Anti-vaxxers are people too?

[Moses_Young]

It is important to state "Unvaccinated with bogus vaccines".

GENUINE VACCINES
There are genuine vaccines and bogus vaccines. So let's review the reality of natural immunity and induced immunity. God has created a masterpiece of an immune system in each human being. As long as that person takes care of himself/herself, this system works perfectly. This means proper nutrition, rest, exercise, and hygiene. So when a microbial invader attacks the body, the God-given immune system goes on the defensive immediately, and protects the body by creating antibodies against the antigens. What vaccination does is what one might call a "pre-emptive strike". A genuine virus is "attenuated" (rendered harmless) and injected into the body. This brings about the creation of antibodies (which remain in the body) and basically immunizes that person against showing symptoms of the infection.

I'm an anti-vaxxer. I don't believe there ever has been a genuine vaccine, which has left patients healthier than those who didn't get it. The covid-vaccine (although a bogus vaccine) does, in my view, give a good, fast-tracked view of what every vaccine has been doing - causing those who receive it to die, or become sicker, than those who didn't.

When you look at the studies, one will note they are very selective about who they choose to include, and focus on. Why? Are they so selective when they choose and include those who will receive the vaccines? If it were so, then that would be fine. But the problem is, they're not. They select a very small sample group for one particular set of ailments, then when they finally get the result they want, give the vaccine to all and sundry. They should have to publish the results of all studies, not just the successful ones. Doctors who have analysed the overall effects of vaccines (something that should have been done before vaccines were even mainstream) have found unvaccinated are significantly healthier.

If vaccines did not come with liability waivers for vaccine manufacturers, I doubt we would be plagued with them today.

 

[PennEd]

Literally every vaccine ever has had a few casualties. It's just an unfortunate side effect. In an alternate universe where peanut butter cure salvage, there would still be a few people who would die from eating the peanut butter

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The callousness of this statement is pretty jaw dropping.

 

[PennEd]

I know from germany that 149 000 people died because of Covid. And around 2.255 died after an vaccineinjection. = 0.02% per 1000 shots. ( But in this cases is not clear it was because of the vaccine or any else reason)
This are also facts. And even if the number would be 10 times higher. More died because of the virus. And the same with the deseases. Multi time more people suffer because of the virus then the vaccine.
But it seens me you are only looking what supports your view insteadt to compare.
As I said: believe what you want. But I dont spread desinformation.

Trying to wrap my head around the inanity of this post.

Even IF more people died from the virus than from the vaccine, (they didn't), the vaccine neither prevents someone getting the virus, nor spreading it!

And it's been proven that those now dying from the disease are mostly vaccinated.

Your theory ONLY works IF the vaccine works!

All those that died from the vaccine died for NO REASON. they'd be alive today if they hadn't.

 

[Moses_Young]

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The callousness of this statement is pretty jaw dropping.

It's true, though. I like the honesty. This is exactly the reason why medicines are and should always be voluntary.

 

[wolfwint]

Of course. To deceive people into believing that a BOGUS VACCINE is an actual vaccine. Just like he has deceived you and many others over the last three years.

Former HHS Advisor Compares Covid mRNA Jabs to Bioweapons – Must See Interview
https://www.infowars.com/posts/former-hhs-advisor-compares-covid-mrna-jabs-to-bioweapons/

This is exactly what I have said in post #77. And you have marked it with a red X to try and deceive and mislead people. Shame on you.

Well, the mRNA vaccine is an real vaccine, based on a new technical way to produce it. Its known since over 30 years. And since 10 years it is used for create vaccine against cancer.
Since Corona, the Investments made it possible to produce this technic for create vaccine against Covid.

You trust "infowars," which are known for Support conspiracy theorys and spreading Desinformation.
You are free to do that, but you cant claim that these Informations are showing the truth.

 

[wolfwint]

Trying to wrap my head around the inanity of this post.

Even IF more people died from the virus than from the vaccine, (they didn't), the vaccine neither prevents someone getting the virus, nor spreading it!

And it's been proven that those now dying from the disease are mostly vaccinated.

Your theory ONLY works IF the vaccine works!

All those that died from the vaccine died for NO REASON. they'd be alive today if they hadn't.

And how many would have died without the vaccine? Maby you should research this.

 

[ZNP]

Trying to wrap my head around the inanity of this post.

Even IF more people died from the virus than from the vaccine, (they didn't), the vaccine neither prevents someone getting the virus, nor spreading it!

And it's been proven that those now dying from the disease are mostly vaccinated.

Your theory ONLY works IF the vaccine works!

All those that died from the vaccine died for NO REASON. they'd be alive today if they hadn't.

Great selling point, this won't protect you, won't help you in any way, but it will kill less people than anthrax.

 

[persistent]

61,000 Millennials Aged 25 to 44 Died in 2021 After COVID Vaccine Mandates – 84% Increase in Mortality Rate
https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/6...ccine-mandates-84-increase-in-mortality-rate/

The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television.

 

[ZNP]

And how many would have died without the vaccine? Maby you should research this.

They did, it is in the study you supposedly read that I shared. 18 to 98 serious adverse reactions to the vaccine for each person that might have been hospitalized had they not got the vaccine.

 

[persistent]

How reliable is this news source?The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television.

 

[PennEd]

And how many would have died without the vaccine? Maby you should research this.

NONE that we know of. The vaccine doesn't work! So how the heck could have receiving it saved anyone's life?

 

[ZNP]

How reliable is this news source?The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television.

