Next Big Debate, Obergefell v. Hodges, Gay Marriage

[GardenofWeeden]

Not debating your and only your opinion. Just jumping off on the idea of leaving a civil right up to the states.

Imagine. If the question of citizen equality were left to the states.....
Slavery would be legal in some states, illegal in others.
Interracial marriage, women's right to vote.

Well, in the matter of slavery it would have to first be decided if blacks qualify as human. State by state.

 

[Dirtman]

Not debating your and only your opinion. Just jumping off on the idea of leaving a civil right up to the states.

Imagine. If the question of citizen equality were left to the states.....
Slavery would be legal in some states, illegal in others.
Interracial marriage, women's right to vote.

Well, in the matter of slavery it would have to first be decided if blacks qualify as human. State by state.

This is a non sequitor. Civil rights are enumerated in the constitution. Slavery was a violation pf that document and it took a war to enforce it.

 

[Bluesproverb]

This is a non sequitor. Civil rights are enumerated in the constitution. Slavery was a violation pf that document and it took a war to enforce it.

Not a non-sequitor in the least.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Clearly it does because it did.

Same reason Roe was overturned because it doesn't give that type authority. It was an unconstitutional decision. Technically states should have ignored it as null and void.

 

[Dirtman]

Not a non-sequitor in the least.

Civil rights protections are not delegated to the states. They are well established with in the Fed for protection.

 

[Bluesproverb]

Civil rights protections are not delegated to the states. They are well established with in the Fed for protection.

I would like to suggest you begin a study about slavery. And then move on after that to the start of slavery in the Colonies. [America.]

It wil l take quite a bit of time however, if you keep at it you'll know all about the practice. And in particular you will know about slavery as it existed on America.

I wish you the best. 😊

 

[Bluesproverb]

Same reason Roe was overturned because it doesn't give that type authority. It was an unconstitutional decision. Technically states should have ignored it as null and void.

Totally different cases.

 

[Dirtman]

I would like to suggest you begin a study about slavery. And then move on after that to the start of slavery in the Colonies. [America.]

It wil l take quite a bit of time however, if you keep at it you'll know all about the practice. And in particular you will know about slavery as it existed on America.

I wish you the best. 😊

Already done.
Sure slavery was before the constitution. However once the constitution was ratified slavery was a stark violation of the document .

 

[Bluesproverb]

Already done.
Sure slavery was before the constitution. However once the constitution was ratified slavery was a stark violation of the document .

As I said, if you study you will know the topic being discussed.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Sodomy was always considered not only a sin, but a crime.
See:
https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/12other/ANTI-PRIDE_MONTH_DAY_01_1500s_Sodomy_Laws.mp4

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Also
1641
Massachusetts Bay Colony

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/1...y_Massachusetts_&_Connecticut_Sodomy_Laws.mp4

 

[Dirtman]

As I said, if you study you will know the topic being discussed.

I'm not sure you know what the subject is.
Marriage was never the estate of the state. It was a authoritarian over reach for them to take authority over marriage. It happened in the early 1900s. If you understood the two estates then you would understand what I am saying.
Civil rights enumerated in the constitution are not rights granted by govco but established as natural rights not to be violated by ... Slavery as it was in the Americas has always been a violation of natural rights.
Govco interjection into marriage is also a violation.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Colonial Laws


https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/1...vated_The_Sodomy_Laws_In_Colonial_America.mp4

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

1700s America

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/12other/ANTI-PRIDE_MONTH_DAY_05_1700s_Sodomy_Laws.mp4

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

For those interesting in American history, this is from the1800s.

See a pattern?
Who can guess what it is?

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/12other/ANTI-PRIDE_MONTH_DAY_06_1800s_Sodomy_Laws.mp4

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

One more minute on the 1900s

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/12other/ANTI-PRIDE_MONTH_DAY_06_1800s_Sodomy_Laws.mp4

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Police would raid the bathhouses where male sodomy took place in the large cities.

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/1...nforcement_Of_Sodomy_Laws_Began_To_Change.mp4

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Now the militant sodomites attack churches that would "dare to read or speak from the Bible and call it a sin."

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/1...AY_12_Hamilton_Square_Baptist_Church_Riot.mp4

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Totally different cases.

Different topics but same abuse of power.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Now the militant sodomites attack churches that would "dare to read or speak from the Bible and call it a sin."

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/1...AY_12_Hamilton_Square_Baptist_Church_Riot.mp4

This never in history goes the way the unbelievers expect. The church grows ever more under persecution.