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I am sick of the evil speaking and slander that is being hurled around the internet. JTB still needs to back up this claim, because if this is not true it is evil, slander, that is trying to divide people.
“Jesus is not on the ballot. Yet trump and his cronies insist that He is on the ballot under trumps name.” Post #51 on the thread Trump 24.
I have asked for the name of the person who has done this and a citation for at least one crony and for Trump. I asked in both post #54 and #56 on that same thread. The only citation JTB has given is Mike Lindell who is a friend of Trump but the citation did not make any claim that Trump is Jesus incarnated, instead the quote had Mike saying that he felt that Trump was chosen by God and that his election was miraculous and an answer to the prayers of the believers. All of that can be strongly supported by the way in which Trump was elected, his moving the embassy to Jerusalem on the year of the Jubilee, and his appointment of 3 pro life judges resulting in Roe V. Wade being overturned, especially when you consider RBG dying one month before the election. Samson chose the jawbone of an ass to defeat the Midianites, doesn't mean the jawbone of an ass is Jesus incarnate or some cult leader.
If JTB's claim is true I want to see it. This would support his other wild tin foil hat claims of Trump being the Antichrist and of Trump being a cult leader. If it is false it is ungodly slander that JTB accuses others of engaging in.
“Jesus is not on the ballot. Yet trump and his cronies insist that He is on the ballot under trumps name.” Post #51 on the thread Trump 24.
I have asked for the name of the person who has done this and a citation for at least one crony and for Trump. I asked in both post #54 and #56 on that same thread. The only citation JTB has given is Mike Lindell who is a friend of Trump but the citation did not make any claim that Trump is Jesus incarnated, instead the quote had Mike saying that he felt that Trump was chosen by God and that his election was miraculous and an answer to the prayers of the believers. All of that can be strongly supported by the way in which Trump was elected, his moving the embassy to Jerusalem on the year of the Jubilee, and his appointment of 3 pro life judges resulting in Roe V. Wade being overturned, especially when you consider RBG dying one month before the election. Samson chose the jawbone of an ass to defeat the Midianites, doesn't mean the jawbone of an ass is Jesus incarnate or some cult leader.
If JTB's claim is true I want to see it. This would support his other wild tin foil hat claims of Trump being the Antichrist and of Trump being a cult leader. If it is false it is ungodly slander that JTB accuses others of engaging in.
oh hello
are you a duplicate account for the person I asked the question of?
probably just trying to control the dialogue then, right?
are you a duplicate account for the person I asked the question of?
probably just trying to control the dialogue then, right?
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No, the evidence you gave did not in any way stand up to scrutiny.
Yes, Adam Kinzinger said something along those lines, but he is not a friend of Trump or a member of his administration. He is not a crony.
Yes, there was a book that said this. But again, it wasn't written by Trump or his cronies. All you have done is proven that there are evil slanderers out there that are speaking evil. You said Trump said this. You provided no evidence whatsoever for Trump. You said his cronies said this, the only crony you provided was Mike Lindell, who said that he felt in his spirit that Trump was an answer to prayer. He said this prior to Trump being elected, but that is not what you said and it has been proven that at least two very big prayers from Christians were answered as a result of Trump being elected.
Yes, Adam Kinzinger said something along those lines, but he is not a friend of Trump or a member of his administration. He is not a crony.
Yes, there was a book that said this. But again, it wasn't written by Trump or his cronies. All you have done is proven that there are evil slanderers out there that are speaking evil. You said Trump said this. You provided no evidence whatsoever for Trump. You said his cronies said this, the only crony you provided was Mike Lindell, who said that he felt in his spirit that Trump was an answer to prayer. He said this prior to Trump being elected, but that is not what you said and it has been proven that at least two very big prayers from Christians were answered as a result of Trump being elected.
Please list the good things Hitler did.
Did you know he actually instituted anti-animal cruelty laws? Apparently he loved animals. Well I love animals but I would not try to annihilate an entire race of people and millions of others in death camps
oh oh oh! and he also introduced no smoking in public places laws. Gee what a guy. He hated Jews, loved animals and did not want any second hand smoke to come his way.
I really have no idea why he is so vilified. You just can't please some people
your turn. how else should we praise the little man with the angel of death sitting on his shoulder?
Did you know he actually instituted anti-animal cruelty laws? Apparently he loved animals. Well I love animals but I would not try to annihilate an entire race of people and millions of others in death camps
oh oh oh! and he also introduced no smoking in public places laws. Gee what a guy. He hated Jews, loved animals and did not want any second hand smoke to come his way.
I really have no idea why he is so vilified. You just can't please some people
your turn. how else should we praise the little man with the angel of death sitting on his shoulder?
I used to sit here for hours, spending 30 minutes writing a concise evidence backed case for people who wouldn't spend 30 seconds considering it. I found I was wasting incredible amounts of time.