What is your definition of "Far right"? They are a legitimate news agency that does real journalism, not the propaganda mouthpiece of the CIA like the MSM.

 

[Moses_Young]

NONE that we know of. The vaccine doesn't work! So how the heck could have receiving it saved anyone's life?

I admit the covid-vaxx does have the potential to prolong life for high-risk jobs. Say for example, you're an elite cyclist. There's a chance - a low chance, but a chance - that during practice, you'll be killed in a road accident. Come along the covid-vaxx, and you get a myocarditis diagnosis. You'll be dead in 5 years, and can't cycle anymore. It is possible, if you had been able to continue your cycling career, that you would have died in less than 5 years.

Thanks Pfizer! ;-)

 

[Moses_Young]

What is your definition of "Far right"? They are a legitimate news agency that does real journalism, not the propaganda mouthpiece of the CIA like the MSM.

I thought Communist China shill as soon as I saw that post. If there's anything anyone knows about Falun Gong, it's that they stand up to the great, red terrorists known as China. Why else even mention them in association with a news outlet, unless the poster is some Commie troll?

 

[persistent]

What is your definition of "Far right"? They are a legitimate news agency that does real journalism, not the propaganda mouthpiece of the CIA like the MSM.

The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television. Wikipedia
First issue date: 2000
Owner(s): Epoch Media Group
Founder(s): John Tang
Headquarters: 229 W. 28th St. New York, NY 10001; U.S
Language: Multiple, mainly Chinese and English

 

[shittim]

NONE that we know of. The vaccine doesn't work! So how the heck could have receiving it saved anyone's life?

Posts like that are why I don't believe wolfy to be a medical professional.

 

[ZNP]

The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television. Wikipedia
First issue date: 2000
Owner(s): Epoch Media Group
Founder(s): John Tang
Headquarters: 229 W. 28th St. New York, NY 10001; U.S
Language: Multiple, mainly Chinese and English

In journalism every outlet is owned by someone and there is always an angle for why they would want to own a journalism outlet.

My Dad was forced to leave the United Press International because he refused to let the CIA run by Bush sell a newspaper in Florida which was a front for the CIA to UPI.

He went to the NY Times. He resigned from the NY Times when he objected to their publishing CIA articles concerning the assassination of JFK.

The NY Times where my dad used to be an executive has been caught repeatedly lying intentionally and for the purpose of manipulating public opinion. My dad left the company because "he objected to the business practices" (translation: didn't like being a mouthpiece for the CIA). As bad as the NY Times is WAPO and CNN are worse. MSNBC is now the most transparent mouthpiece for the CIA.

It is crystal clear that the really big, wealthy nations all have their own mouthpiece, US, CCP, UK, OPEC, etc.

This is why the most reliably accurate news comes from smaller outlets like Project Veritas, Epoch Times, or some operation that is not directly involved like the WION news out of India.

As much as people love Alex Jones I won't have anything to do with him because he is unstable.

Steve Bannon and War Room pandemic right now is the single best news source. He has an impressive record of being right and breaking stories, he is measured and careful, the deep State hates him and wants to destroy him, and he will find great news sources and bring them to your attention.

Now they label him as far right, and his agenda is extremely transparent. At this present time it is impossible to ride the fence you are either on one side or the other.

 

[persistent]

Wiki and all info sources have errors and news sources possibly still carry insurance which limit their liability for what is known as Errors and Omissions. Supposedly and possibly true is that even tabloids are difficult to indict in any way since the way the wording is done it is misleading but yet accurate. Paradox? Go Figure. Is every product you purchase exactly what you expected or do you sometime find that you were somewhat misled. Go Figure.

 

[ZNP]

Wiki and all info sources have errors and news sources possibly still carry insurance which limit their liability for what is known as Errors and Omissions. Supposedly and possibly true is that even tabloids are difficult to indict in any way since the way the wording is done it is misleading but yet accurate. Paradox? Go Figure. Is every product you purchase exactly what you expected or do you sometime find that you were somewhat misled. Go Figure.

Anyone who still trusts the NY Times is an idiot

I'm not talking about "errors" with the NY Times. They ran a series of articles with a "deep throat" in the Trump administration who was portrayed by the NY Times as a high ranking official in the Trump administration. This person was insinuated to be someone of great importance, hence the anonymous slander of Trump. We thought it was the Secretary of State, or the Chief of Staff or some really key person. In fact it was some guy across town in a cubicle who was a grunndoon office staff. This was not an "innocent error" but a willful misleading of the public and a very clear violation of all journalistic ethics for the purpose of pushing their own agenda and narrative. Anyone who still trusts the NY times is an idiot.

The same is true of how they treated the Hunter Biden laptop story, not just NYT, but also WAPO, CNN and the rest. Now they want to claim that it was a confusing time. BS, we have known how to deal with viral infections for decades, there was nothing "confusing" that warranted their behavior. For example the way they ridiculed the use of HCQ was criminal and no doubt led to many needless deaths. Anyone who still trusts WAPO, CNN or MSNBC is an idiot. Same is true of Twitter and Facebook.

Fauci got 20 scientists who were beholden to him to lie about the origin of the Wuhan virus. Anyone who still trusts Fauci is an idiot.

 

[persistent]

I really don't much care about the way any of the World Players do their thing. God is ultimately in control The only paper I read is online out of Lancaster, Pa.. I was trying to figure out who are "real" Christians. I was almost sure it was the Amish. Although this vaccine thing of which I don't have shot 1, has got me a little interested in what gives with Wuhan and CDC. Now I see on this chat some people say it isn't CDC but SEEDY SEA.