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First of all, what does " being saved" mean?Who are the unsaved?
What about the individual who never had access to the bible?
What about aborted babies?
Are you "saved"?
This is where I humbly listen and learn. I truly dont know if I can give a complete answer to that question "being saved". I mean I think I know, but im not 100% sure.
What about the individual who never had access to the bible?
What about aborted babies?
Are you "saved"?
This is where I humbly listen and learn. I truly dont know if I can give a complete answer to that question "being saved". I mean I think I know, but im not 100% sure.
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Folks react to misfortune in a sort of four-step process. The first is
usually disbelief, followed by anger, then despair, and finally adjustment.
In the movie, Shawshank Redemption, a man is given two life sentences for
a murder he didn't commit. At first he feels very strongly that the truth will
come out that he's innocent and doesn't belong in prison: he expects to
eventually be exonerated and set free.
Well, one of the old-timers cautioned him about that with the advice: "Hope
is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane. It's no use on the inside.
You'd better get used to that idea."
I'd imagine that most new arrivals in Hell go thru the four-step process and
at first hope against hope that it isn't permanent. It probably takes quite a
while for them to get used to the idea that it is what it is, i.e. they're never
getting out.
Were Hell a normal penal colony like San Quentin or Riker's Island; then I
think most folks would eventually settle down and accept it as a way of life.
But the element of fire makes adjustment very difficult. If only there was at
least some water to help folks beat the heat, that would be very helpful.
Pop Clock Update: 2,846 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 166,721,526
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
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Folks react to misfortune in a sort of four-step process. The first is
usually disbelief, followed by anger, then despair, and finally adjustment.
In the movie, Shawshank Redemption, a man is given two life sentences for
a murder he didn't commit. At first he feels very strongly that the truth will
come out that he's innocent and doesn't belong in prison: he expects to
eventually be exonerated and set free.
Well, one of the old-timers cautioned him about that with the advice: "Hope
is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane. It's no use on the inside.
You'd better get used to that idea."
I'd imagine that most new arrivals in Hell go thru the four-step process and
at first hope against hope that it isn't permanent. It probably takes quite a
while for them to get used to the idea that it is what it is, i.e. they're never
getting out.
Were Hell a normal penal colony like San Quentin or Riker's Island; then I
think most folks would eventually settle down and accept it as a way of life.
But the element of fire makes adjustment very difficult. If only there was at
least some water to help folks beat the heat, that would be very helpful.
Pop Clock Update: 2,846 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 166,721,526
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
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Of what is happening from the context, "on the face of the earth".
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
Of what is happening from the context, "on the face of the earth".
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
James 2:26
Of what is happening from the context, "on the face of the earth".
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
Of what is happening from the context, "on the face of the earth".
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
No such thing is taught in Scripture.
Of what is happening from the context, "on the face of the earth".
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
John 17:2
John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You
have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.
Of what is happening from the context, "on the face of the earth".
A Song About the King of Babylon
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
John 17:2
John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You
have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.
I Cor 15
35 But someone may ask, “How are the dead raised? What kind of body will they have?” 36 These are stupid questions. When you plant something, it must die in the ground before it can live and grow
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42 It will be the same when those who have died are raised to life. The body that is “planted” in the grave will ruin and decay, but it will be raised to a life that cannot be destroyed. 43 When the body is “planted,” it is without honor. But when it is raised, it will be great and glorious. When the body is “planted,” it is weak. But when it is raised, it will be full of power. 44 The body that is “planted” is a physical body. When it is raised, it will be a spiritual body.
There is a physical body. So there is also a spiritual body.
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53 This body that ruins must clothe itself with something that will never ruin. And this body that dies must clothe itself with something that will never die. 54 So this body that ruins will clothe itself with that which never ruins. And this body that dies will clothe itself with that which never dies.
Paul speaks of the body of all, not just US.
35 But someone may ask, “How are the dead raised? What kind of body will they have?” 36 These are stupid questions. When you plant something, it must die in the ground before it can live and grow
...
42 It will be the same when those who have died are raised to life. The body that is “planted” in the grave will ruin and decay, but it will be raised to a life that cannot be destroyed. 43 When the body is “planted,” it is without honor. But when it is raised, it will be great and glorious. When the body is “planted,” it is weak. But when it is raised, it will be full of power. 44 The body that is “planted” is a physical body. When it is raised, it will be a spiritual body.
There is a physical body. So there is also a spiritual body.
...
53 This body that ruins must clothe itself with something that will never ruin. And this body that dies must clothe itself with something that will never die. 54 So this body that ruins will clothe itself with that which never ruins. And this body that dies will clothe itself with that which never dies.
Paul speaks of the body of all, not just US.
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So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in
dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
The wicked are not raised in honor. Paul is speaking only of those who
by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ are SAVED.
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man
was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those
who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven.
The wicked are not of heaven!
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
Those without the Holy Spirit of God are perishable. They do not, have not, and cannot, put on immortality.
From 1 Corinthians 15:50-54
dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
The wicked are not raised in honor. Paul is speaking only of those who
by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ are SAVED.
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man
was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those
who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven.
The wicked are not of heaven!
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
Those without the Holy Spirit of God are perishable. They do not, have not, and cannot, put on immortality.
From 1 Corinthians 15:50-54
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Absolutely, Jesus is NOT the most high. Jesus has a God. You cant be the most high and have a eGod. Jesus is subordinate to his God and Father.
Yes, I deny Jesus as being the most high God. Jesus is subordinate to the Most high God. Jesus has a God and Father which is our God and Father. John20:17. You cant be the most high God if you have a God. You elevating Jesus to God most high breaks the first commandment. Not to mention, no one has seen God or heard His voice AT ANY TIME! John1:18 " no man has seen God at anytime....
1John12:4
Your salvation depends on getting this simple truth fixed in your noggin.
John 17:3 for this is life eternal, that they may know thee, the ONLY true God, and Jesus whom though has sent.
Dont take me wrong. Just trying to help.
Lachiem
1John12:4
Your salvation depends on getting this simple truth fixed in your noggin.
John 17:3 for this is life eternal, that they may know thee, the ONLY true God, and Jesus whom though has sent.
Dont take me wrong. Just trying to help.
Lachiem
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So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in
dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
The wicked are not raised in honor. Paul is speaking only of those who
by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ are SAVED.
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man
was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those
who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven.
The wicked are not of heaven!
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
Those without the Holy Spirit of God are perishable. They do not, have not, and cannot, put on immortality.
From 1 Corinthians 15:50-54
dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
The wicked are not raised in honor. Paul is speaking only of those who
by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ are SAVED.
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man
was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those
who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven.
The wicked are not of heaven!
I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
Those without the Holy Spirit of God are perishable. They do not, have not, and cannot, put on immortality.
From 1 Corinthians 15:50-54
Where do you see the saved raised in honor?
Revelation 1:8
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, saith the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, saith the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.
- Revelation 21:6
And he said to me: It is done. I am Alpha and Omega; the beginning and the end. To him that thirsteth, I will give of the fountain of the water of life, freely.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Revelation 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations