Trump 24

[JTB]

Really now.

Many years ago my wife and I went for cognitive testing. Multiple tests over several days including an IQ test.

I tested out at the 85% level. Meaning only 15% of people assimilate information better than I do.

So until you show me YOUR cognitive level, via actual testing, I would suggest you quit assuming things you don't know and lissen up.

But I'll give you another out. At the time we were doing Luminosity. And the scores we received there were eerily close to the scores we received in actual testing. That might be a cheaper and easier way to show you you need to stop assuming and lissen up.

Don't be deceived brother. We were warned about it.

 

[iamsoandso]

But I'll give you another out. At the time we were doing Luminosity. And the scores we received there were eerily close to the scores we received in actual testing. That might be a cheaper and easier way to show you you need to stop assuming and lissen up.

Don't be deceived brother. We were warned about it.

lol, your arguing with the wind, instead it's best to hear it from the horses mouth and then break it down. First he's not talking about voters who would vote against him(but his own voters) . Then he say's their "so smart"(pat's them on the head) and then says he could "shoot someone on fifth avenue and not loose any voters"... lol his own opinion of the ethics and intelligence of his own voters is whats really relieving,proven over and over by their actions...

 

[Magenta]

lol, your arguing with the wind, instead it's best to hear it from the horses mouth and then break it down. First he's not talking about voters who would vote against him(but his own voters) . Then he say's their "so smart"(pat's them on the head) and then says he could "shoot someone on fifth avenue and not loose any voters"... lol his own opinion of the ethics and intelligence of his own voters is whats really relieving,proven over and over by their actions...

Trump is explaining what the polls say about him/his voters...

 

[Handyman62]

The only one I have to 'splain to is God.

And I'm doing what He has laid on my heart to do.

Did God lay it on your heart to call your fellow believers a pile of crap?

I don't recall that being ANY fruit of the Spirit.

YOU are deceived my friend.

You having to "splain" to God is one thing we agree on.

 

[Handyman62]

Really now.

Many years ago my wife and I went for cognitive testing. Multiple tests over several days including an IQ test.

I tested out at the 85% level. Meaning only 15% of people assimilate information better than I do.

So until you show me YOUR cognitive level, via actual testing, I would suggest you quit assuming things you don't know and lissen up.

How you score on a cognitive or IQ test is not the true measure of intelligence in many cases, and boasting about yours doesn't impress me. Common sense is where the true measure of intelligence is and I don't see that in what you write.

 

[Handyman62]

But I'll give you another out. At the time we were doing Luminosity. And the scores we received there were eerily close to the scores we received in actual testing. That might be a cheaper and easier way to show you you need to stop assuming and lissen up.

Don't be deceived brother. We were warned about it.

Continuing to accuse people of being deceived is your biggest mistake. You really need to pull the log out of your eye and take a serious look at what's going on in your own heart. Jesus can help you with that.

Anyway I'm moving on from this convo and will be joining the others who have lost interest in it.

 

[iamsoandso]

Trump is explaining what the polls say about him/his voters...

yep, this is during the republican primaries to determine who would be the republican candidate in the 2016 presidential election(so it's not about democratic voters) it's about who was weak or strong within the republican party and why.

 

[JTB]

Continuing to accuse people of being deceived is your biggest mistake. You really need to pull the log out of your eye and take a serious look at what's going on in your own heart. Jesus can help you with that.

Anyway I'm moving on from this convo and will be joining the others who have lost interest in it.

What's going on in my heart?

Concern for my brothers and sisters.

Respect for scripture.

Love for my enemies.

You and Polar?

Name calling.

Anger and hatred.

Denying scripture.

Yes it's time to move on. You're not going to accept or consider anything that doesn't conform to your ungodly manner. Further discussion is pointless.

 

[Polar]

Okay, that's enough to put you on ignore. If you can't be rational why are you here?

See how you are? You twist what the Bible plainly states and then get angry when someone calls you on it

I think you know what you are doing and you are not fooling anyone and especially not God

 

[Polar]

Really now.

Many years ago my wife and I went for cognitive testing. Multiple tests over several days including an IQ test.

I tested out at the 85% level. Meaning only 15% of people assimilate information better than I do.

So until you show me YOUR cognitive level, via actual testing, I would suggest you quit assuming things you don't know and lissen up.

Well we don't really know that. You seem to be very good at making things up.

 

[Polar]

Yes it's time to move on.

tootles

 

[Blade]

Makeya a little wager here ... lord trump will be hit with things that would politically kill anyone else, and he will arise from the ashes to take the win in 24 riding a "Christian" wave.

One of his first acts will be to broker a deal that allows the Israelis to rebuild their temple. "Christians" around the world will cheer.

Then in 3 1/5 years when it's finished, he'll move in.

Dollars to drachmas, there's no other way this can play out.