You and Z are in that club.
If someone here truly wants evidence to consider I'll spend the time to oblige them. You and Z, nah, I got better things to do.
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Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Let us suppose that Donald Trump is a born again believer. Perhaps he just recently received the Lord. I don't know. But accusing someone of being a cult leader and claiming that they are Jesus incarnate is a very serious and heinous thing to say if you are making it up. I am disgusted with the cavalier attitude with which JTB has hurled these kind of insults and there is no supporting evidence. None.
He has provided quotes from Donald Trump that show he is a jack ass. That is not the same thing. Just because you don't like what someone says, perhaps for some strange reason you are angry at Trump, it doesn't give you the right to slander him with evil speakings. This is serious. This is something that must be dealt with. And just putting me on ignore because you don't want to deal with it, fine, you will have to answer at the judgement seat for this.
Let us suppose that Donald Trump is a born again believer. Perhaps he just recently received the Lord. I don't know. But accusing someone of being a cult leader and claiming that they are Jesus incarnate is a very serious and heinous thing to say if you are making it up. I am disgusted with the cavalier attitude with which JTB has hurled these kind of insults and there is no supporting evidence. None.
He has provided quotes from Donald Trump that show he is a jack ass. That is not the same thing. Just because you don't like what someone says, perhaps for some strange reason you are angry at Trump, it doesn't give you the right to slander him with evil speakings. This is serious. This is something that must be dealt with. And just putting me on ignore because you don't want to deal with it, fine, you will have to answer at the judgement seat for this.
Before I hit the ignore button polar, let me just summarize.
Scripture REPEATEDLY says false prophets will arise and lead God's people away from Him (and I HAVE posted those many times). Jesus says that in that time many will turn away from Him. If you want to think that's all in the past, you are free to do so. I personally think there's a second round coming up, and so I am concerned about those to whom it applies. I don't want to see any brothers or sisters deceived into walking away.
You apparently have no such concerns.
So ignore me, as I am going to ignore you.
Personally, I hope you're right. But I HIGHLY doubt it.
Scripture REPEATEDLY says false prophets will arise and lead God's people away from Him (and I HAVE posted those many times). Jesus says that in that time many will turn away from Him. If you want to think that's all in the past, you are free to do so. I personally think there's a second round coming up, and so I am concerned about those to whom it applies. I don't want to see any brothers or sisters deceived into walking away.
You apparently have no such concerns.
So ignore me, as I am going to ignore you.
Personally, I hope you're right. But I HIGHLY doubt it.
But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
I recently watched a message on Youtube from a preacher who had "88 reasons why we don't know the date or time". He began his message with references from 9 different chapters in the Bible showing that the rapture is Biblical. It was a great introduction that had me really looking forward to the "88 reasons". However, it fizzled after that. The 88 reasons for why we don't know the date and time became one reason inferred from illustration of the rapture as the bridegroom coming for his bride. His point was "it is supposed to be a surprise". That was the most sexist teaching I ever heard.
The bride is "supposed" to be beholding and reflecting the groom. If the two were dancing the groom is leading but the bride is not supposed to be tripping all over his feet, she is supposed to seamlessly follow his lead so the two move as one. I had an experience once, I was at this big training in the Bible, Christians from the entire country were there. Each of us was going to be tested by the trainer, it was "supposed to be" a surprise. There was this very pretty sister that I liked (the daughter of an elder) and after a meeting I was standing in a group waiting on something. I was looking at her from across the room. She knew I was watching her, she made sure I had a very clear view of her, yet her head was buried in her Bible diligently studying it. From that I was able to discern that I was going to be tested that night. So I studied and sure enough I was tested that night. It has always been my experience that women are much more in the know about what is going on. They may pretend to be surprised when the bridegroom comes but that is just so they don't hurt his feelings.
Luke 12:39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into.
Understand what? Is he supposed to know? If I was in the home security business I think I would be tuned in to when thieves come, what they are looking for, and when there is a thief in the neighborhood. This simply says the owner doesn't know what hour he is coming. No doubt he has put locks on the doors and taken other precautions to protect the house. So it should not be a surprise.
John 16:4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them. I did not tell you this from the beginning because I was with you,
This is what the Lord is saying, we have been warned about what to look out for.
John 12:42 Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not openly acknowledge their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue;
It was shocking to people that the Democrats were accusing 75 million Americans who voted for Trump of "insurrection" and wanting to "reeducate their children". But we were warned this would happen. It is shocking that they said it was unconstitutional to mandate vaccines and a few months later mandated them, but we were warned that this would be a time of lawlessness.
Matthew 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
Again, we were warned about cancel culture as well. I just heard a man share how he had become a "witch" and a Catholic priest agreed to ordain him as a Catholic Priest if he in return would ordain the Catholic as a witch. He also told of how a Catholic Bishop also made the same agreement.
