force suggests an interesting possibility. Supposing when folks
are terminated in the lake of fire per Rev 20:11-15, their life force survives
to be transferred to a spirit body; enabling them to be perfectly suited to
join the Devil and his angels per Matt 25:41, thus keeping the damned in
existence for as long as God deems necessary to accomplish retribution for
their works per Rev 20:12.
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[Level72]

Revelation 1:8
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, saith the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

1. Revelation 21:6
   And he said to me: It is done. I am Alpha and Omega; the beginning and the end. To him that thirsteth, I will give of the fountain of the water of life, freely.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Revelation 22:13
   I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

So you want to quote Revelation do you. Lets examine the very first words of Revelation.
Revelation 1:1 " The revelation of Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass................."
WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM, him being Jesus. His God and our God gave unto him. Cant you acknowledge that Jesus has a God? Which means Jesus is NOT the most high God.
Jesus is the son of the Most High God.
You wont have enough oil in your lamp thinking Jesus is God absolute because that just is not true.
Looking at your other posts I conclude your not a ignorant person, you just know many things that just are not true! You silly goose.
Lachiem

 

[Magenta]

Isaiah 9:6

 

[Level72]

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In Jesus' case, mortality/immortality pertained only to his body rather than
to both his body and himself. Were that not so, then Jesus would've ceased
to exist when he expired on the cross, and in order to restore his corpse to
life; it would've been first necessary to restore the man himself to life.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that human life is entirely physical which, for
them, isn't exactly true. They hold to something called "life force" which is a
supernatural power that can be taken from a spirit being's body, transferred
to a human's body, and then transferred back again to the spirit being's
body when the human's body expires.

The JW life force suggests an interesting possibility. Supposing when folks
are terminated in the lake of fire per Rev 20:11-15, their life force survives
to be transferred to a spirit body; enabling them to be perfectly suited to
join the Devil and his angels per Matt 25:41, thus keeping the damned in
existence for as long as God deems necessary to accomplish retribution for
their works per Rev 20:12.
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Jesus did cease to exist once he died on the stake. Here is where your lack there of shows. Jesus didnt die on a cross. He died on a "storos" which in Greek is a stake. Romans didnt add the crossbar until many years after Jesus was crusified. Why does that matter? Because the cross is a symbol of deception, hence your attempt to deceive, with the understanding you were deceived with. Its not your fault. You just obviously have not been exposed to those who preach the truth. Thus you will not obtain enough oil in your lamp to to make it all the way, and when you turn around to go purchase oil the bridegroom will have come and gone. Your arrogance and unwillingness to except the truth serves you wrong. Dont worry, you still have the second resurrection to be retrained along with most of the Adamic creation and the fallen ones who will be resurrected as human at the same age Adam was created at the age of 20 yrs old. Think about that, in a thousand years, sleeping of course, you get to be 20 yrs old again and get a opportunity to accept the truth. I recommend hanging on to the truth, because the sting of the second death is you die as a human at the age of 120 yrs old, return to the dust and never be thought of again. That is if you dont repent. But, you will, along with the rest of Adamic creation that didnt make first resurrection, the aborted babies get s chance also, however the aborted babies will never have a childhood, however they get a opportunity to be baptized and receive God's holy spirit along with Satan and the demons. They repent also afterall, Satan is the pridigal son. Nobody burns in eternal torture. The concept of devil, beast, and concept of false prophet will burn eternally as they will be hated and never thought of again, but the individuals attached to those concept will be offered mercy and will repent. Our Most High God and Jesus's Most God who is one and the same. There is only ONE MOST HIGH GOD and it should be clear its NOT Jesus. Hope this helps.
Lachiem

 

[Level72]

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In Jesus' case, mortality/immortality pertained only to his body rather than
to both his body and himself. Were that not so, then Jesus would've ceased
to exist when he expired on the cross, and in order to restore his corpse to
life; it would've been first necessary to restore the man himself to life.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that human life is entirely physical which, for
them, isn't exactly true. They hold to something called "life force" which is a
supernatural power that can be taken from a spirit being's body, transferred
to a human's body, and then transferred back again to the spirit being's
body when the human's body expires.

The JW life force suggests an interesting possibility. Supposing when folks
are terminated in the lake of fire per Rev 20:11-15, their life force survives
to be transferred to a spirit body; enabling them to be perfectly suited to
join the Devil and his angels per Matt 25:41, thus keeping the damned in
existence for as long as God deems necessary to accomplish retribution for
their works per Rev 20:12.
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Thankfully you will never be in the position to judge another individuals destiny.