Another post I should really say nothing. Anyone according to the word that believes Jesus/Yeshua came in the flesh died on the cross for the worlds sin was buried rose from the dead 3days later and is the only way to the Father are saved.. are of God. So if ones does not like this agree with it.. take it up with the great I am. Hello Trump believes this. You never saw it heard it.. so what?

Pffft the Antchrist does not go around saying JESUS is the way the truth and the life. He will never point to Christ for he will say he is god. Obama never said that Trump never said it. This post here JTB said it. JTB said LORD TRUMP. God never did. God never told anyone Trump was lord. Trump never said he was lord. Yet your talking about deceiving. Is this not deceiving? If he never said it and he believes in Christ.. whos side are you on then? No offense.

What you are talking about again was about ISRAEL today we see her just as that verse said. Again what you talk keep talking about was not written about the USA or the REP party or DEM party. It was about Israel and the world. What you do here if we been around they said this and more for they had proof OBAMA was the Antichrist. So many things wrong here.

See the good first. How can the light see darkness first

 

[tobewholeagain]

Makeya a little wager here ... lord trump will be hit with things that would politically kill anyone else.,.,.,.,..,

It is called jail time

One of his first acts will be to broker a deal that allows the Israelis to rebuild their temple.

Idle worshiping is a dead end deal

"Christians" around the world will cheer

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When God's prophecy is fulfilled
God’s words are written in the Holy Bible and the following is what He said-----

Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

& so; it is being done in your lifetime;

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

https://tinyurl.com/y6ryw6hf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

Going, going, going--- gone
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[SomeDisciple]

My dude....

First of all, that prophecy is about the Ammonites... You know what; I'm just going to pray.

 

[JTB]

My dude....

First of all, that prophecy is about the Ammonites... You know what; I'm just going to pray.

No, please, I would like to hear why you believe that.

No joke. please explain I'll listen

 

[tobewholeagain]

My dude....
First of all, that prophecy is about the Ammonites... You know what; I'm just going to pray.

Ezekiel
Chapter 21
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel,
3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.
22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and to build a fort.
23 And it shall be unto them as a false divination in their sight, to them that have sworn oaths: but he will call to remembrance the iniquity, that they may be taken.
24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:
29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.
30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.
31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.
32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.
(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..The above occurred in 1947ad
(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.​

King James Bible

Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
bue,bue,birdie

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[tobewholeagain]

correction------
bye, bye, bye birdie pie

 

[JTB]

Ezekiel
Chapter 21
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel,
3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.
22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and to build a fort.
23 And it shall be unto them as a false divination in their sight, to them that have sworn oaths: but he will call to remembrance the iniquity, that they may be taken.
24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:
29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.
30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.
31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.
32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.
(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..The above occurred in 1947ad
(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.​

King James Bible

Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
bue,bue,birdie

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Thank you. I appreciate that response. And I can see how that could have application.

Tell me, do you believe the word of God is eternal? I assume you do. Being eternal, does one manifestation of it render it moot?

Is it possible that even if/though these verses fulfill Jesus' and Paul's warnings, could there be other application?

I tend to think the word of God, being eternal, has part to play in history repeating itself.

Consider:

God offered the Jews a Messiah. The Jews rejected Him, and they suffered tribulation for it in 70 AD. Then God offered the world a Christ. The world is rejecting Him ... and will suffer it's tribulation in the days to come?

The Jews believed their Messiah would be a political figure who'd save them from Godless Romans. Today many Christians are looking for a political figure who'll save them from Godless liberals.

So the words of Ezekiel were a warning to the Jews about them turning away from God's truth. Could the words of Jesus and Paul also refer to Christians today turning away as well?

So yes, while the words of Ezekiel spoke to their turning away, did God's warnings turn moot at that time, or could they still be in play?

 

[JTB]

correction------
bye, bye, bye birdie pie

That's an unloving closure.

Jesus said among His warnings that because people turn from His truth, the love of many will grow cold.

Are you not demonstrating that Jesus' words are still valid right there?

 

[tobewholeagain]

So yes, while the words of Ezekiel spoke to their turning away, did God's warnings turn moot at that time, or could they still be in play?

Thou shalt not kill (LXX; οὐ φονεύσεις), You shall not murder (Hebrew לֹאתִּרְצָח lo tirṣaḥ) or You shall not kill (KJV), is a moral imperative included as one of the Ten Commandments in the Torah,[1] specifically Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17

They were chosen to show us the way, to show
us how to treat the stranger,
how to be compassionate
and loving to your neighbor
and by doing so
peace would envelop the world
by their example​

The one gift above all other gifts is the gift of choice. God gave them a choice and then waited to see if his chosen ones would follow Him in His footsteps as He had commanded. Sadly, they have not changed; sad, sad indeed.

The Israelis have one more chance to get God’s forgiveness

Repent
Ask The Lord for forgiveness
Honor Thy Father & Thy Mother
Love the stranger as you would love Thyself
And the Lord will forgive you​

Israeli’s response ---
https://tinyurl.com/mrxpph6k