Luke 19:44 They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”
We were told specifically that we are supposed to recognize the time of the Lord's coming to us. We are told specifically that we will see "the day approaching". Imagine you were the betrothed and your fiance is preparing a "mansion" (a bridal suite) for you. I would bring him lemonade and notice that the shingles were just delivered. Later I'd bring dinner and notice the carpet is being installed. I would see the day approaching. Enough with the "ding bat" jokes and "dumb blond" jokes, I am not a fool. The woman is betrothed, yes she may not know the hour but surely she knows it is coming shortly and to get ready. The house owner may not know what hour the thief is coming but surely he is paying attention to the news, seeing all the crime and knows it is coming. He should have prepared. Surely if you are aware you see them putting people out of the synagogue and you see the apostasy in the church.
Matthew 16:3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.
There are signs of the times that we are supposed to be able to interpret and we will be rebuked if we can't. Weather forecasting is not perfect, and yet we do it every day. We understand that all the signs taken together have significance that can be interpreted.
Revelation 3:3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
If you are oblivious to what the bridegroom is doing do you really love him? You love sleep more than Him? So yes, you may not know the hour, but you should know the time that we are living in and realize the day of the Lord is at hand.
4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
This is a direct contradiction of what this brother taught. You are not supposed to be surprised, you are supposed to be in the light. Imagine the house owner didn't know what hour the thief was coming, but then his dogs started barking and he woke up. Doesn't mean he was surprised. If he had prepared and was ready for him this is not a "surprise".
A servant should be like his master. Luke 9:51 As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem.
The Lord knew when the time approached, so if you are a servant like the master then why wouldn't you? In August Mayor DeBlasio said teachers would be required to have the vaccine by September 27th. I knew this would not be rescinded because this was God's judgement. Within 24 hours I was calling to inquire the process to retire. Others were protesting, complaining, crying, and wringing their hands. They were caught by surprise. I went to rallies as part of the process of shaking the dust off my feet as a testimony against them.
John 16:21 A woman giving birth to a child has pain because her time has come; but when her baby is born she forgets the anguish because of her joy that a child is born into the world
The Lord's second coming is not only likened to a bridegroom coming for His bride, it is also likened to a woman giving birth to a child. The woman does not know the day nor the hour that she will give birth, that doesn't mean that giving birth "is supposed to be a surprise". Surely she knows she is pregnant. During the Revelation 12 sign that appeared on September 23, 2017 Jupiter was in the woman's womb for 42 months before coming out. That was a great sign in the heavens of what was coming.
Luke 12:42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?
This is another analogy given to the Lord's return. The faithful servants are supposed to know the "proper time". Who wants a cook that is surprised when it is lunch time or dinner time? Think about Passover, they were given detailed instructions on what to prepare and when to prepare it so they would all be well fed prior to leaving Egypt.
Luke 14:17 At the time of the banquet he sent his servant to tell those who had been invited, ‘Come, for everything is now ready.’
The Lord's coming is also likened to a great banquet that we have been invited to. If you are the Lord's servant what are you saying? Come, for everything is now ready. It isn't a surprise for you.
Matthew 21:34 When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.
The Lord's coming is also likened to harvest time. Are farmers supposed to be surprised that it is harvest time? A real farmer is walking through the field every day inspecting the crops. A real farmer sees the day approaching. The farmer doesn't know the hour that he will reap but that doesn't mean he is surprised when the harvest does come.
I recently watched a message on Youtube from a preacher who had "88 reasons why we don't know the date or time". He began his message with references from 9 different chapters in the Bible showing that the rapture is Biblical. It was a great introduction that had me really looking forward to the "88 reasons". However, it fizzled after that. The 88 reasons for why we don't know the date and time became one reason inferred from illustration of the rapture as the bridegroom coming for his bride. His point was "it is supposed to be a surprise". That was the most sexist teaching I ever heard.
The bride is "supposed" to be beholding and reflecting the groom. If the two were dancing the groom is leading but the bride is not supposed to be tripping all over his feet, she is supposed to seamlessly follow his lead so the two move as one. I had an experience once, I was at this big training in the Bible, Christians from the entire country were there. Each of us was going to be tested by the trainer, it was "supposed to be" a surprise. There was this very pretty sister that I liked (the daughter of an elder) and after a meeting I was standing in a group waiting on something. I was looking at her from across the room. She knew I was watching her, she made sure I had a very clear view of her, yet her head was buried in her Bible diligently studying it. From that I was able to discern that I was going to be tested that night. So I studied and sure enough I was tested that night. It has always been my experience that women are much more in the know about what is going on. They may pretend to be surprised when the bridegroom comes but that is just so they don't hurt his feelings.
Luke 12:39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into.
