My comment was not meant to be insulting. I do know Hagin wrote this in one of his books (or it was transcribed into a book for his ministry.) The idea that prophecy has to be confirmation is also popular in the A/G and some other groups. But I can't find it in the Bible. It seems to be a reactionary teaching.
That's a straw man. If God tells you, "Never go to China" and someone else prophesies that you are to go to China... that's a different scenario. If you had never thought about going to China, and someone prophesies that you will one day do evangelism in China... the fact that you hadn't heard anything about it before doesn't prove the prophecy to be false.
When I was in college, a man who had been out of school a few years came to our Bible study. He'd been selling insurance, but he'd find himself sharing the gospel or praying with people during his sales calls. Years before, he'd gone to a meeting where a well-known Pentecostal pastor and evangelist had pointed him out and gave him a word that God had a call on his life, and about his ministry call. He'd been thinking abou that. He was a child, and from what I gather, I don't think he'd heard God say that about him.
What setting is irresponsible? Do you mean outside of church? I'm just guessing that is what you meant. I didn't mention a setting. 'Personal prophecies' happen in church meeting also, and they can happen outside of one-on-one altar call ministry as well. But even outside of church, the Bible does not forbid it. We read about probably one-on-one encounters with prophets. I was reading with my kids about Jeroboam and Adonijah the Shilonite yesterday. Did Agabus prophesy over Paul in a church meeting? Philip and his daughters might have been there. Was that 'in church.' It might be safer to get words in the assembly where others can judge, but that does not put a limitation on God.
Plenty of people who have been used in the prophetic for years give words one-on-one.
That doesn't make the prophets in the Bible wrong for prophesying over people who had no clue about what they were talking about before they got the prophecy, or for prophesying outside of church (or whatever your beef was in that previous paragraph.
I have known people who quote Hagin almost like his works are the Bible, young overzealous Rhema grads back in the day, and other fans. But I don't of anything someone could cite for the idea that it has to be confirmation besides Hagin. I can't find it in the Bible. Even if by confirmation one means 'it has to bear witness with my spirit'-- the validity of a prophecy is not dependent on the ability of the one hearing it to perceive it's genuineness.
If you prophesied over someone and they actually gave you some feedback, and said, "That one thing you prophesied about me that you said I would do, I had never thought of that before" would that make your prophecy false?
I'm not against elders being in on the judging. it says 'let the other judge.'
That is a convenient dodge. Where is it 'it must confirm what is known' in the Bible? I'm a Bible teacher, myself, and I've done various types of ministry. I've also read the Bible for decades, did detailed word studies on prophecy, prophets, Ephesians 4:11 ministries, studied intently to learn how prophecy works according to scripture. I've never seen any scripture that says the prophecy has to be known by the listener for it to be true. I already mentioned some cases where it is extremely unlikely the listeners knew it.
I challenge you to support doctrinal point 5 from scripture. As for the rest, I agree with that, but I don't think point 2 means it has to be milk toast-- how I've heard some (not saying you) interpret it, since the book of Revelation is prophesy, and edifying, but not emotional-cotton-candy reading. Also, do you think the readers of the book of Revelation... for the first time... knew everything in it before the book of __prophecy__ was written?
. Many far more gifted than you or I see very well.
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