 

[Level72]

What a ugly thing to display.
I explain something to help you along your path and you mock me like im a fool. Like a desperate attempt to elevate yourself at the expense of another.
Bad character you put on display.

 

[Level72]

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In Jesus' case, mortality/immortality pertained only to his body rather than
to both his body and himself. Were that not so, then Jesus would've ceased
to exist when he expired on the cross, and in order to restore his corpse to
life; it would've been first necessary to restore the man himself to life.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that human life is entirely physical which, for
them, isn't exactly true. They hold to something called "life force" which is a
supernatural power that can be taken from a spirit being's body, transferred
to a human's body, and then transferred back again to the spirit being's
body when the human's body expires.

The JW life force suggests an interesting possibility. Supposing when folks
are terminated in the lake of fire per Rev 20:11-15, their life force survives
to be transferred to a spirit body; enabling them to be perfectly suited to
join the Devil and his angels per Matt 25:41, thus keeping the damned in
existence for as long as God deems necessary to accomplish retribution for
their works per Rev 20:12.
_

If your referring to me as JW. You couldn't be more wrong, which so far is the theme to most of your words. You are of great error and from what it seems, you are a new ager, with your buddist/ hindu, Alice Bailey believing heresy posing as a Christian. Hey man.....age of Aquarius dude......lets kill our flesh and catch a ride on the comet to the milkey way to our cosmic paradise. Anything goes..... Angels are god man......as long as it feels good....it must be.
What a joke!!!!

 

[Level72]

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Folks react to misfortune in a sort of four-step process. The first is
usually disbelief, followed by anger, then despair, and finally adjustment.

In the movie, Shawshank Redemption, a man is given two life sentences for
a murder he didn't commit. At first he feels very strongly that the truth will
come out that he's innocent and doesn't belong in prison: he expects to
eventually be exonerated and set free.

Well, one of the old-timers cautioned him about that with the advice: "Hope
is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane. It's no use on the inside.
You'd better get used to that idea."

I'd imagine that most new arrivals in Hell go thru the four-step process and
at first hope against hope that it isn't permanent. It probably takes quite a
while for them to get used to the idea that it is what it is, i.e. they're never
getting out.

Were Hell a normal penal colony like San Quentin or Riker's Island; then I
think most folks would eventually settle down and accept it as a way of life.
But the element of fire makes adjustment very difficult. If only there was at
least some water to help folks beat the heat, that would be very helpful.

Pop Clock Update: 2,846 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 166,721,526
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
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Such error of thought and what it appears to be a big waste of time you spend with all your nonsense calculations. Over one big fat untruth. But hey, you go man, calculate away in your arena of nonsense. Your a legend there!

 

[Webers.Home]

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Jesus did cease to exist once he died

It's commonly accepted in the sphere of Christianity that upon his death,
Jesus parted company with his body and went to the self same location
wherein Abraham and Lazarus were residing. (Luke 23:43)

And then there's this:

• Matt 12:40 . . For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of
a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the
heart of the earth.

When you think about it, Jesus' crucified dead body never was in the heart
of the Earth, it was laid to rest up on the surface; and not even in the
ground like a normal grave-- his remains were entombed in a hollowed out
rock. (Matt 27:60)

So, in order for Jesus to be up on the surface of the Earth, and down in the
heart at the same time; an element of his existence had to part company
with his body and go its separate way. I believe there is sufficient evidence
to allege that the element was his soul. (Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:25-31)
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[Funkus]

Jesus did not truly die as in cease to exist "for to God all are alive"
His body died but He didn't. He flew away from there
He did give his earthly life for us of course but his eternal life he gives to us so we can know him. That's what never died on the cross
I think the most important thing about the cross is that Jesus is absolutely sinless on it, perfectly without sin
No thought of any of the sin he is taking on can change that, he remains completely innocent
There's some bad teaching that can't tell that apart and tries to say God punishes Jesus, he does not, that is totally false. in my opinion

 

[Mem]

I don't see anyone ceasing to exist until thrown into the lake of fire, the second death, which is separate from the grave, the first death. Anyway, Jesus' very name is "I am," YHVH from which the word for "to be" is derived, He Is Existence.

 

[TheLearner]

Right. Dead is dead. The unsaved dead are raised and judged, then pass into the second death. You have them living ever after.