Understand what? Is he supposed to know? If I was in the home security business I think I would be tuned in to when thieves come, what they are looking for, and when there is a thief in the neighborhood. This simply says the owner doesn't know what hour he is coming. No doubt he has put locks on the doors and taken other precautions to protect the house. So it should not be a surprise.
John 16:4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them. I did not tell you this from the beginning because I was with you,
This is what the Lord is saying, we have been warned about what to look out for.
John 12:42 Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not openly acknowledge their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue;
It was shocking to people that the Democrats were accusing 75 million Americans who voted for Trump of "insurrection" and wanting to "reeducate their children". But we were warned this would happen. It is shocking that they said it was unconstitutional to mandate vaccines and a few months later mandated them, but we were warned that this would be a time of lawlessness.
Matthew 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
Again, we were warned about cancel culture as well. I just heard a man share how he had become a "witch" and a Catholic priest agreed to ordain him as a Catholic Priest if he in return would ordain the Catholic as a witch. He also told of how a Catholic Bishop also made the same agreement.
Luke 19:44 They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”
We were told specifically that we are supposed to recognize the time of the Lord's coming to us. We are told specifically that we will see "the day approaching". Imagine you were the betrothed and your fiance is preparing a "mansion" (a bridal suite) for you. I would bring him lemonade and notice that the shingles were just delivered. Later I'd bring dinner and notice the carpet is being installed. I would see the day approaching. Enough with the "ding bat" jokes and "dumb blond" jokes, I am not a fool. The woman is betrothed, yes she may not know the hour but surely she knows it is coming shortly and to get ready. The house owner may not know what hour the thief is coming but surely he is paying attention to the news, seeing all the crime and knows it is coming. He should have prepared. Surely if you are aware you see them putting people out of the synagogue and you see the apostasy in the church.
Matthew 16:3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.
There are signs of the times that we are supposed to be able to interpret and we will be rebuked if we can't. Weather forecasting is not perfect, and yet we do it every day. We understand that all the signs taken together have significance that can be interpreted.
Revelation 3:3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
If you are oblivious to what the bridegroom is doing do you really love him? You love sleep more than Him? So yes, you may not know the hour, but you should know the time that we are living in and realize the day of the Lord is at hand.
4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
This is a direct contradiction of what this brother taught. You are not supposed to be surprised, you are supposed to be in the light. Imagine the house owner didn't know what hour the thief was coming, but then his dogs started barking and he woke up. Doesn't mean he was surprised. If he had prepared and was ready for him this is not a "surprise".
A servant should be like his master. Luke 9:51 As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem.
The Lord knew when the time approached, so if you are a servant like the master then why wouldn't you? In August Mayor DeBlasio said teachers would be required to have the vaccine by September 27th. I knew this would not be rescinded because this was God's judgement. Within 24 hours I was calling to inquire the process to retire. Others were protesting, complaining, crying, and wringing their hands. They were caught by surprise. I went to rallies as part of the process of shaking the dust off my feet as a testimony against them.
John 16:21 A woman giving birth to a child has pain because her time has come; but when her baby is born she forgets the anguish because of her joy that a child is born into the world
The Lord's second coming is not only likened to a bridegroom coming for His bride, it is also likened to a woman giving birth to a child. The woman does not know the day nor the hour that she will give birth, that doesn't mean that giving birth "is supposed to be a surprise". Surely she knows she is pregnant. During the Revelation 12 sign that appeared on September 23, 2017 Jupiter was in the woman's womb for 42 months before coming out. That was a great sign in the heavens of what was coming.
Luke 12:42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?
This is another analogy given to the Lord's return. The faithful servants are supposed to know the "proper time". Who wants a cook that is surprised when it is lunch time or dinner time? Think about Passover, they were given detailed instructions on what to prepare and when to prepare it so they would all be well fed prior to leaving Egypt.
Luke 14:17 At the time of the banquet he sent his servant to tell those who had been invited, ‘Come, for everything is now ready.’
The Lord's coming is also likened to a great banquet that we have been invited to. If you are the Lord's servant what are you saying? Come, for everything is now ready. It isn't a surprise for you.
Matthew 21:34 When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.
The Lord's coming is also likened to harvest time. Are farmers supposed to be surprised that it is harvest time? A real farmer is walking through the field every day inspecting the crops. A real farmer sees the day approaching. The farmer doesn't know the hour that he will reap but that doesn't mean he is surprised when the harvest does come.
I don't mean to sound insincere in asking for a source. Iron does sharpen iron and I'm always open to new swords so long as they are forged fr
I didn't mean to seem insincere in my inquiry. Iron does sharpen iron and I'm always ready to cross swords as long as swords are forged by the trustworthy Blacksmith.
I didn't mean to seem insincere in my inquiry. Iron does sharpen iron and I'm always ready to cross swords as long as swords are forged by the trustworthy Blacksmith.
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