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ZNP

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Are the bubbles you are blowing from your gum blocking your eyesight?

Hitler is dead and in hell. Trump is alive and the left is trying to put him in hell.

Who are you acting for? I have never said or thought Trump is an answer to prayer.

Yes the election was stolen.

I think you are simply using the term 'believers' and your supposed 'fear' for their future, as a tool for continuing your rhetoric

not buying it in case you have difficulty interpreting what I said
Mike Lindell said he was an answer to prayer. Since Christians have been praying that Roe V. Wade would be overturned for years it can safely be said that this recent ruling was an answer to prayer and that it never would have happened had Clinton been elected.

Also Christians have been praying that the US would recognize Israel's right to Jerusalem by putting our embassy there, again that would be seen by many as an answer to prayer.
 
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trump did some good things. So did Hitler.
Please list the good things Hitler did.

Did you know he actually instituted anti-animal cruelty laws? Apparently he loved animals. Well I love animals but I would not try to annihilate an entire race of people and millions of others in death camps

oh oh oh! and he also introduced no smoking in public places laws. Gee what a guy. He hated Jews, loved animals and did not want any second hand smoke to come his way.

I really have no idea why he is so vilified. You just can't please some people :mad:

your turn. how else should we praise the little man with the angel of death sitting on his shoulder?
 
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Because you can't let people lie to you, that is why. When someone makes a major claim like he did you have to have proof. Otherwise we just let people slander without any accountability.

If Trump actually did make the claim that He is Jesus incarnate and his cronies are also making this claim, then that is huge, it proves JTB's claim that it is a cult.

On the other hand if he is lying about this it proves that this entire story is made up by those who are trying to destroy Trump, that also is huge.
uh....it was a rhetorical question

really :giggle:
 
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Mike Lindell said he was an answer to prayer. Since Christians have been praying that Roe V. Wade would be overturned for years it can safely be said that this recent ruling was an answer to prayer and that it never would have happened had Clinton been elected.

Also Christians have been praying that the US would recognize Israel's right to Jerusalem by putting our embassy there, again that would be seen by many as an answer to prayer.
Those coins have 2 sides just like all the others

We are seeing some of the other sides of those coins

Not surprising though
 
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If Trump actually did make the claim that He is Jesus incarnate and his cronies are also making this claim, then that is huge, it proves JTB's claim that it is a cult.
That's just babble for 'I ain't got nothing, but this should raise an eyebrow or 2'.

there is no cult. why take jtb's renderings so seriously?

this is a forum....not a hill to die on and honestly, some of the beliefs some people have about scripture are really more disconcerting

jtb just needs to get out more

oh. btw, I saw a dire wolf in my backyard yesterday. it was chasing a unicorn. somebody's gonna get hurt :eek::(
 

ZNP

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That's just babble for 'I ain't got nothing, but this should raise an eyebrow or 2'.

there is no cult. why take jtb's renderings so seriously?

this is a forum....not a hill to die on and honestly, some of the beliefs some people have about scripture are really more disconcerting

jtb just needs to get out more

oh. btw, I saw a dire wolf in my backyard yesterday. it was chasing a unicorn. somebody's gonna get hurt :eek::(
The country is being divided over these lies. Soon it will be Evangelical Christians who are slandered. I will stand up for others being slandered while I still have a chance.
 
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Because you can't let people lie to you, that is why.
an addendum:

try and stop 'em. we are being lied to constantly.

churches are like mazes these days. you start at the door and hopefully might make it home.....but don't expect too much.

we have false prophets spilling their garbage all over the internet and asking for you money to do so

so called Christian tv is vile for the most part and people are running all over the place looking for a word...just like Amos said

it's a zoo and all the cages have been unlocked
 
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The country is being divided over these lies. Soon it will be Evangelical Christians who are slandered. I will stand up for others being slandered while I still have a chance.
you are late.

slander is a good taste in the mouths of many and has been for years

as for division, historically speaking, which recent president presented that as an option and a reason for hating this country?
 

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you are late.

slander is a good taste in the mouths of many and has been for years
Titus 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

JTB has a chance to do the right thing. But if not it reveals his intent and that this was not done in error.
 
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Titus 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
okaaaay

but 3:2 is even better

the KJ uses the word slander

3 Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men.

the NKJ, renders 10 easier to understand

10 Reject a divisive man after the first and second [a]admonition, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned.

then we will be met with 'what is it we are admonishing ie. whose truth? mind you, I believe that truth is not a choice, but has been rendered such by those who are...wait for it....divisive
 

ZNP

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okaaaay

but 3:2 is even better

the KJ uses the word slander

3 Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men.

the NKJ, renders 10 easier to understand

10 Reject a divisive man after the first and second [a]admonition, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned.

then we will be met with 'what is it we are admonishing ie. whose truth? mind you, I believe that truth is not a choice, but has been rendered such by those who are...wait for it....divisive
Slander is evil speaking, but if the motive is to divide the country then he is a divisive man. The reason the country is being divided with class warfare and all this other stuff is that we do not turn away from these ones after the second admonition. If all of America did that then MSNBC, CNN, Facebook and Twitter would have all gone bankrupt a year ago.
 