The lake of fire text does not say they are turned into Ashes. No Ashes proves they will exist in the lake.

Matthew 25:46 is plain. If you limit eternal for punishment, then you put the same limits on eternal life. The Greek Grammar does not allow otherwise.

 

[TheLearner]

The context is clear in that Paul is speaking to brothers and sisters, and of their resurrection.

I declare to you, brothers and sisters...

There is no verse saying the wicked put on immortality, and plenty attesting
to the fact that those with faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ DO.

Sorry, meant to say: raised in glory. Your way says the wicked are raised in glory. Which, quite frankly, makes zero sense.

No context I cor 15 is clear that all bodies are raised with the same type of Spiritual Body. The headlines are added by uninspired men. Did you read the Isaiah 14 text I posted? It is about a human going into the grave and people greet him.

 

[TheLearner]

The context is clear in that Paul is speaking to brothers and sisters, and of their resurrection.

I declare to you, brothers and sisters...

There is no verse saying the wicked put on immortality, and plenty attesting
to the fact that those with faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ DO.

Sorry, meant to say: raised in glory. Your way says the wicked are raised in glory. Which, quite frankly, makes zero sense.

No he is addressing a specific audiance, not limiting all the resurrected to different kind of bodies.

 

[TheLearner]

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In Jesus' case, mortality/immortality pertained only to his body rather than
to both his body and himself. Were that not so, then Jesus would've ceased
to exist when he expired on the cross, and in order to restore his corpse to
life; it would've been first necessary to restore the man himself to life.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that human life is entirely physical which, for
them, isn't exactly true. They hold to something called "life force" which is a
supernatural power that can be taken from a spirit being's body, transferred
to a human's body, and then transferred back again to the spirit being's
body when the human's body expires.

The JW life force suggests an interesting possibility. Supposing when folks
are terminated in the lake of fire per Rev 20:11-15, their life force survives
to be transferred to a spirit body; enabling them to be perfectly suited to
join the Devil and his angels per Matt 25:41, thus keeping the damned in
existence for as long as God deems necessary to accomplish retribution for
their works per Rev 20:12.
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It is clear from James 2:26 that the spirit of people exists beyond the dead body. In fact, Jesus went to preach to the dead. One can not preach to shomeone who is in a comma.


Isaiah 14:4-11

Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition



4 Thou shalt take up this parable against the king of Babylon, and shalt say: How is the oppressor come to nothing, the tribute hath ceased?
5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, the rod of the rulers,
6 That struck the people in wrath with an incurable wound, that brought nations under in fury, that persecuted in a cruel manner.
7 The whole earth is quiet and still, it is glad and hath rejoiced.
8 The fir trees also have rejoiced over thee, and the cedars of Libanus, saying: Since thou hast slept, there hath none come up to cut us down.
9 Hell below was in an uproar to meet thee at thy coming, it stirred up the giants for thee. All the princes of the earth are risen up from their thrones, all the princes of nations.
10 All shall answer, and say to thee: Thou also art wounded as well as we, thou art become like unto us.
11 Thy pride is brought down to hell, thy carcass is fallen down: under thee shall the moth be strewed, and worms shall be thy covering.

 

[TheLearner]

So you want to quote Revelation do you. Lets examine the very first words of Revelation.
Revelation 1:1 " The revelation of Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass................."
WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM, him being Jesus. His God and our God gave unto him. Cant you acknowledge that Jesus has a God? Which means Jesus is NOT the most high God.
Jesus is the son of the Most High God.
You wont have enough oil in your lamp thinking Jesus is God absolute because that just is not true.
Looking at your other posts I conclude your not a ignorant person, you just know many things that just are not true! You silly goose.
Lachiem

Even my drive can answer that. Jesus is the one to come at the Second Coming, not the Father.

 

[TheLearner]

What a ugly thing to display.
I explain something to help you along your path and you mock me like im a fool. Like a desperate attempt to elevate yourself at the expense of another.
Bad character you put on display.

I clearly said, it was to bring some humor to the discussion. Sorry friend you were offended. It was not directed towards anyone. In fact, I often feel like the sea shell.

 

[TheLearner]

to all good night and god bless

 

[Magenta]

No context I cor 15 is clear that all bodies are raised with the same type of Spiritual Body. The headlines are added by uninspired men.

Headlines? That was Paul speaking, not somebody adding anything to the text like you are doing