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We are supposed to be on watch and you seem to be saying we don't need to listen to the Lord's word here to be on watch for His coming?
We all know that "at some point" He'll be back, AND last couple of years have been "inconvenient", and every time THAT happens, the "End Time Prophets" come out of the woodwork with their Doomsday prognostications.

I'll "watch for his coming" but it's been DECADES since I've taken theological "Eschatologists" and "end of the world experts" seriously.

You can if you choose. Personally, I'll take vanilla.
 

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We all know that "at some point" He'll be back, AND last couple of years have been "inconvenient", and every time THAT happens, the "End Time Prophets" come out of the woodwork with their Doomsday prognostications. .
Yes I get it, the pandemic was "inconvenient". By the way when was the last time that happened? I personally do not remember a worldwide shutdown of the economy.

And yes, Israel being reformed into a nation in one day after having been dispersed to the four corners of the earth also is the kind of thing that every time it happens the "End time prophets" come out of the woodwork because of all those prophecies in the Bible that said it would happen.

I get it that on a Jubilee year you are supposed to proclaim that Jerusalem belongs to Israel and they did do that in 1917, 1967, and 2017. So I suppose that has these "End Time Prophets" coming out of the woodwork.

And of course the Revelation 12 sign that was in the sky in 2017, last time we saw that was 2,000 years ago and we won't see it again for a thousand years, but just another inconvenience.

Yes they are testing out RFID chips that can be implanted with a digital bank account and a social credit score that will determine whether or not you can buy or sell, just your run of the mill technological advance, no reason to wake up from your sleep.

Of course it is a lot easier to visualize the Ezekiel 38 war now, that it was a year ago. We are also about to go into a very serious famine, but no reason to wake up, just hit the snooze button.

Every time the Lord told us that we do not know the day or the hour he said that because of that we need to watch. Three examples: a woman giving birth, a farmer deciding when to harvest, and watchmen watching for thieves in the night.
 

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Since "Eschatology" is nothing more that a "Religious term" for "RANK SPECULATION", I'll pass on the "wager".

HEY!! I've still got my copy of "88 reasons the Rapture will be in 1988". It PROVES Biblically, beyond any shadow of doubt that in 1988 we Christians will be OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Surprise!!!!
True, but just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's never going to happen. That's part of the enemy's plan, cry wolf until we stop expecting it.
 

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Do you have verses to support this?
Hmmmm. the entirety of scripture kinda speaks to it.

But if you know of somewhere that says the US IS a player, I'd like to hear that.
 

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Perhaps the remnant was much smaller than imagined
You're on to something there.

Personally, with scripture talking about us be hauled off and killed or turning away from our faith, I expect the number of those actually 'raptured' will be very small.
 

JTB

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what you said:


That's nonsense. If you belong to Jesus you will not miss Him

He certainly will not miss you.
But that's the point. AAAAAALllll them scriptures that say false prophets will draw His elect away from Him. Many who THINK they are with Him will find out they really aren't.
 

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but do not know how to apply

quelle dommage
That depends on whether you think they applied in the past or in the future. Or, as I explained earlier, both.
 

ZNP

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True, but just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's never going to happen. That's part of the enemy's plan, cry wolf until we stop expecting it.
Yes, so true, we are waiting now all week for you to provide the citations to your explosive claim that Trump and his cronies are claiming he is Jesus incarnate!

So, come on man, let's see those citations. (PS people are starting to say you are not credible and simply make up slanderous and evil speakings, I don't want to believe that is true, so help me out here).


JTB still needs to back up this claim

“Jesus is not on the ballot. Yet trump and his cronies insist that He is on the ballot under trumps name.”
Post #51 on the thread Trump 24.

I have asked for the name of the person who has done this and a citation for at least one crony and for Trump. I asked in both post #54 and #56 on that same thread. The only citation JTB has given is Mike Lindell who is a friend of Trump but the citation did not make any claim that Trump is Jesus incarnated, instead the quote had Mike saying that he felt that Trump was chosen by God and that his election was miraculous and an answer to the prayers of the believers. All of that can be strongly supported by the way in which Trump was elected, his moving the embassy to Jerusalem on the year of the Jubilee, and his appointment of 3 pro life judges resulting in Roe V. Wade being overturned, especially when you consider RBG dying one month before the election. Samson chose the jawbone of an ass to defeat the Midianites, doesn't mean the jawbone of an ass is Jesus incarnate or some cult leader.

If JTB's claim is true I want to see it. This would support his other wild tin foil hat claims of Trump being the Antichrist and of Trump being a cult leader. If it is false it is ungodly slander that JTB accuses others of engaging in.